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Post by blackroses77 on Jul 7, 2012 21:07:58 GMT -5
Squicks for me are twincest or any kind of incest.
Graphic gore and torture.
Rape when it is written in graphic detail.
Anything written with gods/goddess or making the characters into angels or devils gets the back button immediately as I find it offensive and goes against my religious beliefs. Same for when stories change the fictional HP magic into wicca or paganism.
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Post by readingdeatheater on Jul 12, 2012 15:34:43 GMT -5
The things that really get me on fanfiction and i will not read are... Graphic Rape Dumbleodre and anyone (Except Minerva) Dobby-anyone Female Harry. i don't know why i can't stand girl harry i just can't plus some people don't put warnings about that up.
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Post by Silenia on Jul 12, 2012 15:54:51 GMT -5
EDIT: looks like something went wrong. -sigh- I didn't intend to post a blank post, believe me. ---- I have very few real squicks when it comes to Harry Potter fanfiction (or other fanfiction, or fiction in general). What I list here is more of a matter of 'not interested' or 'try to avoid it' than 'OUCH, NOW GIMME SOME BRAINBLEACH'. Result of having seen just about anything and everything in fiction, especially Harry Potter fanfiction.
For those reading this post, might be best to skip over this post quickly if you don't have some brainbleach ready, though.
- Neville and Bellatrix madly in love with each other. 'nuff said. (Not that I'm fond of non-consentual Neville/Bellatrix, but at least I can see Bellatrix doing such a thing. Neville... not so much, unless he snaps. Which is at least sort-of-possible, considering what the Lestranges have done to his parents.) - Rape-played-for-laughs (Big no-no) - Anyone realizing mid-rape that this -is- actually what they wanted after all, or realizing that they're madly in love with the one raping them. - Love-Potion-Played-For-Laughs (well, unless the 'laughs' is from how ridiculously a love potion plot failed) - Any character/Buckbeak-the-Hippogriff (Yes, this exists. Yes, I have been unfortunate enough to come across it) - Dobby (or any other house-elf)/Anyone that's not a fellow house-elf. Or even worse, Dobby raping anyone. (And yes, this exists too. And yes, I have been unfortunate enough to come across this one too) - Harry/Mary Sue - Harry/Self-Insert Original "Character"
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Post by thepurplepen on Jul 13, 2012 8:18:57 GMT -5
Hmm, my preferences in HP fanfiction can actually get quite confusing.
I'll read Slash as long as it doesn't have a sexual element. Except in the case of Dumbledore/ Grindalwald, because I adore that pairing. I think the fact it ended so tragically makes me attracted to reading it. Yeah, I'm weird.
However, I have no problems with sexual FemSlash.
I refuse to read Fred/George twincest. But I once read a Parvati/Padma fic which was really quite beautiful. And cousincest in a no, especially with the NextGen.
Although I do love Cersei/Jaime it's not HP, so it's neither here nor there.
I can take extreme gore, violence or rape as long as they have a point.
PWPs are a guilty pleasure of mine but aside from those good plots and well rounded characters are a must.
Is it odd that bad grammar and an inability to write a good story offends me and unnerves me more than any of the above?
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Post by 19811945 on Jul 13, 2012 8:58:40 GMT -5
Dumbledore/Voldie as a pairing. Just no. No. NO. NOOOOOOOO! I most certainly need the mind bleach for. Dumbledore or anyone for that matter. Read www.fanfiction.net/s/7117395/1/ as it as Dumbledore/Minnie implied.
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Post by Silenia on Jul 13, 2012 12:41:53 GMT -5
[...] Is it odd that bad grammar and an inability to write a good story offends me and unnerves me more than any of the above? Not to me, no. Probably because a fic that holds elements you don't like can still be a well-written story in its own way, whereas a badly written story (-cough- read: plotholes strung together with OOc-characters, Mary Sues, unnecessary OCs and.............. ............. ......... "suspense") or one so littered with grammatical errors and spelling mistakes that you need to spend a minute or more to unravel a single sentence simply won't be nice to read AT ALL - no matter how many pairings/situations/etc. you love are in it.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 13, 2012 12:54:01 GMT -5
I agree with Silenia. An element I don't like in a fic is one thing, I can ignore it depending on what it is or how prominent it is. But a story where I have to re-re-reread every other sentence to decipher what the author meant is just not worth the bother. I want to read the story, not guess it!
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Post by viralic1 on Jul 13, 2012 13:01:34 GMT -5
I agree with Silenia. An element I don't like in a fic is one thing, I can ignore it depending on what it is or how prominent it is. But a story where I have to re-re-reread every other sentence to decipher what the author meant is just not worth the bother. I want to read the story, not guess it! Agreed. The thing that offends me the most in this kind of situation is when the author basically says "Who cares my story sucks" and doesn't edit, or refuses to take constructive criticism.
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Post by Silenia on Jul 13, 2012 13:05:54 GMT -5
I agree with Silenia. An element I don't like in a fic is one thing, I can ignore it depending on what it is or how prominent it is. But a story where I have to re-re-reread every other sentence to decipher what the author meant is just not worth the bother. I want to read the story, not guess it! Agreed. The thing that offends me the most in this kind of situation is when the author basically says "Who cares my story sucks" and doesn't edit, or refuses to take constructive criticism. Ugh, I agree with you there. Even worse when these people ask for reviews constantly at the same time.
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Post by viralic1 on Jul 13, 2012 13:07:29 GMT -5
Agreed. The thing that offends me the most in this kind of situation is when the author basically says "Who cares my story sucks" and doesn't edit, or refuses to take constructive criticism. Ugh, I agree with you there. Even worse when these people ask for reviews constantly at the same time. Yeah, reviews are pretty overrated because it just says "Good job" about 95% of the time, the other 4% is someone asking a question that was answered in the chapter, and the 1% is someone flaming you.
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Post by Silenia on Jul 13, 2012 13:12:22 GMT -5
Ugh, I agree with you there. Even worse when these people ask for reviews constantly at the same time. Yeah, reviews are pretty overrated because it just says "Good job" about 95% of the time, the other 4% is someone asking a question that was answered in the chapter, and the 1% is someone flaming you. Depends a little on where you post your stuff, but yes, that tends to be the case most of the time. I get some constructive criticism once in a while, too - probably because I have at several places stated rather clearly that I am aware of the difference between that and a flame and that I'm not exactly easily hurt over reviews either. In fact, I welcome constructive criticism, so perhaps that's why I get at least something else than "good job", "what do you mean with...?" and "flame-flamedy-flame". Not that I really mind the latter that much. Got a fairly thick skin, as to say. Honestly, I consider most flames to be humorous. People bashing you over a single spelling mistake you made when they manage to cram more than a dozen into their three-sentences-long "review". XD
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Post by viralic1 on Jul 13, 2012 13:16:01 GMT -5
I got a flame about stuff that didn't even make sense, and the guy was trying to be kind when telling me to "Take this piece of shit down and rewrite it where everything is better, than maybe it will be readable."
He hasn't written a story on this site, or any other, and he was complaining about how I wasn't being original, and my story sucked, etc.
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Post by Silenia on Jul 13, 2012 13:19:38 GMT -5
Some flamers are just plain trolls. Others are butthurt because the person they're flaming gets more/better reviews than they do. Or because the person they're flaming writes better than they do. Or they're the kind of angry-at-the-whole-world person. There probably are as many "reasons" as there are flamers, but usually the reasons make as little sense as the flames themselves.
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Post by viralic1 on Jul 13, 2012 13:21:02 GMT -5
I ignored him, except for the part where I sent him a screenshot of my traffic, which was 40K hits a month, and a couple hundred favorites and such. I put a trollface at the bottom, and added Umad Bro to it.
I felt I took the mature way out lol.
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Post by Silenia on Jul 13, 2012 13:23:34 GMT -5
Not sure if I'd call it the "mature" way out, but what you did is about at the highest level of maturity they can still understand, so you did well.
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Post by viralic1 on Jul 13, 2012 13:25:03 GMT -5
My first thought was just to curse him out, so that was pretty much the mature way.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 13, 2012 13:25:53 GMT -5
LOL - now that's a way to deal with flamers!
But I noticed, too, that the worst flamers are mostly the ones who can't spell themselves. How am I supposed to take someone seriously who complains about a story, but can't write more than three words without spelling and grammatical errors and missing words? Obviously flaming has a bad influence on the grammar.
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Post by Silenia on Jul 13, 2012 13:36:11 GMT -5
Kitty: That's a good theory. My own was that you've got to be pretty talent-less to waste your time flaming, and that that's where all those errors come from.
Viralic: Then yes, it is a very mature way. =)
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 13, 2012 13:44:00 GMT -5
Hm, another good explanation. Or it's a bit of both. I mean, they can't spell enough to write themselves, so they use their time to flame others who have more talent?
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 13, 2012 13:58:23 GMT -5
Haha probably! *sighs* Why do people get so damn rude over someone's fanfic? It's just plain annoying!
On the bright side, at least it means they read your works... save for the ones that don't bother.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 13, 2012 14:05:42 GMT -5
It's funny how they can't say anything positive, but still keep reading, isn't it?
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 13, 2012 14:11:04 GMT -5
Exactly! They must get some kind of sick thrill out of it.
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Post by Silenia on Jul 13, 2012 14:29:11 GMT -5
Perhaps they're masochists? XD
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 13, 2012 14:35:31 GMT -5
Either that, or they just enjoy what they view as bad fanfiction. I know I enjoy some bad stories...
Take Thirty H's, for instance! Once I read it, I couldn't get it out of my head! And now I constantly talk about holy fuckfire, fuckslayer and killing the fuck out of planets.
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Post by Silenia on Jul 13, 2012 14:39:46 GMT -5
At least in Thirty H's, the sentences themselves are understandable. There's no plot, of course, beyond perhaps using fuck as often as possible and in as many combinations as possible, but most words are at least spelled correctly or in a way that you can still get what they meant.
Honestly, it looks like the highest literature possible compared to jo bekke at hogwarts and My Immortal. (Unfortunately, I have seen even worse, too)
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Post by TeamSirius on Jul 13, 2012 14:43:16 GMT -5
I just went and read the Thirty H story. It's very strange haha
I have to agree with Silenia. I didn't think there could be any worse than Jo Bekke but there is. Imma wiserd was one of them.
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Post by Silenia on Jul 13, 2012 14:47:34 GMT -5
Oh, there are stories out there that make my earliest "writing" of stories look not just legible but of high-quality... and I was three by the time I started writing. (Although admittedly, my 'stories' from all the way back generally consisted of 4-5 sentences.)
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Post by viralic1 on Jul 13, 2012 15:02:52 GMT -5
I might be able to find my first story, but I'm not sure if I want to lol. I originally published a small story like one-one half years ago, but it got to the point where I stopped enjoying the story and I abandoned it. It was fairly popular, I just stopped enjoying what I was writing.
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 13, 2012 15:06:22 GMT -5
I read all of My Immortal once... and let's just say that it gave me a massive headache. At least 30 H's has some form of humor in it!
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Post by viralic1 on Jul 13, 2012 15:08:50 GMT -5
I read it with a friend, and we got a good laugh out of it.
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