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Post by Trilonias on Jun 27, 2012 21:22:36 GMT -5
How you feel about Ron for that is how I feel for Ginny...
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Post by sherza on Jun 27, 2012 21:26:23 GMT -5
Yep makes sense gnovella. Unless everything that we read about Ron was an act from the very beginning at age 11 (which what 11yr old could pull off what would essentially be a deep cover operation) then canon Ron is to rash, tactless, impulsive and incapable of not saying what is on his mind to be faking being Harry's friend. Very true, but it's entirely possible for someone else to use/count on those very traits to help mold Harry, with Ron being completely clueless and just being himself. Let's face it, Ron makes it *really* clear what he approves of and what he does not. To whit Bad things 1) Academic achievement (He constantly puts off and whinges about homework, and copies off of Hermione and Harry and chance he gets 2) Those Evil Scumbag Slytherins, They Should All Die And Do The World A Favor.
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Post by blackroses77 on Jun 27, 2012 21:40:52 GMT -5
Yep makes sense gnovella. Unless everything that we read about Ron was an act from the very beginning at age 11 (which what 11yr old could pull off what would essentially be a deep cover operation) then canon Ron is to rash, tactless, impulsive and incapable of not saying what is on his mind to be faking being Harry's friend. Very true, but it's entirely possible for someone else to use/count on those very traits to help mold Harry, with Ron being completely clueless and just being himself. Let's face it, Ron makes it *really* clear what he approves of and what he does not. To whit Bad things 1) Academic achievement (He constantly puts off and whinges about homework, and copies off of Hermione and Harry and chance he gets 2) Those Evil Scumbag Slytherins, They Should All Die And Do The World A Favor. Yeah younger Ron is definitely how you describe him and I can easily see Dumbles telling Molly to look out for Harry on the platform him having hand selected Ron to be Harry's friend and wanting Harry to meet Ron before anyone else. Ron wouldn't have had any idea it was arranged at the time and would have just wanted to talk with The-Boy-Who-Lived. Their friendship would just fall into place after sharing a train car since Dumbles would know Harry would latch onto the first person to befriend him after his life with the Dursleys. Thus further cementing the prejudices Harry learned from Hagrid just like Dumbles wanted.
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Post by sherza on Jun 27, 2012 21:57:04 GMT -5
Exactly. That's pretty much how I figure it worked out.
And in the end, Hermione was a bonus ... something Dumbledore didn't plan on, because she was Muggleborn and unknown to him, but damn.
I mean, she all but worships authority, espeically as codified in the all-knowing oracle of Books, with Dumbledore being a close second. She's (at least at first, she mellows a bit by the end) a rules-lawyer, insufferable know-it-all that butts her nose and opinion in everywhere, whether it's wanted or correct or not. She completely ignores other peoples' opinions and knowledge if said opinions or knowledge contradict either Authority or her own opinions, and she gets downright *pissy* when Harry manages to do better than her at anything, up to and including DADA.
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Post by blackroses77 on Jun 27, 2012 22:10:13 GMT -5
Exactly. That's pretty much how I figure it worked out. And in the end, Hermione was a bonus ... something Dumbledore didn't plan on, because she was Muggleborn and unknown to him, but damn. I mean, she all but worships authority, espeically as codified in the all-knowing oracle of Books, with Dumbledore being a close second. She's (at least at first, she mellows a bit by the end) a rules-lawyer, insufferable know-it-all that butts her nose and opinion in everywhere, whether it's wanted or correct or not. She completely ignores other peoples' opinions and knowledge if said opinions or knowledge contradict either Authority or her own opinions, and she gets downright *pissy* when Harry manages to do better than her at anything, up to and including DADA. Hermione was definitely a bonus for Dumbledore, one he was probable jumping for joy over at least at first. Considering she viewed authority without the rose tinted glasses in the later books, which had to be a hard thing for her to accept, I think it reasonable for fanon Hermione to have her eyes opened to Dumbledore's manipulations before DH which would have backfired spectacularly on Dumbledore. But yeah she is completely lacking in the ability to accept being wrong about something, or someone else being right or better.
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Post by Dimcairien on Jun 27, 2012 22:27:12 GMT -5
I like friendship fics between Harry and the DA. I also like more of the tragic darker fics like hurt/comfort and angst. I love Weasley family fics especially ones in the aftermath of the Battle of Hogwarts. I may not approve of Molly sometimes, but I love how close they are to each other. To that point, I also like next generation fics or wizarding reform fics. I also love Sirius and Harry bonding fics. you would probably like MBP's fics then. They are morbid, but they are about the Weasley family and them bonding through hard times. She's one of my favourite authors. I really liked Weasley Family Heartbreak, even though it did make me cry. I've read it two or three times, which goes to show how much i enjoyed it.
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Post by mountaingirl777 on Jun 27, 2012 23:48:10 GMT -5
you would probably like MBP's fics then. They are morbid, but they are about the Weasley family and them bonding through hard times. She's one of my favourite authors. I really liked Weasley Family Heartbreak, even though it did make me cry. I've read it two or three times, which goes to show how much i enjoyed it. Oh me too! I didn't cry the first time I read it, but after this year I've cried through the whole thing the 3 to 5 times I've read it! It has to do with my dad dying as well, so it hits home more than it used to. I picture myself in their place and it just hurts! I've read some stories of some other writer who she is friends with, they are in her favorites. It might be Dodger Gilmore, but I'm not sure. They have good ones as well.
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Post by jessieanneh2 on Jun 27, 2012 23:53:33 GMT -5
I'm very much into Harry/Ginny stories... Which probably puts me at odds with a lot of you here. I also like time travel stories, Harry gets away from Dursleys (rescue or otherwise!) [I'm currently writing one where Ginny and Luna rescue him from there...], Soulbond(s), Harry and/or Ginny in different houses and I can't recall what else. I'll put them down when I remember. I don't mind Harry/Ginny if it is well written. JKR put me off that pairing the way she pulled it out of no where. I like Time travel if it is written well, and isn't cliche. I like angst once in a while too
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Post by jessieanneh2 on Jun 27, 2012 23:55:30 GMT -5
I've already mentioned in other threads the slash pairings I like to read so won't mention them again. I also like: Severus adopts, mentor's, is biological father of Harry. These stories might involve Sev rescuing Harry from the Dursley. Stories where Sirius or Remus or both rescue and/or raise Harry Redo/time travel fics but only if they start either right before Harry goes to Hogwarts or at some other point while he is at Hogwarts. Hate when he goes back to the maurader's time or Tom Riddle's time. Of course my favorite type of story is the RtB Although I don't like any of these stories that have James, Lily or young maurader's in them. Creature fics with Harry as a submissive or equal partner. Dumbledore being shown as manipulative or evil. But then again I also like Dumbledore as the good guy. Same for Ron, Molly, Ginny and Hermione. What can I say, I'm an equal opportunity basher/lover I too have a love hate relationship with Dumbledore! I cried when he died in the sixth book and movie
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Post by jessieanneh2 on Jun 28, 2012 0:01:28 GMT -5
Exactly! I find Ron too rash to be fake. Does that make sense? I mean, he's so open about everything, he says what he feels like, and then it turns into an act? I just can't buy it. Ron isn't my favorite character by any means but i like stories where he is a bigger jerk in cannon but then redeems himself. I like Ron Bashing stories but people do get out of hand at times with the bashing.
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Post by Dimcairien on Jun 28, 2012 2:42:18 GMT -5
She's one of my favourite authors. I really liked Weasley Family Heartbreak, even though it did make me cry. I've read it two or three times, which goes to show how much i enjoyed it. Oh me too! I didn't cry the first time I read it, but after this year I've cried through the whole thing the 3 to 5 times I've read it! It has to do with my dad dying as well, so it hits home more than it used to. I picture myself in their place and it just hurts! I've read some stories of some other writer who she is friends with, they are in her favorites. It might be Dodger Gilmore, but I'm not sure. They have good ones as well. For me the story hit home on the first read as my grandpa passed away from cancer a little over five years ago. I kept remembering what it was like to go through that period of trial. I do understand about the pain that happen during that time, but at the same time, I know my grandpa is in Heaven. And I'll have to check out Dodger Gilmore's stories.
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Post by Silvertongue on Jun 28, 2012 4:18:45 GMT -5
The fics I like to read are usually Slash but if a fic has a good story I can read Harry with any girl that isn't Ginny, Hermione or Cho. If it's written REALLY well then I can deal with Ginny. I can read Harry with literally any male character. I only really read fics with Harry as the main focus so any other pairings are usually background stuff (and that can be anyone because I'm not paying all that much attention to them).
I like reading: Dark Harry Death Eater Harry Slytherin Harry Time Travel Harry Time Travel Tom Riddle Time Travel Marauders/Lily/Snape Time Travel Founders Powerful Harry Smart Harry Re-do fics focussed on Harry and/or Snape Possessed by Horcrux Harry Teacher Harry Sevitus (but not Severitus) Harry is rescued from the Dursleys Good Malfoys and bad Malfoys Drarry, Snarry and Tomarry Reading the books Hogwarts Chatroom Evil and good Dumbledore Evil and good Weasleys Not evil Voldemort and Death Eaters Creature Harry or anyone else.
Pretty much anything that isn't Fem!someone, wrong boy who lived, or gives Harry a sibling.
I'm sure there are tons more but I can't think of them right now.
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Post by anon on Jun 28, 2012 5:35:01 GMT -5
i like a logical harry, such in the way that when he learned voldemort was targeting him specifically at the end of book 1, he should of learned all he could from the library or hermione the next year as hermione learned everything she could. pairings don't mind really as long as it's well written though especially liked harry/cho, just thought they were moving to fast considering cedric was murdered the previous year
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Post by Silvertongue on Jun 28, 2012 5:41:23 GMT -5
I really enjoy animagus fics where either Harry gets to know someone through his form or someone else gets to know him through their form, like Snape, Draco or even Voldemort (read one where Voldemort was turned into an albino cobra and stayed with Harry as he was the only one who could understand him).
I like them to be slightly realistic though, none of this 'Oh, hey look, he's being nice to an animal, he must be different to how I thought he was' crap. And I don't like multiple animagus as much. I don't mind Magical animagus though, like Phoenix or Dragon, though those two are over-used.
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Post by isk2837 on Jun 28, 2012 7:01:08 GMT -5
I like: Stories with a H/Hr pairing (it's my favourite, though I'm completely fine with other pairings like H/G and R/Hr as well) Feel-good stories (that is, stories which are light on the angst and heavy on the good guys stomping the bad guys) Stories where characters like Draco and Snape are actually made to pay for their horrible behaviour instead of getting away with it every time. Time-travel redo stories Characters Read stories (especially when it's a new and novel idea, like that The Queen and others read the books fic that's being written now) Stories where Harry and Ginny make friends sooner and get together in a smoother and better-done way than in canon Stories where Harry and Hermione go to the Yule Ball together and get together as a result Stories where Ron and Ginny actually accept H/Hr without getting angry and jealous Stories which bash characters while keeping them entirely in character, bashing them for their existing flaws and actual actions instead of magnifying their flaws, giving them new ones, having them do extra bad things (e.g try to drug Harry and Hermione with love potions), or ignoring/minimising their good qualities/actions Stories where Dumbledore wakes up and actually starts pro-actively fighting the Death Eaters and Voldemort and making sure that Harry is ready to take him down. Stories exploring the Marauders years at Hogwarts Stories where Sirius lives past OoTP Stories where Sirius is found innocent and gets to raise Harry, either from the start or later on in life, with plenty of help from Remus of course.
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Post by Miss Wings on Jun 28, 2012 7:45:41 GMT -5
1. I can read Harry with any FEMALE who isn't Ginny or old and wrinkly. Can sometimes read a male pairing as long as it isn't over the top. 2. Grandfatherly/Manipulative Dumbledore etc.. 3. Bashing of Ron/Hermione/Ginny/Molly and Dumbledore. 4. A few parental Severus/Harry stories as long as they aren't too mushy. 5. Powerful/Founders/Merlins heir Harry. 6. Royal Harry 7. Minerva as either a relative or acting motherly to Harry. 8. Disabled Harry- must be written well with clear facts! 9. Dan/Emma Granger stories. 10. Crossovers with CSI & NCIS, Law & Order, Charmed, X-Men. 11. Adopted/Different houses.
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Post by Silvertongue on Jun 28, 2012 8:06:48 GMT -5
Oh yeah! I like Disabled Harry too, including Blind/Mute/Deafness.
Also Harry as a Founder's Heir or more than one of them.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jun 28, 2012 10:15:41 GMT -5
I love the following kinds of stories: Harry is rescued from the Dursleys and heals from the abuse placed on him. Sirius and Remus act as parents to Harry. Dumbledore is called out for being a manipulative bastard. Neville and Harry become friends earlier on, and Neville starts to believe in himself sooner because of it. Took the Slytherins out – you know I'm not a Snape fan – but the rest sounds good. Agreed. I will also add: Severus acting as guardian, mentor, or otherwise just manning up and treating Harry lke he's something other than James reborn. Dumbledore having to face true consequences for his assholish manipulativeness. Harry using the brains god gave him, and/or refusing to be a pawn, using the Slytherin side of his mentality, etc. Ok, guardian I don't like, but him behaving at least acceptable, I could at least read Assholish? The new words I am learning here ... never seen it as an adjective. The last idea is good, and even more so when he works together with the Marauders. True, true. I can see it now. Pomona being the front-woman for the group and being all 'Hi! Would you mind doing things the way we want? I'd be ever so grateful. You don't? Oh, that's really too bad. Well, here, have this plant as a thank-you gift ... ' 24 hours later: She gets her way. Or: 'Trust me when I say you want to deal with me, rather than Minerva. She'd be rather tempted to transfigure you into a gargoyle and Stick you to the roof of the school. Filius would use you for target practice ... and really, sweetie, it's better not to contemplate what Severus would do to you.' LOL! Oh yes, that's how it should go! But I absolutely like the idea of them teaming up against the MOB. Actually, Dumbledore bashing is always good. As is Molly bashing. Overall, a Harry who uses his brain and doesn't always needs Hermone to tell him what to do. He can do it alone or with Sirius (and Remus). Which leads into the other favourite: Sirius surviving and taking charge to help Harry and kick the MOB to hell. Redo-/Time travel fics where he changes stuff for the better. Hm, that's all I can think of right now.
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Post by jessieanneh2 on Jun 28, 2012 10:38:53 GMT -5
The fics I like to read are usually Slash but if a fic has a good story I can read Harry with any girl that isn't Ginny, Hermione or Cho. If it's written REALLY well then I can deal with Ginny. I can read Harry with literally any male character. I only really read fics with Harry as the main focus so any other pairings are usually background stuff (and that can be anyone because I'm not paying all that much attention to them). I like reading: Dark Harry Death Eater Harry Slytherin Harry Time Travel Harry Time Travel Tom Riddle Time Travel Marauders/Lily/Snape Time Travel Founders Powerful Harry Smart Harry Re-do fics focussed on Harry and/or Snape Possessed by Horcrux Harry Teacher Harry Sevitus (but not Severitus) Harry is rescued from the Dursleys Good Malfoys and bad Malfoys Drarry, Snarry and Tomarry Reading the books Hogwarts Chatroom Evil and good Dumbledore Evil and good Weasleys Not evil Voldemort and Death Eaters Creature Harry or anyone else. Pretty much anything that isn't Fem!someone, wrong boy who lived, or gives Harry a sibling. I'm sure there are tons more but I can't think of them right now. I used to love Het fiction in Potterverse but I read Slash more than anything
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Post by jessieanneh2 on Jun 28, 2012 10:43:26 GMT -5
1. I can read Harry with any FEMALE who isn't Ginny or old and wrinkly. Can sometimes read a male pairing as long as it isn't over the top. 2. Grandfatherly/Manipulative Dumbledore etc.. 3. Bashing of Ron/Hermione/Ginny/Molly and Dumbledore. 4. A few parental Severus/Harry stories as long as they aren't too mushy. 5. Powerful/Founders/Merlins heir Harry. 6. Royal Harry 7. Minerva as either a relative or acting motherly to Harry. 8. Disabled Harry- must be written well with clear facts! 9. Dan/Emma Granger stories. 10. Crossovers with CSI & NCIS, Law & Order, Charmed, X-Men. 11. Adopted/Different houses. I like alot of those too, I've read a good story where Harry has Autism.
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Post by mountaingirl777 on Jun 28, 2012 10:45:32 GMT -5
oh, I would also like to add that I like the "damsel in distress" stories, like Hermione getting abused or something and one of the guys comes and saves her. It makes her OC, but I do like it
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Post by Silvertongue on Jun 28, 2012 10:49:19 GMT -5
I'd read a couple where he is autistic. One of them is Snape looking after him because none of the other teachers understand what it even is and think he should be functioning perfectly fine and McGonagall treats him rather badly. I think it's called Different, Not Defective. It's a WIP though.
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Post by Dimcairien on Jun 29, 2012 1:21:12 GMT -5
I'm reading Different, not Defective and am really enjoying it. I think one reason I enjoy disabled Harry is because I have a heart for the special needs world.
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Post by Silvertongue on Jun 29, 2012 4:48:38 GMT -5
Same here. I watched that series Touch and my heart went out to the kid. But I'm the kind of person who would want to hug him so much and it would really hurt me knowing that I couldn't because he hated being touched.
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Post by physicssquid on Jun 29, 2012 10:37:07 GMT -5
I like:- 1) Harry's the heir to one or more Founders 2) Harry ealises that Dumbledore's a manipulative old goat 3) Slash, Harry/Lucius, Harry/Severus. Harry/Voldemort as long as Harry isn't too pathetically submissive 4) Minor Ron/Ginny/Molly bashing, as shown in Harry Potter and the Manipulator of Destiny 5) Do-overs, where Harry goes back to the beginning of his first year or before and does things differently while also keeping the time-line straight 6) Fics where Harry is superpowerful and kicks butt 7) Good Malfoys, because Lucius is one of my favourite characters 8) Good Dumbledore, though he is still Manipulative but only does it to keep the world safe 9) Dumbledore bashing, as shown in Partially Kissed Hero 10) Comedies where people are just goofs, like in Bestest Birthday Ever by nonjon
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Post by mountaingirl777 on Jun 29, 2012 13:25:48 GMT -5
I'm reading Different, not Defective and am really enjoying it. I think one reason I enjoy disabled Harry is because I have a heart for the special needs world. Can you give me the link? I would like to read it as well.
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Post by Silvertongue on Jun 29, 2012 13:37:05 GMT -5
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Post by bkaddictjk on Jun 30, 2012 11:09:16 GMT -5
I love RTB, but that's kinda obvious, seeing as I'm here...
I like the "Next Generation" fics, Rose/Scorpius paring, and Marauder era, James/Lily... oh and the fics where Ron and Hermione finds out about Harry's home life.
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Post by mkatl1 on Jul 1, 2012 6:13:01 GMT -5
I like the reading the book types the best! I also love when Harry is in slytherin as well there the best stories I like it when Harry is a baddie
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Post by Silvertongue on Jul 1, 2012 6:15:52 GMT -5
I like fics where Harry actively interacts with all the houses and tries to get them all to mingle. Then tries to get the purebloods to see how ingenious muggle inventions are.
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