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Post by Kitty279 on Jun 30, 2012 0:50:52 GMT -5
Lol see I find guys with a little longer hair attractive. I don't really like guys with short hair. I also like scruffy guys. LOL - that explains why you like Sirius
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Post by basketsarah120 on Jun 30, 2012 0:53:45 GMT -5
But I prefer blondes. Haha, if Lucius wasn't such a bastard I would to attractive to that type of person.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jun 30, 2012 8:06:33 GMT -5
Oh, good, one competition less But admittedly, Lucy can't hold a candle to Sirius.
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Post by melodypottersnape on Jun 30, 2012 8:41:06 GMT -5
no one can compete with Aragorn of lord of the Rings. Who is actually how I imagined Sirius to look.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jun 30, 2012 9:07:44 GMT -5
*grin* Viggo fan there? Yeah, he made a great Aragorn, though I have to admit, I liked him better as a Ranger, not so much clean and tidied up as the High King
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Post by G. Novella on Jun 30, 2012 9:15:09 GMT -5
As long as scruffy doesn't carry over in unhygienic, it can be very cute
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Post by Kitty279 on Jun 30, 2012 10:50:10 GMT -5
But how do you avoid unhygienic when you are in the wilds for months? Aragorn looked always good, no matter how dirty he was, though
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Post by Miss Wings on Jul 5, 2012 7:38:12 GMT -5
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Post by ykickamoocow on Jul 5, 2012 8:16:40 GMT -5
I read the summary and i cringed/laughed at it. Its amazing how far Harry/Hermione shippers will go to prove that Harry and Hermione are meant to be.
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Post by Miss Wings on Jul 5, 2012 14:29:06 GMT -5
it wasn't that i what i was trying to point out but the few words Arthur says. GInny wouldn't have resorted to Amortentia if it wasn't for Molly telling her and Hermione about it..
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Post by nightstar on Jul 7, 2012 18:42:34 GMT -5
On the point of Arthur not advancing in the Ministry, I'm pretty sure it said in one of the books (not sure which, but it might have been the Chamber of Secrets) that he was offered promotions and higher, better paid positions in other departments, but he turned them down because he loved what he was doing too much. Sorry, I know the conversation's kinda moved on now but I just got here... I remember reading this about Arthur. I think it might have been cause for some of the contention and resentment between Molly and him. I also agree about the part of the above post, Molly certainly romanticized using love potions on Arthur to win him. I don't think Ginny would have gotten Harry any other way. I'm not a huge Ginny/Harry fan.
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Post by Silvertongue on Jul 7, 2012 18:47:56 GMT -5
I can certainly agree with that. I definitely remember reading that about Arthur. In some ways, that makes me respect him because he's obviously perfectly happy doing something he loves and knows not many other people would 'deign' to do, but in other ways it doesn't inspire respect as he could be getting more money for his family, even if he's not happy in that job. He knows his family struggles with money and probably get bullied a bit for it, he should make every effort to ensure their happiness. I'm a bit torn where this is concerned.
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Post by Kaiserin on Jul 7, 2012 18:58:14 GMT -5
I know it is hard not to like him. We are not told when he is offered these promotions, they might have been offered before his family began to struggle.
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 7, 2012 18:58:57 GMT -5
Same here, Silver. I love him, he's a good man. Just not big on common sense, if you ask me.
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Post by nightstar on Jul 7, 2012 19:09:49 GMT -5
I have read a fanfic somewhere that had a manipulitive Dumbledore who set it up for keeping Arthur with lower pay. The position probably was meant to pay more in an earlier time and yet the Ministry probably slowly lowered the wages and even though Arthur was offered other positions he wanted to keep doing what he loved. It could have been a way to keep the Weasleys in a position where they would look up to Dumbledore for allowing their children to attend Hogwarts for reduced cost or on scholership.
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 7, 2012 19:11:03 GMT -5
Ah, the joys of Manipulative Dumbles... it's kinda fun to write him that way...
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Post by sherza on Jul 7, 2012 19:29:18 GMT -5
Ah, the joys of Manipulative Dumbles... it's kinda fun to write him that way... Not to mention easy. You barely even have to try!
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 7, 2012 20:14:47 GMT -5
It's kind of sad when it's that easy, isn't it? lol
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Post by readingwizard4 on Jul 7, 2012 20:14:51 GMT -5
On the point of Arthur not advancing in the Ministry, I'm pretty sure it said in one of the books (not sure which, but it might have been the Chamber of Secrets) that he was offered promotions and higher, better paid positions in other departments, but he turned them down because he loved what he was doing too much. Sorry, I know the conversation's kinda moved on now but I just got here... I remember reading this about Arthur. I think it might have been cause for some of the contention and resentment between Molly and him. I also agree about the part of the above post, Molly certainly romanticized using love potions on Arthur to win him. I don't think Ginny would have gotten Harry any other way. I'm not a huge Ginny/Harry fan. Where did Molly say she used a love potion on Arthur? In POA chapter the Dementor it says she used it but not on who. No mention of pointing at Arthur or anything. I brought this point up earlier on another thread but no one gave a quote proving Molly used it on Arthur. So prove it
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Post by sherza on Jul 7, 2012 20:29:16 GMT -5
Really, who else would she have used it on, and Arthur still be anywhere near her?
I mean, really ... if I knew someone did that kind of shit? I would not touch them with a thousand foot pole. So the only explanations of the whole thing I can come up with are the ones I mentioned elsewhere.
1) Molly used the love potion as revenge against someone who forced themself on someone else
2) She used it on Arthur, who only discovered the fact after the marriage, at which point it was too late to change things. All heck broke loose but they managed to settle things between them eventually.
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 7, 2012 20:31:51 GMT -5
The second theory is rather interesting, Shezra... I love how your mind works!
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Post by sherza on Jul 7, 2012 21:05:36 GMT -5
Heh.
I'll admit those are not the only possible solutions, but they're the only ones I'm able to stomach. The idea that she potioned someone for shits and giggles, whether it was Arthur or not, and he found out before the marriage and was still willing to marry her ... completely boggles my mind.
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Post by ykickamoocow on Jul 7, 2012 21:13:52 GMT -5
Except Voldemort is sort of proof that a child conceived when one party is under the influence of a love potion often goes badly. Non of the Weasley children are psychopaths nor are the children that Ginny and Harry had (though James does seem like a arse).
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 7, 2012 21:23:23 GMT -5
I don't buy the bullshit that it was the love potion that did it. Not one bit. Tom just had a superiority complex of some sort that got out of hand as he got older.
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 7, 2012 21:23:49 GMT -5
He's still an evil bastard, though.
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Post by ykickamoocow on Jul 7, 2012 21:36:16 GMT -5
I don't buy the bullshit that it was the love potion that did it. Not one bit. Tom just had a superiority complex of some sort that got out of hand as he got older. You don't believe that the use of a love potion can cause the child to not be able to feel love at all which is a theory that makes sense in the context of JKR's writing and yet you do believe that Molly would use a love potion to get and keep Arthur and Ginny would use one on Harry as well?
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 7, 2012 21:39:38 GMT -5
No, I don't believe that theory at all. The potion was just a substance, after all. I doubt it truly had an effect on Tom as a baby. That was pure and utter bullshit. Dumbledore was just hiding his own faults by lying. After all, he dubbed Tom evil from day one, and never once tried to help him "see the light" or "find the good in him". When he discovered Tom's origins, he used it to further excuse himself.
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Post by ginnyrules27 on Jul 7, 2012 21:43:02 GMT -5
I see that I've commented on this thread and the first thing I think of is: I have thoughts on this topic? Odd. I don't remember ever commenting.
Anywho, I don't really like Molly Weasley but she did produce my favorite Weasley of all time (Fred) and therefore, STOP BADMOUTHING HER PEOPLE!
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Post by sherza on Jul 7, 2012 21:44:12 GMT -5
And I never said any of the Weasley kids were conceived under the influence of the love potion. I don't know when Arthur and Molly married, but I doubt they had Bill nine months later, so there'd be a gap of time for the potioning to be discovered, stopped, and the emotional fallout to be dealt with.
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 7, 2012 21:44:18 GMT -5
I don't like Molly myself, because she mollycoddles too much and shows blatant favoritism of Percy.
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