They're still deleting fics...

[G. Novella]

I completely agree Kitty At least here we feel some kind of respect, and appreciation, instead of cheap and disposable D:<

[Kitty279]

Indeed. We might disagree on certain things, but in the end, even if the arguments were heated, they were without insults.

I couldn't help but notice, despite the RtB fics having to go, the difference in approach, too - while FFN is just deleting, Proboards notified Point Given and gave him a time window that enabled him to warn the authors and readers, so backups could be made, if necessary. That alone is better, too.

And as I said, the company ...

[G. Novella]

... Is worth it all

And the fact that we're given time, is so appreciatable. Have you noticed FF.net has now a backing up system connected, but hasn't given any suggestion to back up a fic? It's like a cheap way of saying, it's you fault now, we gave you the program..

[werewulfking]

Well I am not very impressed with FF.net too but I still like to go there and browse through the stories from Harry Potter and especially the less known fandoms. The sheer size of the archive still holds a great appeal for me.

[Ithiarel]

Me too.

I don't browse through the HP category so much anymore, but for other fandoms FF.net is still the place to go to for new stories...
And I don't think that this is going to change any time soon. Even if the fandoms start to thin out, it'll still take months for new places to establish themselves...

[Kitty279]

Saw something about a backup, but as I don't have fics there and use flagfic for the rest, I didn't even look twice.

The only one fandom I am interested in save HP is LotR, and for that one, I've given up FFN at least 8 years ago already. There's a much better archive for it - small, but fine, and with a quality you have to search for at FFN with a magnifying glass. So I won't miss FFN all that much anyway.

[kumainpink]

There are some stories I still enjoy reading. Recnac and a few others that are done really well. For those stories, I'll never completely leave FFN.

[physicssquid]

I still browse through the HP archive at ffnet to see what new stories are around, but apart from that, I don't do much else. I only uploaded one story, after the purge started, but decided not to upload any others for fear that they would be deleted.

[ykickamoocow]

I have just found out from here

musingsofaficfanatic.tumblr.com/post/28828139673/attention-readers

that a prominate Ron/Hermione author has been told to remove her stories from FFnet due to sexually explicit material. If FFnet are not going to allow sexuall explicit stories then they are going to find 40% less internet trafic going to their website.

[Ithiarel]

This may just be an enforcing within the HP category. After all JKR made it very clear that she does not mind people writing fanfiction AS LONG AS these fanfictions are appropriate for children, i.e. not sexually explicit.

Since FF.net is already blocking some fandoms, because the original authors do not want fanfiction to be written, it actually makes sense that they enforce this wish, too, by deleting the stories that do not follow JKRs wishes.

That would not mean that they are going to delete all sexually explicit stories in all fandoms.

(Although, personally, this doesn't concern me at all, since I neither write nor read that kind of story... *shrugs*)

[G. Novella]

Nope, they're targetting Twilight I heard, and PJO, so it's just their MA rule they dug up to enforce

[ykickamoocow]

Well if they are going to delete one authors sexually explicit stories they better delete all of them as well. Would FFnet really be willing to gut 40% of their archive? It is also no coincidence that some of the most popular Harry Potter stories on FFnet have strong sexual content in them.

[Kitty279]

To be honest, I never understood the fuss about sexual content anyway. The same people have no problem with kids watching or reading extreme violence - after all, torture, maiming and killing described in excruciating detail doesn't harm the children. But a kiss or touch - no, we can't have that, the poor kids will be scarred for life

While I don't look for sexual content, as most of it bores me, I have read at least one fic elsewhere which was kicked off FFN for "heavy sexual content" that I'd rate T at best and which was allowed on a website that doesn't allow that sort of content at all, after the webmasterin reading the scene. So, I doubt they are really deleting only the MA content.

Besides, is it just me or were mainly the RtB stories with many reviews targeted and deleted, while the less popular ones with pityfull quality are still there? I still think the main problem is that the Cyberbully Union can't stand people having so much success when they themselves have nothing to show.

[physicssquid]

Honestly, I can't see why they insist on trying to force people to write stories that don't feature heacy smut scenes. After all, I'm pretty sure that at least some of the children they're trying to protect, see horrid scenes in the news and in newspapers, even if they aren't intending to watch. I don't get it.

[G. Novella]

Meh, it's something I got to agree with, though I think it's more they started with uber popular and are working their way down.

As for sex, did you hear the outcry about Green Lantern being gay? This is comics which portray violence, gore, and zero happy endings. But a gay superhero, that's a step too far

[kumainpink]

Many people have thought that Batman was gay in the past, and that never turned out well, either. *sighs* It's just sexual preference! When will people grow up!

By the way, I'm under the impression that Bruce is bisexual, though he leans mostly toward women.

[Dimcairien]

Aug 6, 2012 5:47:44 GMT -5 Kitty279 said:

Saw something about a backup, but as I don't have fics there and use flagfic for the rest, I didn't even look twice.

The only one fandom I am interested in save HP is LotR, and for that one, I've given up FFN at least 8 years ago already. There's a much better archive for it - small, but fine, and with a quality you have to search for at FFN with a magnifying glass. So I won't miss FFN all that much anyway.

What site would that be? I'd love to find a few really good LotR fics.

As for the deletion of the M or sexual stories, I wish ff.net would have a system in which only those of a certain age could read. I know hpff and yourfanfiction have this set up, which does help. Yes, people do lie about their age on the internet, but it might help somewhat with the deletion. I don't read stories with sex scenes in them, but I am a believer in the 'don't like, don't read' rule and wish there was some better way to make these stories accessible to those who wish to read them.

[G. Novella]

Seriously though, I mean, how difficult is it to monitor your kid's reading? My mum used to when I started online reading at age 12. She just browsed a few chapters, and then let me go haywire. After I entered high school, she said whatever and just checked the history to make sure it looked decent, and now she trusts me to not go looking for that stuff or being scarred if I do run into it.

[Miss Wings]

my parents can't read so...

[physicssquid]

I am a big believer in the don't like, don't read rule, and I don't see why if an author puts a warning about what a story features, the Cyberbully Union and the arseministrators at ffnet get annoyed. They don't have to like a story, and I'm OK with that, but they should realise that there are plenty of people who do like M or sexual stories, and those people will eventually try and get their own back.

I do agree that ffnet should have a system to prevent those who are under a certain age from reading certain stories, but I also think that parents and guardians should pay more attention to what their children read. I also understand that people lie about their age, but I have a suggestion for ffnet and other fiction sites to prevent the Brits doing that, by insisting that when someone logs in or registers, they use their National Insurance Number or the websites access the census. I don't know whether that would work or not.

[Isilarma]

Aug 4, 2012 0:46:06 GMT -5 codygotkilld said:

Same with me Isilarma, but if you were to write one of your fic ideas from your profile I would enjoy reading it.

Sorry for taking so long to reply, I've been away all weekend with no computer access.

I've decided to write one where the trio end up travelling to the Founders era, just without the books. It should be interesting; Salazar and the other Founders are going to end up seeing some of their memories, so they'll get to see some of the adventures they've had, they just won't get to read about them. It won't be the same, but hopefully it will be worth reading. It will also let me to write a lot more Founders/trio interaction, which I'm really looking forward to.

I am sorry to disappoint everyone who was enjoying the original version, but I'm just so fed up of all these people who don't seem to have anything better to do than report fics.

[Ithiarel]

That's a shame. I really enjoyed your fic.

But I also think that your new idea sounds intriguing. It'd be basically the opposite of my fic (where the Founders travelled into the future)
Now, that I'm writing the first RtB-chapter of my story, I must admit, I'm seriously contemplating to not write each chapter of the books - but just jump through them. I want to get back to the real action, namely what is going on at Hogwarts. *shrugs*
So, I'm fairly certain that your new idea will work out great. ;D

//Edit: Do you know where you'd be posting your new story?

[Dimcairien]

Aug 6, 2012 11:33:45 GMT -5 Isilarma said:

Aug 4, 2012 0:46:06 GMT -5 codygotkilld said:

Same with me Isilarma, but if you were to write one of your fic ideas from your profile I would enjoy reading it.

Sorry for taking so long to reply, I've been away all weekend with no computer access.

I've decided to write one where the trio end up travelling to the Founders era, just without the books. It should be interesting; Salazar and the other Founders are going to end up seeing some of their memories, so they'll get to see some of the adventures they've had, they just won't get to read about them. It won't be the same, but hopefully it will be worth reading. It will also let me to write a lot more Founders/trio interaction, which I'm really looking forward to.

I am sorry to disappoint everyone who was enjoying the original version, but I'm just so fed up of all these people who don't seem to have anything better to do than report fics.

I'm sorry to hear that as your story was one of my favourites, but I'm glad you'll still be doing something with the Trio and the Founders.

[Isilarma]

Thanks. Ithiarel, I did consider doing one where the Founders travelled to the future, but I kept thinking of all the things the Trio could do in the past and just couldn't resist. And I didn't want to do one too similar to yours. I'm not sure when I'll have it up; I've started getting ideas down, but there are a few stories containing important parts of the Founders' backstory that I need to post first, so I probably won't start writing this one for some time yet. I'm very excited about it though, so it will be as soon as I can.

[codygotkilld]

It seems that the anime section has yet to be really hit by the "MA"-rated ban on ff.net. Some of the bigger stories that features some lemons are still up and running but a bunch of the purely smut fics or oneshots are gone. From what I gathered from Critics United is that they do not go after all "MA'-rated but only thhe ones that feature really disturbing scenes like rape, sex with a minor, or stories that only feature sex and nothing else. It seems that they are very lenient with most of the other "M"-rated fics, but I think it is because of the fear of having 1,000+ fans attacking their forum due to the popularity of some of the "M"-rated fics and their authors.

[physicssquid]

That's what we should do. Attack their forum for reporting us and getting the good RtBs deleted.

[Dimcairien]

Aug 6, 2012 13:41:15 GMT -5 physicssquid said:

That's what we should do. Attack their forum for reporting us and getting the good RtBs deleted.

No, we shouldn't do something like that. Doing something like that would mean going down to their level and we're more mature than that.

Yes, what has happened towards the HP forum and the RtBs was wrong, but we shouldn't retaliate in the same way. There has to be a more grown up and professional way to act.

[Isilarma]

Aug 6, 2012 13:46:20 GMT -5 Dimcairien said:

Aug 6, 2012 13:41:15 GMT -5 physicssquid said:

That's what we should do. Attack their forum for reporting us and getting the good RtBs deleted.

No, we shouldn't do something like that. Doing something like that would mean going down to their level and we're more mature than that.

Yes, what has happened towards the HP forum and the RtBs was wrong, but we shouldn't retaliate in the same way. There has to be a more grown up and professional way to act.

Agreed. We attack them and we'll be the ones reported for bad behaviour. We're better than that and we can prove it by not retaliating like children on a playground. Although admittedly the idea is very tempting.

[Ithiarel]

Aug 6, 2012 13:20:22 GMT -5 Isilarma said:

I'm not sure when I'll have it up; I've started getting ideas down, but there are a few stories containing important parts of the Founders' backstory that I need to post first, so I probably won't start writing this one for some time yet. I'm very excited about it though, so it will be as soon as I can.

That's perfectly understandable. Especially if your story is going to take place in the past. Those one-shots will probably also be a good way to get used to the setting (which is, frankly, very different than a modern one).

[Kitty279]

Aug 6, 2012 10:19:17 GMT -5 Dimcairien said:

What site would that be? I'd love to find a few really good LotR fics.

That is Stories of Arda. If you tell me what you prefer (Hobbits? Elves? Certain main characters?) I might be able to recommend a few good authors.

As for the deletion of the M or sexual stories, I wish ff.net would have a system in which only those of a certain age could read. I know hpff and yourfanfiction have this set up, which does help. Yes, people do lie about their age on the internet, but it might help somewhat with the deletion. I don't read stories with sex scenes in them, but I am a believer in the 'don't like, don't read' rule and wish there was some better way to make these stories accessible to those who wish to read them.

Agreed. Ask for their age, and IMO, if they lie, you can't be blamed. Besides, there's a responsibility of the parents as well. And I'm in the 'don't like, don't read' camp, too.