What do you think of Molly Weasley?

[codygotkilld]

Jun 14, 2012 3:59:46 GMT -5 ShotgunWilly said:

The Ministry scene in DH is the only time in the books that Harry calls Arthur by his first name. There's some trivia for you.

Dude...I just now noticed that.

[Kitty279]

The thing on the train station now makes me wonder since I've read it on here if she said that on purpose.

Ugh. Haven't thought of that before, but I wouldn't put it past her.

Sirius did so much Harry. He risked his freedom for Harry and what has Molly done? Nothing. Makes you wonder what she did at home all those years since the kids were at school?

[sarcasm]Plotting how to get her little Princes her BWL-knight in shining armour?[/sarcasm]

The twins saying he was starved and Molly brushing them off and then going on about how he is so thin is mind-boggling to me. Makes no sense. How can she not see? And then the 7 helpings of food. How is that good for him?

Molly's one of these people who live by the motto that it can't be if it shouldn't be, IMO. As for the 7 helpings, that's not healthy for ANY child, no matter how hungry. But sometimes I think as cooking is the only thing she can do, she's believing that stuffing the kids with food is the only cure for everything. I am sure, if Harry was her child and he'd returned after all the traumatic experiences at the ends of his school years, she'd have forced 10 helpings per meal into him, smothered him with kisses and told him he's too young to talk about it. That's in her eyes the ideal way to treat a trauma.

Bill and Charlie left England. That should mean something. As far as we know they didn't owl or floo. They left and never kept in contact. Molly going on about Charlie's hair was ridicoulous. Let it go.

And about Bill's hair and earring. Not respectable enough, they need to impress the Ministry, remember?

If the Weasleys were so poor as Malfoy claims how where they able to go on trips Christmas 1st year, Christmas 2nd year and summer before 3rd year? A trip to Romania and 2 trips to Egypt? or vice-versa. Wouldn't it have been cheaper for Bill and Charlie to come home instead of going to them?

Good question. Andremember, she couldn't afford the few galleons to get Ron a proper wand, but bought robes and owl for Percy. For that, she had money. And to get some travelling in herself.

The situation in OOTP is appalling. How can Molly believe that her kids were going to be okay if she coddled them?

She reacted like Fudge. Denying a problem is making said problem go away, right?

Am I the only one who is surprised Ron knew what the Imperius curse was? Molly would have had a fit if she knew.

Ha. Or, worse, that her darling baby boy was put under it by a teacher, sanctioned by God Dumbledore?

[Miss Wings]

I agree with the food part. I was never abused or anything like that and I'm not anorexic but I do have a low immune system which causes me to get ill all the time. This then puts me off food and when I do eventually eat something it makes me sick again because my stomach's shrank.

I also live in a family full or nurses, doctors etc and they have pointed out to me where J.K went wrong. No ones would be able to eat a full meal such as the 1 Molly made without being really ill!

[fino]

I can understand most of Molly's actions, but there's one thing I can't understand at all. Why did she have to say those awful things to Sirius when Harry was present?

Well I'm not saying that it's right for her to say that when Harry was not around, but at least, at least wait after Harry left alright? Besides hurting Sirius, what she did would also harm Sirius and Harry's relationship. She weakened Sirius's authority by accusing him this and that while ironically, what Sirius did is just the opposite. He never told the twins and other teenagers what happened because "That’s your parents’ decision. " He gave Molly full respect in this parent/guardian thing, and see the way she returned it.

[Miss Wings]

hell she didn't even apologize to Harry when Sirius died or offer him comfort..

[kumainpink]

Which is yet another tally mark against her. >=0

[dracosfairmaiden]

I agree. She totally went overboard with the crack against Sirius being in Azkaban instead of helping Harry. It's one thing if she said it in private but to say it in front of everyone? That's crossing the line.

I also didn't like her treatment of Fleur. I always felt bad for Fleur because of her being part veela. I wonder what she was thinking in HBP while staying with the Weasleys. She probably met the first guy who likes her for her and his mother and sister keeps arguing that she isn't good enough for him. Then they get everyone else to agree with them. That's crossing the line.

[kumainpink]

That's way beyond crossing the line... it's just awful. I'm glad Fleur didn't let it phase her too much.

[Kitty279]

With the way Molly was behaving, I'd probably have thrown her out of the house in Sirius' place.

Agree about Fleur, that was way beyond the pale. My only explanation would be that Molly was much more prejudiced than she wanted people to believe a,d didn't want a part-veela, and that she believed that Fleur had used her veela powers to ensnare her precious son. And of course, Hermione - who looks up to Molly - and Ginny had to go along with it. I was disappointed when Harry picked up on the 'Phlegm' name - in that case, I had really expected better of him.

[kumainpink]

I expected better of him too, but I think he just wanted to feel apart of the family. Which is also the only reason I can see him marrying Ginny... >.<

[Kitty279]

True. Somehow I have that image of Molly throwing a tantrum of epic proportions when he's saying he doesn't want to marry her little princess ...

[kumainpink]

I know, right? I kind of wish Harry had married someone else instead... just so Molly could be a bitch and show her true colors.

[OculisCaeruleis]

I wonder what Molly would say if Harry preferred men?
On one hand, Dumbledore was gay, but on the other, he wouldn't want to marry or be with Ginny.
Maybe she'd try to marry him off to one of her sons o.O

[kumainpink]

o.O

Molly: Harry, you should marry Percy! He would be a good, supportive husband.

Harry: ....Um, how about no?

[Miss Wings]

Molly: Well then Ginny will just have to get a sex change..

Ginny: Hell no!Not happening!

[ginnyrules27]

Molly: Then what about Charlie? He's young, he's single....

Charlie: O.o, no offense Harry, but you're a little too young for me.

Harry: None taken Charlie. You're a little too obsessed with dragons and I've had enough of those in my life.

[kumainpink]

Jun 14, 2012 10:09:12 GMT -5 Miss Wings said:

Molly: Well then Ginny will just have to get a sex change..

Ginny: Hell no!Not happening!

Hahahaha! That's pure win!

[Miss Wings]

I aim to please..

[fino]

Oh don't become too harsh. After all she did have good intention.

[sailorsea]

I'm kinda neutral about Molly... as many of us seem to be.
A.) I was definitely being driven crazy by her in OotP and DH because of her insistence to keep all the kids, even those who aren't hers out of the loop and "safe". Molly and Dumbledore seemed to have the same ideas n OotP with valuing Harrry's happiness over the need of telling him things. Especially since the books are from Harry's p.o.v. it is easier for us to get annoyed with her for being frankly, quite interfering.

B.) I think that Molly's personality is just another thing that separates the weasleys from the malfoys. I would say that Molly wears the "pants" in her and Arthur's relationship while most of the time, except for the end of DH, Lucius tends to be the head of the malfoy family.

C.) I think that Molly has got her heart in the right place overall but she does not go about showing her affection in the right way most of the time. I liked how she comforted Harry after the graveyard scene in GoF but she does not seem to realize that yelling at her children does not really work. I think she kind of realized that (just for the time being) after the events at the quidditch world cup when she apologized to Fred and George but she still didn't understand Fred and George's dream.

D.) I think that Molly had a specific dream for her children by the time they were able to walk. I think that because of their money status she wants all of her kids to have respectable well-paying jobs so that they can have more money for themselves and their future families.
Either way I would say that I tolerate her... Molly's overbearing ways annoy me to no end but I like her overall care of her kids

[melodypottersnape]

the chinapps22 story is my favorite because it addresses Molly's faults. I personally hope she does a fifth book so her main blubber can be corrected. it shows her love and care but addresses her overbearing nature and her "let give a kid tons of food to deal with trauma."

[G. Novella]

I think Molly's a brave, strong-willed, independent, and wonderful mother. But she has her flaws.

She's got the right intentions, but she gets them across in a rather brash manner. I think it stems from the fact that she's not well-educated socially and politically.

She does belittle the twins, but it's not completely strange. I mean, the twins screwed around all the way up until their OWL years, showed no ambition, and then say they wanted to open a joke shop? Which is ambitious for two kids who come from a poor family, have no job experience, and who's grades are poor. I can easily see why she'd think they're not serious and didn't support them. And the twins never sat her and Arthur down and explained how they were going to do it, they just kept making prank products. I think if they'd shown some kind of planning, some kind of thought process, and some kind of concrete proof like their earnings to Molly then she'd have been more supportive.

Molly was wrong, and it's easy to say she was the adult in the situation and should have been supportive, but no adult is perfect, if they were, our society would run smoothly and we'd be boring robots. However, the twins should have said, look mum, this is the plan, we have goals, we know where we're going, and what we want to do to get the joke shop. Instead they just kept churning out prank products and arguing with her. She knew they had talents, and just wanted them to use it better. I highly doubt she was un-supportive of Bill when he proved how he was going to become a Curse Breaker, and while the idea of Charlie being a dragon tamer must have scared the hell out of her, I can't see her as stopping him if he was working for it and showing an early on obsession for the dragons and learning about it. It's easier to see kids being successful in jobs that actually exist and they're training for then when they want to be artists and inventors.

Her need to keep her kids safe was just any thing a mother wants. Yes she should have realized that they needed to know, but in some ways, this was her first experience in war too. She'd spent the first war churning out babies and starting a family, while being a kid just herself, I mean, she was only eighteen/nineteen when she got married.

And parents work differently. Some realize that comparing their children isn't a smart idea, but most compare. It's easy to tell a younger child, look, the older one is being good, don't you want to be like them? Especially if they tend to idolize an older sibling, which we can see from Ron's somewhat idealization of Bill and Charlie. And once the method starts to fail, and the kids outgrow their idol phase, parents tend to get thrown for a loop because the old method failed. It frustrates a parent and the struggle to find a new way to reinforce a better image.

I totally agree that from her own poverty experience, that she probably wanted her kids to get better jobs that she didn't realize that she was pushing them away.

Overall, I do like Molly a lot, I won't say she's perfect, but she was what life made her. She was a pretty good mother, and it's easy to blame her for everything, but life's never easy, now is it?

[IceBlueRose]

Gotta agree on expecting more from Harry on picking up on the Phlegm name though I was glad that he, at least, corrected himself halfway through saying it. (If I'm remembering right. Shoot, I should double check that but I could swear he switched to Fleur halfway through. Or was that fic?)

LMAO at the way that conversation would go if Harry came out of the closet. Next she'd probably suggest Charlie since he's not married off and Harry would be all "Live in Romania? Away from you guys? While playing with dragons? Sure!" and then he and Charlie would change their address and not tell anyone. It'd make for peaceful days.

[melodypottersnape]

To me Molly's character got thrown to the dogs after gof

[OculisCaeruleis]

Jun 14, 2012 18:06:18 GMT -5 G. Novella said:

She does belittle the twins, but it's not completely strange. I mean, the twins screwed around all the way up until their OWL years, showed no ambition, and then say they wanted to open a joke shop? Which is ambitious for two kids who come from a poor family, have no job experience, and who's grades are poor. I can easily see why she'd think they're not serious and didn't support them. And the twins never sat her and Arthur down and explained how they were going to do it, they just kept making prank products. I think if they'd shown some kind of planning, some kind of thought process, and some kind of concrete proof like their earnings to Molly then she'd have been more supportive.

Molly was wrong, and it's easy to say she was the adult in the situation and should have been supportive, but no adult is perfect, if they were, our society would run smoothly and we'd be boring robots. However, the twins should have said, look mum, this is the plan, we have goals, we know where we're going, and what we want to do to get the joke shop. Instead they just kept churning out prank products and arguing with her. She knew they had talents, and just wanted them to use it better.

Didn't she find order forms for the twins' products at the start of GoF though?
If I remember correctly, she threw them all out and destroyed all the products Fred and George had spent months working on.

I agree that maybe Fred and George should have sat their parents down and explained the situation, but Molly had already displayed her dissaproval of their idea to the point of ruining all their progress so far - they were probably afraid that attempts to show her the products would only result in the destruction of all their hard work again and a major arguement, especially after Percy walked out in OotP.

[Silvertongue]

Jun 15, 2012 10:07:00 GMT -5 OculisCaeruleis said:

Jun 14, 2012 18:06:18 GMT -5 G. Novella said:

She does belittle the twins, but it's not completely strange. I mean, the twins screwed around all the way up until their OWL years, showed no ambition, and then say they wanted to open a joke shop? Which is ambitious for two kids who come from a poor family, have no job experience, and who's grades are poor. I can easily see why she'd think they're not serious and didn't support them. And the twins never sat her and Arthur down and explained how they were going to do it, they just kept making prank products. I think if they'd shown some kind of planning, some kind of thought process, and some kind of concrete proof like their earnings to Molly then she'd have been more supportive.

Molly was wrong, and it's easy to say she was the adult in the situation and should have been supportive, but no adult is perfect, if they were, our society would run smoothly and we'd be boring robots. However, the twins should have said, look mum, this is the plan, we have goals, we know where we're going, and what we want to do to get the joke shop. Instead they just kept churning out prank products and arguing with her. She knew they had talents, and just wanted them to use it better.

Didn't she find order forms for the twins' products at the start of GoF though?
If I remember correctly, she threw them all out and destroyed all the products Fred and George had spent months working on.

I agree that maybe Fred and George should have sat their parents down and explained the situation, but Molly had already displayed her dissaproval of their idea to the point of ruining all their progress so far - they were probably afraid that attempts to show her the products would only result in the destruction of all their hard work again and a major arguement, especially after Percy walked out in OotP.

The point about her destroying all their hard work makes me think of what fanfiction is doing... and makes me even angrier at her!

[Kitty279]

Yes, I could imagine that. Though her insistence that they don't start a joke shop, but go to the Ministry is getting ridiculous in OotP. After she found out how Fudge tried to railroad Harry into being expelled *and* how he kept threatening everyone who was in Dumbledore's camp, it makes no sense whatsoever to force any of her children into the Ministry any longer. Molly should have realised by that time that this isn't a good career, save you're such a sycophant like Percy was.

In any case, she doesn't struck me as the most reasonable sort. When she made her mind up about something, she wasn't ready to change it that easily again, or at least that is how it seems to me. And she was determined that a joke shop was a waste of time and money. Add to that her extremely short fuse, and I can't really see her listening, either.

Besides, I don't think she would have reacted well to learn that Harry gave the twins the Triwizard winnings. At least without Harry there to back them up, she'd insisted that they forced him to give the money to them, would have demanded that they return it, possibly even tried to punish them. Another row would have been inevitable then, I fear.

[kumainpink]

Jun 15, 2012 11:10:15 GMT -5 Silvertongue said:

The point about her destroying all their hard work makes me think of what fanfiction is doing... and makes me even angrier at her!

My sentiments exactly, Silver!

[Silvertongue]

I would LOVE for her to have found that out in canon, at the same time as she found out that he was in a homosexual relationship with Charlie.

[kumainpink]

That would be made of win, Silver. Honestly and truly!

Damn it! These topics keep giving me ideas!