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Post by kumainpink on Jul 16, 2012 2:06:51 GMT -5
Hm... that might be a good idea, but not to the extent of the UK magical world. I just don't feel that they'd be as far behind.
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Post by ginnyrules27 on Jul 16, 2012 2:08:58 GMT -5
No, just the US. The Western Hemisphere wouldn't be as 'advanced' as its Eastern companion if you go by the whole 'America not being discovered till 1492'.
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 16, 2012 2:11:56 GMT -5
I was actually referring to the US lol.
The rest of the Americas? I wholly agree! I got a bit mixed up... *snerk*
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Post by ginnyrules27 on Jul 16, 2012 2:16:14 GMT -5
You said UK, sorry.  |
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 16, 2012 2:18:41 GMT -5
*facepalm* What I mean is this:
Most of the Americas will be very behind the times, but I see America as one that embraces being modern and with a bit less prejudice against Muggles and Muggleborns. There would still be prejudice, of course, but it wouldn't be as bad as what we see in the British magical world.
This break on prejudice does not extend to magical creatures, though. They'd be just as exploited in my opinion.
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Post by ginnyrules27 on Jul 16, 2012 2:20:28 GMT -5
So basically like our government today? You've got those who want progress, those who want to cut spending, and then those who want to send us back to 1776.
*nods* I see your point. Would there be racism? Or would the bigotry be only blood related?
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 16, 2012 2:23:44 GMT -5
Yep, pretty much! *grins*
Yes, there would be racism, but as with everything else, it would be how the modern US is today. We see quite a lot of racism in some parts, along with the additions of blood and magic. Those would exist, but it would also be looked down upon.
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Post by ginnyrules27 on Jul 16, 2012 2:30:50 GMT -5
Ah!
But there probably would be differences between the muggle American culture and the Wizarding American culture. For example: the wizards probably wouldn't be having gun debates ever other week, right?
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 16, 2012 2:38:31 GMT -5
Of course not! Why would they give two shits about guns? Some of the issues I see are: Fighting over the rights of magical creatures Magical children being abused by non-magical guardians or vice-versa, (This subject would be more openly talked about in the US, though I'm sure it's a problem that exists everywhere). Debates about finding alternative forms of transportation or going back to the "old ways" because they're more cost effective |
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Post by ginnyrules27 on Jul 16, 2012 2:42:17 GMT -5
What about gay marriage? I can only assume there are homosexual wizards and witches as JK Rowling said that Dumbledore was gay but she never addressed marriage.
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 16, 2012 2:45:32 GMT -5
Ah, how could I forget? *Facepalm* I think while gay marriage might be allowed, it would be looked down upon. The same with abortion, too.
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Post by ginnyrules27 on Jul 16, 2012 2:51:48 GMT -5
Religion? Global Warming? Taxing the 1%?
Has anyone ever told the US we have a lot of issues?
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 16, 2012 2:57:16 GMT -5
*snicker* Yeah, we do.
Religion: I do think Magical America would have their own version of Christianity to follow, or maybe some other religion that they agree on. Or maybe they have their own magical figures from the past that they admire - like Merlin in the British magical world. Either way, I see them being just as crazy about religion.
Global Warming: Probably an issue that disturbs them a bit more than muggles. Though magicals would probably have their own share of problems with this too, they'd naturally blame it on muggles, who started it in the first place.
Taxing the 1 percent: Just as big of a problem. Maybe even made worse because there are a lot less magical people.
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Post by ginnyrules27 on Jul 16, 2012 2:58:40 GMT -5
I wonder where Harry would stand on that issue, seeing as he is part of the Wizarding 1%. Why can I now picture a debate between Malfoy, Ron and Harry on the issue--where Ron and Malfoy are going at it and Harry's the buffer?
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 16, 2012 3:02:19 GMT -5
I can see that too! That would be fun to watch!
Though I think Harry would think it the duty of the rich to give more. He's a duty-bound person, after all, and probably values others over himself.
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Post by ginnyrules27 on Jul 16, 2012 3:04:49 GMT -5
Yeah, I could see that. But seeing as Harry is wealthy, he might be able to see both sides. Or stay silent during the argument and only step out of the shadows when the two (Malfoy and Ron) try to kill one another.
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 16, 2012 3:08:21 GMT -5
Hm... you do raise a good point, Gin. Well played!
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Post by ginnyrules27 on Jul 16, 2012 3:09:26 GMT -5
Why thank you! Darn, why do I now want to write that as a one shot? *tries to think of a reason why Malfoy and Ron would be in the same room together* |
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 16, 2012 3:10:50 GMT -5
Heehee too many ideas, huh? *snicker*
Hell I might do my fic on adult Harry just living in Magical America for a while... that would be fun!
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Post by ginnyrules27 on Jul 16, 2012 3:11:51 GMT -5
That would be fun--thought I think the stupidity would drive Harry insane after a few years.
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 16, 2012 3:14:11 GMT -5
*snicker* Yeah, it would. But I also think he'd take some of the good ideas back with him.
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Post by ginnyrules27 on Jul 16, 2012 3:17:04 GMT -5
We have good ideas? Also, he'd have to spend some time getting over any prejudice he himself might have of Americans--after all, it's not like he got to travel in his youth. *mutters about the cupboard*
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 16, 2012 3:27:27 GMT -5
*joins in the muttering* Yeah...he would.
When I say good ideas, I mean that the American magical world would be more open to things like therapists, psychologists, children's services (even though the system is horribly flawed, the concept itself isn't bad), a larger focus on the rights of magical creatures... things like that. I think Hermione would be more into these sorts of things than Harry, but some of the ideas would seem good to him.
For instance, he might agree that something needs to be done about the possibility of child abuse, which goes pretty much unnoticed by magicals.
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Post by ginnyrules27 on Jul 16, 2012 3:28:50 GMT -5
Ah yes, quite right.
Why can I now picture Hermione forcing Harry into therapy and/or a forced vacation into the States?
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 16, 2012 3:29:21 GMT -5
Because it's such a Hermione thing to do...
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Post by ginnyrules27 on Jul 16, 2012 3:33:01 GMT -5
Is it odd that Harry never once had therapy? Oh, you just had your teacher fall into pieces because you touched him? 10 points to your house and now go back to your abusive relations.
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 16, 2012 3:37:40 GMT -5
I do think it's odd that Harry never had therapy, or any kind of help. *winces* That's a rather thing to think about.
I wondered what would happen if Harry became a teacher and had a knee-jerk reaction in class one day. Or what if that happened at work? *shivers*
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Post by ginnyrules27 on Jul 16, 2012 3:40:05 GMT -5
How did that boy not develop PTSD? One good hit by Dudley might have sent Harry into shock around second or third year.
Ooh! Poor whoever was in his way.
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 16, 2012 3:53:29 GMT -5
You know... this gives me an idea. I badly want to write a fic where Harry does show signs of PTSD. Dudley sees this and is actually scared for his cousin a little. From there, he starts to pity Harry and comes to realize that maybe there are worse things in life than being called fat. I'm working on that other idea, by the way. |
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Post by ginnyrules27 on Jul 16, 2012 3:57:12 GMT -5
Idea stealer!
I was going to use the idea of Harry having signs of PTSD for the Dursleys shamed challenge aka the thread we're writing in now, as the reading would be during the sixth year so it'd be after the DoM/Sirius.
..actually, we can both use the idea. Poor Dudley, now I want to hug him being scared for his cousin like that.
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