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Post by kumainpink on Jul 17, 2012 17:45:05 GMT -5
*snicker* Yep!
And yeah, I read that... heehee.
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Post by ykickamoocow on Jul 17, 2012 18:54:40 GMT -5
Moocow- I'm going to take a stab in the dark and say you enjoy Ron/Hermione. Personally I dislike it, but it's certainly kind of okay, as it is canon. Big fan of Ron/Hermione as they are the best couple in the books (and the main couple as well as JKR has been offering hints of their feelings for one another nearly from the beginning) so if i have to read fanon i would want to read something with a pairing like Ron/Hermione/Luna which is still Ron and Hermione but for some reason Hermione has found her bisexual side.
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 17, 2012 19:01:05 GMT -5
I don't know... Neville and Luna are more suited to each other. But that's just my opinion.
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Post by sailorsea on Jul 17, 2012 19:03:34 GMT -5
I'd have to say my favorite non-canon relationship is be Harry/Hermione I personally don't really like any other non-canon relationships, heck I barely like many canon relationships and I don't do slash either (sorry)
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 17, 2012 19:04:27 GMT -5
To each their own, Sailor!
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Post by Miss Wings on Jul 17, 2012 19:13:12 GMT -5
Susan/Harry Daphne/Harry Luna/Neville Sirius/Amelia Tonks/Remus Minerva/Poppy Minerva/Pomona Minerva/Rolanda
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Post by MaraudersFTW on Jul 18, 2012 4:40:30 GMT -5
Lily/Snape is what rubs me the wrong way. Lily isn't good enough for my snapey-poo. I never quite forgave her for how she abandoned Sev. While I agree with the first part, I don't agree with the latter. For me, it's snape who's not good enough. If I was in her place, I would have abandoned him back in the first train ride. She had every right to kick his arse to the curb once he started calling people mudblood much less when he actually called her one. I agree that Lily has faults but abandoning him wasn't one of them. I'm wondering as to why you think she should have stuck with a racist who just verbally abused her and spent his youth verbally abusing 'her kind'?
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Post by brokenquill92 on Jul 18, 2012 7:51:00 GMT -5
Lily Luna/Lysander
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Post by Silvertongue on Jul 18, 2012 11:10:21 GMT -5
I like Drarry, Snarry, Lucarry, Tomarry, most male characters/Harry and Albus/Scorpius. They're the only pairings I really actively search for, but not the only ones I read. I read Sev/Siri, Rem/Siri, Sev/Rem, Sev/Rem/Siri, Sev/James, Sev/Lily.
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Post by Nahara46 on Jul 18, 2012 12:03:52 GMT -5
Lily/Snape is what rubs me the wrong way. Lily isn't good enough for my snapey-poo. I never quite forgave her for how she abandoned Sev. While I agree with the first part, I don't agree with the latter. For me, it's snape who's not good enough. If I was in her place, I would have abandoned him back in the first train ride. She had every right to kick his arse to the curb once he started calling people mudblood much less when he actually called her one. I agree that Lily has faults but abandoning him wasn't one of them. I'm wondering as to why you think she should have stuck with a racist who just verbally abused her and spent his youth verbally abusing 'her kind'? Severus didn't verbally abuse her. He called her a bad name ONCE and then apologized repeatedly for it. I have plenty of fights with my best friends, in which I have been called some horrible names. I always forgive them. If I had been Lily, I would have accepted his Apology and seen it as an opportunity- Severus finally seemed to finally understand how calling another a Mudblood can effect things. He was clearly in need of a little help, and I firmly believe that if Lily had stuck beside him, and gently prodded him in the right direction, he would never have become a death eater.
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Post by brokenquill92 on Jul 18, 2012 12:21:49 GMT -5
While I agree with the first part, I don't agree with the latter. For me, it's snape who's not good enough. If I was in her place, I would have abandoned him back in the first train ride. She had every right to kick his arse to the curb once he started calling people mudblood much less when he actually called her one. I agree that Lily has faults but abandoning him wasn't one of them. I'm wondering as to why you think she should have stuck with a racist who just verbally abused her and spent his youth verbally abusing 'her kind'? Severus didn't verbally abuse her. He called her a bad name ONCE and then apologized repeatedly for it. I have plenty of fights with my best friends, in which I have been called some horrible names. I always forgive them. If I had been Lily, I would have accepted his Apology and seen it as an opportunity- Severus finally seemed to finally understand how calling another a Mudblood can effect things. He was clearly in need of a little help, and I firmly believe that if Lily had stuck beside him, and gently prodded him in the right direction, he would never have become a death eater. As someone who has been subject to slurs of all kind from nigger, fag, dike, to half breed if your best friend in the world calls you the magical n-word you have every right to walk out on them seeing as there supposed to be far above such prejudice I'm not saying Snape didn't have a right to be angry but one he was angry at the wrong person and two his attitude no matter who his friend was shows he still had underlying prejudice that just wasn't okay no matter how much he loved Lily
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Post by viralic1 on Jul 18, 2012 12:26:28 GMT -5
Plus it's established that by that time, he had already fallen in with the death eaters. I can imagine how Snape's declaration of love went.
"I love you Lily, I just joined a group that is bent on torturing and murdering people EXACTLY like you in every way."
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Post by Nahara46 on Jul 18, 2012 12:29:57 GMT -5
There is no proof that Snape was a death eater by that point. He just had a few friends of the wrong crowd. If Lily had stayed while he was realizing how much that word had hurt, then she could have helped Severus back up to the right direction. She's the only one who could have 'saved' him. After all, the only thing that made Severus turn against Voldemort was Lily.
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Post by viralic1 on Jul 18, 2012 12:31:57 GMT -5
No, she couldn't have. She stuck with him since they were what? Eight? and he hung with that crowd. She tried to help him for years, and he never did anything. She tried to help him, and he called her a mudblood. He didn't want help, he just wanted a girl that he claims he loved, yet all evidence points otherwise.
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Post by Nahara46 on Jul 18, 2012 12:35:12 GMT -5
That's my point- up until then, he didn't quite realize the problems he was causing, how much it hurt other people. I don't think he joined in any physical activities such a crucioing or other fighting against muggle-borns- just the verbal. How Lily reacted would be a slap in the face, so I think that after a few days of letting that sink in, Lily should have tentatively became his friend once more, and made it clear how much it hurt and how she didn't want him to continue. I'm sure he would have stopped then, or at least begun to doubt himself.
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Post by viralic1 on Jul 18, 2012 12:39:10 GMT -5
No, she shouldn't have become his friend again. He called her a mudblood. It's all nice and easy to say what she should have done when you're sitting in a room, but when someone calls you something like that, it's not nice. When a "friend" calls you something like that, its the worst goddamn feeling in the world.
She should have punched him, told him where to shove his apologies, and left him.
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Post by Nahara46 on Jul 18, 2012 12:43:38 GMT -5
I've felt that feeling, Vira, btu I didn't leave my friends because of it. And Personally I consider people who leave there friends based on a single fight, bad friends. Maybe that's just me, but friends are pretty much the most important thing in my life. So I guess it's different for everyone.
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Post by viralic1 on Jul 18, 2012 12:46:18 GMT -5
My friends are the most important thing in my life too, which means I need to depend on them. If my friend decides I deserve to be tortured and murdered because I'm an atheist, I'm not going to spend a couple weeks trying to "understand his position" because in the end, it doesn't matter. He said it because he thought it was true.
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Post by brokenquill92 on Jul 18, 2012 12:47:21 GMT -5
I've felt that feeling, Vira, btu I didn't leave my friends because of it. And Personally I consider people who leave there friends based on a single fight, bad friends. Maybe that's just me, but friends are pretty much the most important thing in my life. So I guess it's different for everyone. You are well within your rights to leave your friends when they call you aracial slur
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Post by Nahara46 on Jul 18, 2012 12:47:55 GMT -5
I'm within my 'rights' to leave my friends no matter what. Doesn't mean it IS right.
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Post by G. Novella on Jul 18, 2012 12:52:11 GMT -5
Just a note, it's not exactly a friend saying YOU need to be murdered, it's a friend saying, look, those guys treat me better than the guys on your side, I still like you and all, but the people who hate your kind are better to me. I want to be your friend, but I can't like your side.
And Nahara, Lily kept telling Snape that his friends weren't the right crowd, that he was going the wrong way, but he ignored her. He was already treating her 'kind' like dirt, and when he attacked her verbally, she realized all her attempts were in vain and she gave up.
I'm not saying Lily was right, or that Snape was. I'm just redirecting the whole argument with that.
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Post by G. Novella on Jul 18, 2012 12:53:06 GMT -5
Note: I don't know which of them was right. Sometimes I feel Lily did the right thing, sometimes I feel like she gave up too easily. But the entire situation is so complex that you can't pin the blame on either person.
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Post by Nahara46 on Jul 18, 2012 12:57:54 GMT -5
That's true Gnovella. There's this one Rtb by Randomreader90 that addresses the situation very well.
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Post by voice-on-the-wind on Jul 18, 2012 13:32:10 GMT -5
You know, I've read a few Remus/Severus fics that pull the pairing off really well, though it's not a common one.
Also, Harry/Hermione has been growing on me for awhile, though I used to avoid it like the plague.
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Post by Silvertongue on Jul 18, 2012 13:38:34 GMT -5
I've actually seen a fic that had Lucius/Arthur as a side-pairing. That was an interesting idea.
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Post by physicssquid on Jul 18, 2012 14:01:37 GMT -5
I read a Harry/Severus story with Lucius/Arthur as a side pairing. It also had Ginny/Colin, Draco/Fred/George, Remus/Rupert Giles and possible Hermione/Sirius.
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Post by MaraudersFTW on Jul 18, 2012 16:31:11 GMT -5
While I agree with the first part, I don't agree with the latter. For me, it's snape who's not good enough. If I was in her place, I would have abandoned him back in the first train ride. She had every right to kick his arse to the curb once he started calling people mudblood much less when he actually called her one. I agree that Lily has faults but abandoning him wasn't one of them. I'm wondering as to why you think she should have stuck with a racist who just verbally abused her and spent his youth verbally abusing 'her kind'? Severus didn't verbally abuse her. He called her a bad name ONCE and then apologized repeatedly for it. I have plenty of fights with my best friends, in which I have been called some horrible names. I always forgive them. If I had been Lily, I would have accepted his Apology and seen it as an opportunity- Severus finally seemed to finally understand how calling another a Mudblood can effect things. He was clearly in need of a little help, and I firmly believe that if Lily had stuck beside him, and gently prodded him in the right direction, he would never have become a death eater. He may have called her that once but he called everyone of her 'breed' Mudblood frequently, it was implied in that chapter. Even if that humiliating situation didn't occur, it was only a matter of time before he called her that. I have had fights with my best friends too but we never called each other any racial slurs, we know where our limits are. For me any kind of racial slur/extreme name-calling is unforgivable, different people react differently and that is why I side with Lily on abandoning Snape. I don't think Snape really understood how awful that term really meant at that point tbh, I'm not saying he didn't understand it later in life because he did but at that point he really understand it. If he had truly understood it then he would have never joined the death eaters. The only thing he understood is that he was losing Lily and he wanted his best friend back. She asked him whether he still wanted to be a death eater and what did he have to say, nothing. That silence said it all to me, that he truly did not understand how much he was hurting his best friend by joining a group that wants to exterminate all mudbloods. He needed much more than a little help, way a lot more. If Lily was not able to reach him in the past 6 or so years, then what makes you think she can influence his beliefs now. What's worse than calling her Mudblood is in the manner, time, and place he called her that term. Think about what was happening at that time inside and outside Hogwarts. Outside, Voldemort and Death eaters were killing, torturing, maiming etc muggleborns and inside Hogwarts, future death eaters (aka Snape's friends) were torturing muggleborns. He called Lily that term in a public place, infront of her peers, how degrading and horrifying is that when you're trying to help someone and said person reacts in such a way. There's a war going on inside and outside Hogwarts, pointing out that Lily is a Mudblood is harmful to her (it could mean torture, death etc). I'm not saying Lily would deny being muggleborn but she probably would not shout it from the tower for all to hear (it's like screaming I'm a Jew in nazi Germany) because pointing out such things for all to hear is very detrimental to Lily at that period of time. After all, Slughorn didn't seem to know Lily was muggleborn for years. I'm just saying time and really mattered at that point. I would have been more forgiving if someone were to call me that at a time when there was no evil murdering psychopath killing and torturing people for being identified as a muggleborn.
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Post by dracosfairmaiden on Jul 18, 2012 16:35:15 GMT -5
Snape shouldn't have called her that no matter the circumstance. Calling someone a name like that is unforgivable in that point to me. Lily made excuses to him but after a while, she couldn't handle that anymore. I believe Snape never loved Lily anyway: he was obsessed with her. Obsessing over someone doesn't mean you love them.
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Post by physicssquid on Jul 18, 2012 16:41:21 GMT -5
People generally say or do things in the heat of the moment, and most of the time, they regret them later. Snape only called Lily that name because he'd been humiliated, again, by James and Sirius. He was angry, embarrassed beyond all comprehension, and he lashed out. He did come to regret it later after realising quite how horrible that word was, but by then it was too late. Lily should have forgiven him, and maybe she did eventually, we don't know what she did or didn't do after graduating. Heck, maybe she wrote him a letter telling him she forgave him, but was never able to send it because she had to go into hiding with James and Harry.
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Post by Nahara46 on Jul 18, 2012 16:43:42 GMT -5
Honestly, I think we should agree to disagree. We obviously have different values and ideas of friendship, I think that here the term 'stick through thick and thin' applies. He was going through thick, and Lily didn't stick.
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