RtB fics will be taken down

[physicssquid]

thx

[fantasy]

The link for it is on her profile page.

[mountaingirl777]

hey it looks like Azaelia has pulled out. It doesn't even look like she is going to do the letter. I wonder what happened.

[lucyolsen]

Well, whatever happened, I'm a bit relieved. I don't think it's ever a good idea to get official people involved in fanfic issues. Really, what affect would even JKR herself have on fanfiction.net in an attempt to get them to stop bullying? The only thing that she could have gotten done was the entire HP section deleted, and I'd really rather not.

[physicssquid]

I think she was just worn down by not only the jerks at the CU, but also by people copying her ideas for comments and pretending they were theirs.

[mountaingirl777]

I think we are seeing an end to a fad....which is what I see the RtB stories as. It was a good fad while it lasted and I'm glad that I found it. I do admit that after a few days of all this crap of bullying and fighting, these stories started to look boring (except a few). As I said on her FB page, I was going to fight, but then something clicked and I remembered that there was more at stake if I came into legal action about it. My job, my family, ect. It just isn't worth it. I would rather have my job, friend and family than these stories. That is all they are...stories. All that has happened won't stop me from writing other fanfiction though.

[fantasy]

The letter may still be sent. Azaelia is going to post an updated version of the letter in the group for those who are still keen to do it, either tonight or tomorrow.

[melodypottersnape]

I just hope that JK doesn't ban hp fanfiction. I also wish she doesn't care enough about RTB to ban them because I really don't want to go through the hassel of making that email for her to reconsider. Even though if she decides to ban RTB my letter really wont do anything really.

[physicssquid]

I too hope she won't ban hp fanfiction. If she does ban it, then a lot of people will be up in arms, angry about losing the ability to read and write their own ideas of what could have happened in the hp world.

[The Stag Patronus]

Aug 13, 2012 19:19:42 GMT -5 mountaingirl777 said:

As I said on her FB page, I was going to fight, but then something clicked and I remembered that there was more at stake if I came into legal action about it. My job, my family, ect. It just isn't worth it. I would rather have my job, friend and family than these stories. That is all they are...stories. All that has happened won't stop me from writing other fanfiction though.

yeah, saw a comment there that made me realize I was sort of also risking a lot. RtBs are without really illegal, and my school does not look lightly on issues of plagiarism, so if it gets into a real legal battle, we could get in a lot of trouble... and in the end that just makes those win even more, 'cause they've also disrupted our real lives as well as our internet lives...

[jeeva160889]

I agree!!! Sounds wonderful!!!

[princedice1]

You know the RTB genre isn't worth the trouble defending on a pubic scale and the letter could accuracy backfire on the HP Fandom and it could cause JK Rowling go a on lawsuit spree against the websites that hosted the RTB fics, and thus websites in response bans HP Fan fiction .

[ShotgunWilly]

The way I look at it, people will forget about this episode before too long and RtBs will eventually make their comeback. mountaingirl up there said that RtBs were a fad. That sounds about right, and, like a fad, it'll go out of fashion for a while and eventually come back, though it might take a couple years.

Also, I definitely don't support a letter to JKR primarily because I've heard that JKR is pretty possessive at this point (Maybe she got screwed over somehow? dunno). I don't really want to badmouth her, but I heard she refused to allow the books to be published in Ebook format for the longest time because she didn't want people stealing them.

Regardless, I think that while JKR supports fanfiction (despite her reservations re: adult content), she would definitely draw the line at RtB fics.

Also, and this is just my personal opinion here, I don't really like RtBs enough to risk lawsuits or anything like that.

[codygotkilld]

I think you have hit the nail on the head Willy. I never heard of RtB until I found ChoicesHP's fics and became addicted from there. Over time though, my feelings for the genre started to slowly wear off as many of the stories started to overlap with one another. Other then the works by Point Given, Dimcairien, G.Novella, Isilarma, and Monkeymail, I was kind of so-so with the rest of the stories. I felt that after reading about the first two books the reactions became extremely predictable and I found myself waiting until they started the third book before I really committed to a author's RtB series.

[Sailorgreeny]

While I do like RtB fics I agree that it's not worth it if it will get ALL HP fics banned. We can at least still talk about things we all seem to have in common on this site. Is YFF sill allowing them? I keep an eye on that site for RtB fics but I've seen on here that some people there are not following the rules. I haven't seen any so far that failed to take out at least one paragraph so far, are they not in the RtB section?

There was one person who only added in the parts they commented on and I think that actually works well, since if you are not sure of the missing parts all you have to do is look at the copy you PAID for.

I will admit I have read so many that they do start getting mixed up in my head. There are some that I really like and for me the one I really wanted to read was book five with Umbitch in the room. Both the dementor attack and just what she makes the students do in detention. After she had claimed the books would 'prove his lies' and all that.

I'm not even sure if anyone got to that point. There was one I was following back when i first started to really look at them that got to almost the end of four before the purge started.

[blackroses77]

It sounds like maybe the idea should just be forgotten.

[fantasy]

Maybe some of you guys should share your views with the fb page, like getting those who are on the fb page already to copy some of these posts across... just a suggestion.

[blackroses77]

I just thought of something, isn't YFF looking into the legalities of the RtBs stories and whether removing sections of the text is enough for the stories to be allowed? I think maybe it would be a good idea to wait and see what they come up with. If we're lucky maybe they will give us good news but whatever they find out I'm sure they will pass it along to the members of their site so we'll know what is going on.

As for the CU there has to be a way to stop them without bringing the RtBs into the equation, afterall they target authors who haven't broken any rules. I hope more people from here will sign the petition to stop CU and others that is in another thread. I know it doesn't seem like a petition will do any good but it's a start right?

[mountaingirl777]

Aug 13, 2012 22:26:10 GMT -5 codygotkilld said:

I think you have hit the nail on the head Willy. I never heard of RtB until I found ChoicesHP's fics and became addicted from there. Over time though, my feelings for the genre started to slowly wear off as many of the stories started to overlap with one another. Other then the works by Point Given, Dimcairien, G.Novella, Isilarma, and Monkeymail, I was kind of so-so with the rest of the stories. I felt that after reading about the first two books the reactions became extremely predictable and I found myself waiting until they started the third book before I really committed to a author's RtB series.

same here, there are only two that I'm still interested in (Nikki-Love013 and Phoenixscars). I've contacted them and asked if they could send me the rest of the their stories since they are close to the finish. DH is my favorite book and they are only doing that book. one only has one chapter left and the other has 10. Dimcairien and Charmed4lifekaren is also on the list and I would love to see those finished.....all the rest, I don't care about anymore because they are all same.....I've even seen the same comments over and over again, in different ways but still the same over and over. Nikki-Love013, Phoenixscars, Dimcairien and Charmed4lifekaren are all unique.

I would like to be able to get my stories out as mine are different in plot and all, but still it isn't worth going into legal action for.

[melodypottersnape]

I didn't even like RTB at the first cause the first one I read was terrible. I didn't get into the till this year and I got to say that some seem like reading the same thing repeatedly. So now I go for odd people reading, groups that I liked, noncanon but the book stays the same, or where the writer changes the book. That is what I tried to do with mine was to make changes to the book and put things I dont think people have tried.

As for the banning of HP fanfiction. That is why I kinda hope that person doesn't send a letter to JK about bullying. Cause to me the only thing she can do is take the HP fanfiction from us. If we are lucky she would only take RTB.

As for me sending a letter I had originally only posted that example incase because some one posted about sending a letter if RTB was banned.(I think that is what they said). In the end I decided that if RTB get banned I might send a letter telling why we like RTB and maybe send some RTB stories if someone volunteered some. Of course I wouldn't put their username with them nor put down their actual titles. That way if she reacted bad she would have to actively search for story she doesn't know the title or author to. Though it would probably do no good cause let's face it. What is the likelyhood of her accepting copies of her books.

Though on another note for any RTB fic I do now that I haven't started I'll have seldom quotes from the book. I've been reading a twilight one were the author uses no quotes and it's pretty good. My only problem is it is dificult to tell what they're commenting on without using my books. So if try that I would atleast take some lines from the books.

[TitansRule]

Honestly, I think any letter can only backfire on us - JK Rowling has no influence over FFNet, and CU don't only operate within the HP fandom.

[eskimoRock]

Honestly, this is all getting out of my control a little bit, and it's making me wonder if I should just give up my rtb for now. I have other ideas that I cannot start because my rtb takes up all my time. :/

[unbeastly]

I think it might be a good idea if everyone stopped posting their RtB's for a few months. We let the CU move on to their next crusade and start back when they no longer care.

[physicssquid]

That sounds like a reasonable idea, though we can all keep writing them, and have chapters ready to post when we start again.

[Kitty279]

Of course, you could always hand out chapters via mailing list and only later post them somewhere

[TitansRule]

I'll probably keep posting mine - but I've reached the point where they're reading my own fanfic, so I don't count it as a RtB fic anymore.

[viralic1]

I got to say, KGryfferinclawpuff98's The Return did the whole RtB without the books thing decently in the last chapter, although the quality of writing and the length of the chapter should have been longer.

[The Stag Patronus]

I agree with unbeastly! actually I have already been considering lying low for awhile, while continuing to write, then post 'em up only after when it seems their attention is diverted..

[mountaingirl777]

Aug 14, 2012 11:02:10 GMT -5 viralic1 said:

I got to say, KGryfferinclawpuff98's The Return did the whole RtB without the books thing decently in the last chapter, although the quality of writing and the length of the chapter should have been longer.

can I have the link for that?

[viralic1]

www.fanfiction.net/s/7789083/23/The_Return

The way he did it was alright, although he could have made it much longer.