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Post by ykickamoocow on Jul 1, 2012 8:12:10 GMT -5
Just like the title suggests i thought we could use this thread to talk about what you/we would do if we were JK Rowling and as a result we were able to make changes to the plot of her books. If you were JK Rowling what changes to her books would you have made and for what reason. Here are some of the things i would change
- At the end of 3rd year i would have Hermione go to Remus and successfully argue that it is important for Harry's safety that Harry along with Ron and herself need to learn how to become illegal Animagi as that would give Harry at advantage against him enemies and as a result Remus gives Hermione the notes he has on becoming a Animagus). Throughout the 4th book and most of the 5th there would be a sub plot of the trio learning how to become a Animagus and near the end of the 5th book they are all successful with Harry becoming a panther, Hermione becoming a zebra and Ron becoming a flying ant (so a ant scout).
- In Deathly Hallows when Voldemort gains control of the ministry i would make the Order become similar to the French resistance in WW2. I would have the Order attacking known Death Eaters from the shadows and creating a sense of fear for all Death Eaters who think they have already won the war. I would have Dumbledore near the beginning of the 6th book go to Fred and George and get them to start developing products for the Order (and just the Order) to use. Products that are a bit more dangerous than their standard joke shop items. The order in the 7th book could use these new deadily products to create a relm of fear amoungst all those collaborating with the new ministry (eg Umbridge).
- I would drop Grawp as a character all together as i found him to be rather pointless and he just slowed the story down in OotP.
- I would use Ginny more in PoA and GoF to get the readers more used to her as a character and for us to get a better handle of her personality.
- In Deathly Hallows i would change the Horcrux hunt so it relies less on luck and more on skill on the part of the trio.
- I would make the entire magical universe bigger by having 7 other magical schools in the United Kingdom with Hogwarts being the oldest and also the smallest (in terms of student size).
- I would raise the rating a bit. For instance when Ron swears i would have him swear rather than using tricks to show he swears. I would also raise the sexual content a bit (not a lot) but enough so for instance Harry would notice that Ginny has breasts and that he likes them rather than the book pretending that Harry was only interested in Ginny's hair. I would raise the rating so you would have similar levels of sexual content that you would get in a episode of Frasier.
So those are just some of the things i would change if i was JK Rowling. What do you think and more importantly what would you change if you were the great JK Rowling?
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Post by physicssquid on Jul 1, 2012 11:25:34 GMT -5
1) I too would drop Grawp.
2) I would have had Snape slowly realise that Harry isn't just a clone of James, but that he is instead a person in his own right, and therefore have them becoming more tolerant of each other.
3) I would have had the Malfoys have bigger parts, because Lucius is one of my favourite characters that needed a bit more depth to him.
4) I would have not killed Sirius, Remus, Tonks, Fred or Colin off.
5) I would have added more mentions of other countries with wizarding communities, and each with two schools.
6) I would have either had more Ginny to make a relationship between her and Harry seem more viable, or not had her as anything other than a fangirl and put Harry with Susan Bones or someone else.
7) I might have had Bill or one of the other Weasley boys find out about the Horcruxes and joining the trio on the hunt.
8) I would have either had Dumbledore actually teach Harry obscure spells or Harry studying them on his own in order to be able to fight Voldemort.
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9) I might also have done the same with the Order and made them act like the French Resistance.
That's all I can think of at the moment.
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Post by eskimoRock on Jul 1, 2012 12:06:33 GMT -5
I wouldn't have killed Tonks off, and I would have found out more about what happened after the final battle.
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Post by sherza on Jul 1, 2012 15:48:58 GMT -5
1) I would have treated the abuse and its consequences *realistically*
2) I wouldn't have killed Sirius. Whether or not he would be of any use to Harry aside, Harry had latched onto Sirius emotionally, and keeping Sirius in the picture as Harry's chosen adult-figure-of-choice is more important than ... whatever JKR thought she was doing by killing him off.
3) Harry would have been removed from the Dursleys as of his arrival in the wizarding world, because holy shit.
4) I would have had Dumbledore get his head out of his ass and talk frankly and honestly, with full disclosure, with Harry as of the end of the Tri-Wiz at the latest, preferably sooner than that.
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Post by blackroses77 on Jul 1, 2012 19:31:57 GMT -5
I would have had Pettigrew remain captured in PoA and Sirius freed with Harry then going to live with him for the summers and holidays.
I would have had Neville play a bigger part, it was pointed out somewhere (I don't remember where) that the devil's snare trap in PS seemed to be made for Neville like the flying keys for Harry; chess for Ron; and logic puzzle for Hermione. I don't know if maybe JKR was originally going to have Neville go through the trapdoor with the trio or not but I wish she had.
I would have brought Ginny into the story more so it was more realistic when Harry fell for her in HBP.
I would have had the Dursley's abuse of Harry be discovered by Sirius when he went to live with him and be dealt with thus also leading Severus to reevaluate his opinion of Harry after finding out about the abuse and at least in private treat him better. Which would again have the domino effect of Sev treating him better during occlumency and actually teaching him how to accomplish it meaning Harry would not fall for Voldemort's trap meaning no DoM battle, meaning no dead Sirius.
I would have finished up with the Tom Riddle memories sooner in HBP and then had Dumbledore actually teaching Harry something useful in their lessons.
Physicssquid mentioned about one of the Weasley boys going on the horcrux hunt with the trio. I would LOVE to read a fanfic with either Bill or Charlie going with the trio on the hunt but for the book I kind of like it that it was just the trio together. It was symbolic or poetic or something, I can't think of the right word, that it was just the trio together like always. A culmination of all their adventures together if that makes any sense.
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Post by sherza on Jul 1, 2012 19:39:01 GMT -5
Bll would have been a HUGE help on the horcrux hunt. I'll bet he could have clued them in on how to destroy the things right off the bat. Not to mention having made getting into Gringotts hella easier, possibly even negating the necessity of theft altogether.
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Post by blackroses77 on Jul 1, 2012 19:45:51 GMT -5
Oh and I also would have had Fred, Severus, Remus and Tonks stay alive. Since some deaths needed to occur to keep it realistic I would've kept the death of Moody and Colin and also taken out one or two of the professors (undecided which ones) and Lee Jordan (I like Jordan but he would give the readers a wrench to the heart while allowing me to keep Fred, Sev, Remus and Tonks. Same with Colin, Moody and professors) at the final battle.
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Post by blackroses77 on Jul 1, 2012 19:47:34 GMT -5
Bll would have been a HUGE help on the horcrux hunt. I'll bet he could have clued them in on how to destroy the things right off the bat. Not to mention having made getting into Gringotts hella easier, possibly even negating the necessity of theft altogether. Definitely  although the escape on the dragon was really exciting, I would have hated to lose that scene, especially since I felt so bad for the dragon and was glad when they freed it. |
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Post by sherza on Jul 1, 2012 19:54:55 GMT -5
I would have *somehow* forged at least a grudging alliance between the following people
Fred Weasley
George Weasley
Remus Lupin
Sirius Black
Severus Snape
Because the thought of the mayhem that bunch could wreak if they worked together SCARES THE CRAP OUT OF ME. Seriously! The combined innovative thinking and capabilities of that group ... *shivershudder*. EEP. That's all I'm saying.
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Post by physicssquid on Jul 1, 2012 20:00:13 GMT -5
I would have *somehow* forged at least a grudging alliance between the following people Fred Weasley George Weasley Remus Lupin Sirius Black Severus Snape Because the thought of the mayhem that bunch could wreak if they worked together SCARES THE CRAP OUT OF ME. Seriously! The combined innovative thinking and capabilities of that group ... *shivershudder*. EEP. That's all I'm saying. You are twisted!!! ;D But that lot could come up with some truly gruesome but hilarious ideas. ;D |
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Post by blackroses77 on Jul 1, 2012 20:04:04 GMT -5
I would have *somehow* forged at least a grudging alliance between the following people Fred Weasley George Weasley Remus Lupin Sirius Black Severus Snape Because the thought of the mayhem that bunch could wreak if they worked together SCARES THE CRAP OUT OF ME. Seriously! The combined innovative thinking and capabilities of that group ... *shivershudder*. EEP. That's all I'm saying. O.O wow...that. would. be. awsome! I would love to see that it would probably leave me laughing long after I'd read it. |
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Post by Serena R. Snape on Jul 1, 2012 20:11:56 GMT -5
This is the list if things that I would change if I were Rowling:
1. Drop Grawp
2. Snape and Harry actually getting along with Snape letting go of his grudge towards James and realizing that Harry is also Lily's son
3. Remus, Tonks, Fred, or Snape shouldn't have died.
4. Harry being with Luna instead of Ginny
5. Harry should have at least tried to learn more about the magical world instead of just stumbling around
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Post by sherza on Jul 1, 2012 20:21:36 GMT -5
physicsquid and blackroses
I know, right? I mean, holy hell in a handcart.
Fred and George were inventing new stuff ... some of it dangerous as hell ... as early as the summer before their third year/Harry's second (the comment about explosions in their room being completely normal points to them at least starting to invent at that point). By their fifth year/Harry's Fourth, they've upgraded to completed items like the ton tongue toffee and the extendible ears.
Remus and Sirius were co-inventors of the bloody Map, as well as having come up with who-knows-what spells and other things in the process of their pranking.
Snape ... well, shit. We all saw his sixth year book, didn't we? Numerous spells, on top of his Dark Arts knowledge and his potions expertise.
So ... get the five of them together in the aftermath of the Third Task, when coming up with stuff becomes an urgent priority, and then stand back and watch the mayhem.
The look on Voldie's face when he gets PRANKED into defeat would be *entirely* worth it.
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Post by blackroses77 on Jul 1, 2012 20:33:54 GMT -5
physicsquid and blackroses I know, right? I mean, holy hell in a handcart. Fred and George were inventing new stuff ... some of it dangerous as hell ... as early as the summer before their third year/Harry's second (the comment about explosions in their room being completely normal points to them at least starting to invent at that point). By their fifth year/Harry's Fourth, they've upgraded to completed items like the ton tongue toffee and the extendible ears. Remus and Sirius were co-inventors of the bloody Map, as well as having come up with who-knows-what spells and other things in the process of their pranking. Snape ... well, shit. We all saw his sixth year book, didn't we? Numerous spells, on top of his Dark Arts knowledge and his potions expertise. So ... get the five of them together in the aftermath of the Third Task, when coming up with stuff becomes an urgent priority, and then stand back and watch the mayhem. The look on Voldie's face when he gets PRANKED into defeat would be *entirely* worth it. Pranked into defeat! *snicker* The look on his face...lol. The look on the DEATH EATER's faces *holding my sides laughing* Oh I hope you turn that into a fanfic, I'd read it even if it ISN'T Harrycentric. |
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Post by sherza on Jul 1, 2012 20:43:19 GMT -5
I actually have, to a small degree. Go look at 'Harry Potter and the Fate We Make'. It features at least an alliance between the Marauders and the Twins, as does 'White Knights and Dark Lords'
Families and Familiars, however, will have all five of them working together.
It will be EPIC.
and truly, deeply frightening.
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Post by blackroses77 on Jul 1, 2012 20:46:26 GMT -5
I will definitely go check them out, thanks ;D
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Post by mkatl1 on Jul 2, 2012 1:33:37 GMT -5
Get rid of grawp, like some one said before he is useless , keep sirius alive, make sure umbitch has the most painful death ever (don't like her sorry) , and write a more elaborate epilogue also make many death eaters suffer as possible! (except Lucius) actually like him ) also keep moony and tonks alive and make sure the weasley twins are both alive! I hate how one of them died  |
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 2, 2012 2:02:53 GMT -5
Oh, Lucy can bite the dust for all I am concerned, but otherwise, I agree with you, mkatl1. Then add to that 'clearly punishing the bad guys' not just tell off-page that they got their due in interviews after the fact!
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Post by viralic1 on Jul 2, 2012 2:08:14 GMT -5
I would actually read what I wrote in earlier books, and get rid of dozens of unnecessary plot holes.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 2, 2012 2:10:54 GMT -5
LOL - true, but then we'd probably still wait for OotP ;D
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Post by viralic1 on Jul 2, 2012 2:14:38 GMT -5
True. But I would rather spend a bit of time waiting for a good book, then get a crappy book now.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 2, 2012 2:16:04 GMT -5
Can't disagree with you there. Sadly, it didn't happen. Still wonder why the editor didn't interfere ... but not everyone is as picky as some fans are  |
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Post by viralic1 on Jul 2, 2012 2:17:28 GMT -5
Probably because the editor knew that most people were fanboys/fangirls and would treat the book as gospel, even if it was written like Jo Bekke.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 2, 2012 2:21:35 GMT -5
Ugh - if it were that bad, I'd never have read them. *shudder* For that story, the summary alone was enough to send me running for the hills.
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Post by viralic1 on Jul 2, 2012 2:22:36 GMT -5
Yeah. I've never bothered to read the obvious trollfics like Jo Bekke, My Immortal, or the story by MegaGamer or whatever the handle is.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 2, 2012 2:29:35 GMT -5
I am sure you didn't miss anything by doing that They annoy me so much - either they are trolls, then people should stop parodying them and giving them more importance. Or they aren't trolls and the people really are that bad - then it's horrible to mock them that way. |
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Post by viralic1 on Jul 2, 2012 2:33:47 GMT -5
Agreed. I've got a permanent hand print on my face from all the times I've facepalmed after seeing parodies or commentaries of those stories.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 2, 2012 3:07:41 GMT -5
Never understood the appeal, to be honest. Sure, from the bit I saw in the summaries, the stories are horrible, but how is commenting every bit of them making them any better? What a waste of time. I'd rather read a good story in the meantime, or try to write something better myself.
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Post by viralic1 on Jul 2, 2012 3:19:20 GMT -5
Oh yeah. I especially hate the people who don't try to write decent stories, or don't both to re-read their stories themselves, creating numerous errors. Most of the stories are exactly like that.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 2, 2012 3:43:49 GMT -5
And that's what I hate and what drives me off of otherwise good stories sometimes.
Can you believe that someone I was working with threw a tantrum because I got a beta for the text??
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