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Post by physicssquid on Aug 14, 2012 15:59:13 GMT -5
Just read it, and I agree that it was all right, but there was quite a lot missing, in terms of reactions, which is why I prefer RtBs with all the original text in them.
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Post by viralic1 on Aug 14, 2012 16:18:00 GMT -5
I believe the idea is sound, it's just lack of writing on the authors part that made the reactions that small.
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Post by eskimoRock on Aug 14, 2012 16:37:50 GMT -5
Hmm...Are the American and English page numbers the same? You could put in page and line numbers so that people knew where to look...
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Post by viralic1 on Aug 14, 2012 16:52:47 GMT -5
I don't believe so, but it's possible.
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Post by mountaingirl777 on Aug 14, 2012 17:45:41 GMT -5
lol, you know what, I just noticed that that story is on my favorites and on my alerts and that I just read it today.  *facepalms* I wrote a review for it as well, I had a little problem with a part of it, but I did like it overall. |
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Post by blackroses77 on Aug 14, 2012 17:59:38 GMT -5
Of course, you could always hand out chapters via mailing list and only later post them somewhere  I second, third, and fourth what Kitty said. The idea of lying low for a little while to let CU move on to something else is a good one... but I need my RtB fix!!!!! So pretty please email out the chapters if you decide not to post them on-line right now. |
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Post by truestblue on Aug 14, 2012 21:38:40 GMT -5
What? They are deleting Hetalia fics as well? That's sad. I love Hetalia as much as I love Harry Potter, in fact crossovers in that category make me happy as long as they are good. Deleting Hetalia fics for excessive cursing? That is stupid. Have any of them even SEEN Hetalia? I've found that when I come to believe that I could no longer be struck speechless by peoples' stupidity' they've gone and dragged their selves down another level or so. I fear I might be losing brain cells just trying to understand how this little train of thought made sense. I agree Sailorgreeny and also wonder if they ever saw Hetalia. |
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Post by truestblue on Aug 14, 2012 22:03:14 GMT -5
I know that I've been pretty much a lurker here (due to my limited time between work, school, and RL -sigh-)but I must say I've truly enjoyed the RTB stories I've read. Though I didn't really get into them until I stumbled across ChoicesHP's Changing the Future series on FF.net.
If 'laying low' is going to be the plan I just would like to say I would love to know when you would begin posting them again. (So far everyones' story I had the chance to read on here was wonderful and I'm sad that I didn't get the chance to say it when they were still up!)
I guess what I'm trying to say in my sleep addled way is that you all got fans that will still be here and when to storm blows over willing to 're'read them again.
Now that I got that to be semi coherent I'm off to bed; these 18 hour days are murder.
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Post by TitansRule on Aug 15, 2012 2:48:19 GMT -5
With regards to taking the text out of RtB fics, I don't know if this would work for everyone, but I've ended up doing it like this:
Chapter One
The Boy-Who-Lived
“The boy who what?” Sirius asked.
Arabella sighed. “Lived. Can we please try not to interrupt?”
Hermione smiled wryly. “I don’t know if that’s possible, Arabella. But we’ll try to hold comments until the end of paragraphs. How’s that?”
Arabella nodded. “Good enough, I suppose.” She read the first part of the chapter, describing Mr and Mrs Dursley, and introducing their son, Dudley. “…in their opinion there was no finer boy anywhere.” She glanced up, waiting to see if anyone had anything to say.
And then I just fitted in their reactions to the first part of the chapter. Again, don't know if it would work for everyone, but it's worth considering, and we might just need to meet in the middle here.
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Post by Kitty279 on Aug 15, 2012 3:40:59 GMT -5
For longer paragraphs or parts with few comments or more descriptive parts, I can see that work. More work for the author, of course, but if it's the only way to keep posting, I can live with it. Even more so as I barely read the original text any more anyway.
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Post by Sailorgreeny on Aug 15, 2012 3:55:13 GMT -5
I agree, that should work. I also find myself skimming the book text most of the time.
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Post by The Stag Patronus on Aug 15, 2012 4:26:52 GMT -5
With regards to taking the text out of RtB fics, I don't know if this would work for everyone, but I've ended up doing it like this: Chapter One
The Boy-Who-Lived“The boy who what?” Sirius asked. Arabella sighed. “Lived. Can we please try not to interrupt?” Hermione smiled wryly. “I don’t know if that’s possible, Arabella. But we’ll try to hold comments until the end of paragraphs. How’s that?” Arabella nodded. “Good enough, I suppose.” She read the first part of the chapter, describing Mr and Mrs Dursley, and introducing their son, Dudley. “… in their opinion there was no finer boy anywhere.” She glanced up, waiting to see if anyone had anything to say. And then I just fitted in their reactions to the first part of the chapter. Again, don't know if it would work for everyone, but it's worth considering, and we might just need to meet in the middle here. This is a pretty a good idea; I wish it could work on mine T.T The problem is that with mine there's a comment after almost every other two to three sentences. yeah, mine is one of those RtBs with long comments, but mine has characters from past, present and future (and there's over 100 of them in the reading), so many commentaries are necessary for mine... T.T to give them all equal exposure, and some characters can't keep their traps shut XD and anyway, as i'm planning to put mine on YFF, I have a good amount of revising to do, since few paragraphs need to be left out. |
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Post by brokenquill92 on Aug 15, 2012 4:33:44 GMT -5
With regards to taking the text out of RtB fics, I don't know if this would work for everyone, but I've ended up doing it like this: Chapter One
The Boy-Who-Lived“The boy who what?” Sirius asked. Arabella sighed. “Lived. Can we please try not to interrupt?” Hermione smiled wryly. “I don’t know if that’s possible, Arabella. But we’ll try to hold comments until the end of paragraphs. How’s that?” Arabella nodded. “Good enough, I suppose.” She read the first part of the chapter, describing Mr and Mrs Dursley, and introducing their son, Dudley. “… in their opinion there was no finer boy anywhere.” She glanced up, waiting to see if anyone had anything to say. And then I just fitted in their reactions to the first part of the chapter. Again, don't know if it would work for everyone, but it's worth considering, and we might just need to meet in the middle here. This is a pretty a good idea; I wish it could work on mine T.T The problem is that with mine there's a comment after almost every other two to three sentences. yeah, mine is one of those RtBs with long comments, but mine has characters from past, present and future (and there's over 100 of them in the reading), so many commentaries are necessary for mine... T.T to give them all equal exposure, and some characters can't keep their traps shut XD and anyway, as i'm planning to put mine on YFF, I have a good amount of revising to do, since few paragraphs need to be left out. Just do what I do get rid of letters and articles that you have get rid of anything important it's within the rules of yourfanfiction.com |
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Post by TitansRule on Aug 15, 2012 5:31:41 GMT -5
I had comments every other line originally, I'm just having them hold it in until the reader stopped, then go back and discuss what they'd just read. It means rewriting some of them, but, yeah, if you've got that many people reading, you would have a problem. I'm glad you're posting on YFF though - I was enjoying your story!
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Post by lucyolsen on Aug 19, 2012 13:10:45 GMT -5
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Post by Kitty279 on Aug 19, 2012 13:38:51 GMT -5
*shakes head* They really are trying their utmost ... why don't they just report all websites who put fanfiction up all at once? For that seems to be their problem, or at least that's what I am beginnig to feel ...
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Post by Ithiarel on Aug 19, 2012 13:45:56 GMT -5
Well, to be fair, I'm fairly certain that yourFF.com will have to take down the RtB-section soon - reported or not. A fanfic archive that wants to stay online, simply cannot afford to move too much into the grey areas of law (where RtBs live). And, honestly, considering all the other things they did, is reporting a new site surprising? I don't think so. This is exactly, why I already moved my story from the RtB section into the general HP-category... Because if they sacrifice something - it's going to be the RtB-section.  |
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Post by unbeastly on Aug 19, 2012 14:14:46 GMT -5
These idiots are going to end up getting all HP fanfiction banned. Only then will they be satisfied.
The must enjoy HP fanfic to have found these fics (it's the only reason they could have for going through ff.nets HP archive). So why on earth are they doing their upmost to get it banned altogether. It makes zero sense.
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Post by The Stag Patronus on Aug 19, 2012 14:46:29 GMT -5
I didn't know guests can comment in the boards? huh. first time I've seen it.. anyway, I knew they were following us here too, this just proves it :/ I guess this is what someone had told me that they're trying to get rid of YFF too. The must enjoy HP fanfic to have found these fics (it's the only reason they could have for going through ff.nets HP archive). So why on earth are they doing their upmost to get it banned altogether. It makes zero sense. well the other HP fanfics had permission from JK right? I think they think that they'll only be getting the RtBs banned... |
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Post by unbeastly on Aug 19, 2012 14:54:08 GMT -5
I don't know whether it's permission or a lack of banning. It may be something they don't care about but if people complain it might move them to ban it altogether.
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Post by The Stag Patronus on Aug 19, 2012 15:20:22 GMT -5
well I heard/read from somewhere here that JK was "flattered" about HP fanfics. maybe if it's just RtBs those people complain about, they won't get everything banned... hopefully.
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Post by physicssquid on Aug 19, 2012 15:29:51 GMT -5
It's not just Scholastic that owns HP, Bloomsbury do as well, being the publisher over here in Britain. I don't know what their opinion is, or whether they're getting involved as well, but they probably will, if Scholastic pass the report on. |
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Post by eskimoRock on Aug 19, 2012 16:18:13 GMT -5
Yeah. They can't really informs the non rtb rule in America without enforcing it here too, it wouldn't be fair. If scholastic cracks down on it, bloomsbury will too.
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Post by mountaingirl777 on Aug 19, 2012 16:52:39 GMT -5
you know, I was just thinking. If we continue to fight back, whose to say that the SOPA won't come back to take EVERYTHING away like fanfiction or the youtube vids? I mean really, if they get word (probably have by now and who knows, the people who are doing the purges and such are SOPA people as well) they might really push to get laws into action. We might be hurting more than just ourselves if we keep fighting.
If this doesn't make sense, I'm sorry. I just had this thought and I'm trying to pack to go back home.....
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Post by 19811945 on Aug 19, 2012 17:13:07 GMT -5
All the publishers would need to work together to crackdown on the hp fanfiction in order them to be removed.
If country bans, and rest of the world still has it, then it's not particularly fair for that country with the ban. If one country has, then rest of the world would have the same stance on it.
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Post by lucyolsen on Aug 19, 2012 17:33:23 GMT -5
That doesn't stop some countries from passing copyright law or anti-piracy law even if other countries don't have that law. Scholastic can fight back all on their own, and all the sites that are hosted in America will be caput.
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Post by Kitty279 on Aug 20, 2012 0:23:09 GMT -5
On the other hand, American publishers don't care for copyright that much. I remember an article about their method to publish books still under copyright law in electronic form without even a by-your-leave to the author. Their stance was, if the authors don't like it, they can complain, then they will take the book off, but if the authors don't protest, then they keep selling them.
So, I guess they do what they want and what suits them the best.
Remember, it's not only HP fanfiction that is purged lately, it goes through other fandoms as well. At that rate, FFN is going to go down completely, together with all the other sites. Maybe then the CU is happy when they have no one left to bully any more because all the sites are taken down.
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Post by mountaingirl777 on Aug 20, 2012 0:41:10 GMT -5
On the other hand, American publishers don't care for copyright that much. I remember an article about their method to publish books still under copyright law in electronic form without even a by-your-leave to the author. Their stance was, if the authors don't like it, they can complain, then they will take the book off, but if the authors don't protest, then they keep selling them. So, I guess they do what they want and what suits them the best. Remember, it's not only HP fanfiction that is purged lately, it goes through other fandoms as well. At that rate, FFN is going to go down completely, together with all the other sites. Maybe then the CU is happy when they have no one left to bully any more because all the sites are taken down. heh, it would be interesting if all the site were taken down and all of a sudden the CU and all the other bullies are like "Hey! We didn't mean it! Bring it back!" sometimes a situation like this can put light to somethings for people, like how fun fanfiction can be. I know that I have done some things in the past were I got something taken away because I didn't like it, only to want it back when it was gone because I actually did like it and wanted it. Maybe this will show these people what they were missing while they were bullying. Maybe having fanfiction taken away could be a good thing, if it does get taken....it might not be taken down for long if there is a lot of backlash. |
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Post by Kitty279 on Aug 20, 2012 0:46:47 GMT -5
Yeah, I'd like to see their faces if their little bullying fun went so far out of hand that they suddenly don't have anyone left to bully ... On the one hand, it would be really sad if it got that far. On the other hand, maybe some people need such drastic measures for a wakeup-call. And that includes the FFN administration - that might force them to keep the bullies on a tight leash in the future. No matter how legal or illegal the reported stories are, they should not allow things to get that badly out of hand. A good administration would kick bullies out and not insist that we have to respect them.
Oh well, I guess it's out of our hands already. I keep backing up my favourite stories after every update, just in case, so I can at least re-read them in case the worst is happening.
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Post by mountaingirl777 on Aug 20, 2012 3:07:21 GMT -5
wish I could do that, I have over 400 favs on FFN, a ton more on others! I might be able to save the ones that are completed....
yeah, it could also teach the FFN administration how to take care of their own site as well, by actually enforcing their rules themselves instead of making other people do it. It's their site, a site is almost like a child or a pet....whoever owns it takes care of it. That includes enforcing the rules. You don't push the job of judging or punishing to others, especially to those who might over do it. They don't want something on the site, tell it straight to us, don't make us learn about it through the grapevine. Though it is on the TOS and the guidlines....maybe they shouldn't make it so easy to just glance over (which I did until this situation).
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*facepalms*
