Plotlines & Challenges for the Museless

[lucyolsen]

Well, I think it's fine if they figure it out by book 3. By that point they have read enough that they might be suitably horrified by their own future actions, especially involving the whomping willow incident.

But right, I guess I did forget about physical descriptions. Maybe those can be changed up a bit, too.

[isk2837]

Just a thought re: this challenge - Petunia's name/description would probably have to be changed as well. Her attitude to magic and her relationship with her sister might be passed off as a coincidence by themselves, but add her first name and description and Lily would probably suspect something by the end of the first chapter.

[Silvertongue]

I was thinking that MOST people would need a new name, like Mcgonagall...actually you know what? I'm thinking about it and it just wouldn't work at all. Because with Snape being a git to Harry (and assuming they guess Snape's identity from the description) it would be quite easy to guess who Harry was related to through logic. Yeah, I can't see it working, unless the author is an absolute genius or makes everybody really stupid.

[lucyolsen]

I know it would be difficult, but if we change pretty much everyone's name, and a few physical descriptions, it might work.

I didn't say it would be easy, just interesting.

[Silvertongue]

When would they be told about who they are? Or would they eventually figure it out themselves but not until about book 6 or 7?

[lucyolsen]

I don't know. Remus will certainly figure it out by book 3. But for the other Marauders, they won't figure it out if they don't know that Remus is a werewolf yet (but they will start to have suspicions at that point because all the lame excuses Remus uses for being absent are mentioned in the book)

Sirius will probably figure it out for certain by book 5, based on descriptions of Headquarters and the painting there, and the family tree (the names of some places will need to be changed also, to keep it from being given away outright).

Peter will be in denial for a very long time.

James I'm not too sure of, but Sev might get a teensy bit suspicious because of the memory Harry saw during book 5 (of his parents, not of OWLs - that hasn't happened yet). He and Lily might get more suspicions during book 6 (due to all the talk of Harry's mother being a muggleborn good at potions). They will certainly figure it out during book 7 (it would be impossible not to).

So, in order to pull this off, most names some physical descriptions, and some place names need to be changed.

[Silvertongue]

Hmmm, I want to see this written now. As in right now.

[RogueNya]

Added a new challenge, both here and as a separate challenge post given how extensive is.

[Serena R. Snape]

I just got this idea and had to share it with you. I'd love it if someone took this challenge up and wrote a great fic about it! I would do so myself but I haven't the time at the moment since I'm writing Hoping For a Better Future BOOK TWO at the moment and I like to concentrate on one story at the time - otherwise I tend to overwrite myself. XD

Challenger: Serena R. Snape
Style Notes: Reading the Books, not Rushed
Readers: *insertnamehere* Snape, Lily Snape, Severus Snape
Books: 1-7 if possible
Other Characters: can be decided by the author
Pairings: Snape/Lily, others can be decided by the author
Plot: The reading is set in an AU world where Lily forgave Snape for calling her a Mudblood and Snape never became a Death Eater. It's the "if Snape got a second chance he would have chosen Lily" quote from JKRowling that inspired this. So, they got married and had Harry (though you can name him whatever you want) and they find the books about the other Harry's life to get a glimpse of what would have been if Lily hadn't forgiven Snape.
Accepted: none yet

[RogueNya]

Oooh nicely done, not seen to many of this type done.

[Serena R. Snape]

I posted this challenge a few days ago, but decided to post it in this thread as well, to make sure it was read. XD

[RogueNya]

Oooooh I see ^^

[kumainpink]

Yeah, I posted this somewhere else, but wanted to be sure that people read it.

Challenger: kumainpink

Style Notes: Just three things things: 1) No weepy/overly clingy Harry.

2) Please be cruel to Algie. I hate him with a passion! 3) Please don't skip over issues of child abuse completely.

Readers: Augusta Longbottom, Sirius Black, Remus Lupin and Neville's parents, (mentally healed)

Books: Your choice, though I'd prefer 1-5 at least.

Other Characters: Your choice, but here are some suggestions: Neville, Harry, Amelia, Andromeda, Ted, Dora, Minerva, Filius and Hagrid.

Pairings: Your choice.

Plot: After the events of book 5, with Sirius having somehow survived or come through the Veil. The rest is up to you!

Accepted: None


I think it's a great idea and would love to see it happen...

[RogueNya]

Interesting idea there. It is sad really how those minor yet important characters are overlooked like the Longbottoms, All of them, they just get passing mentions even in the books.

[kumainpink]

Likewise! And Neville is my favorite character, second only to Harry.

[ykickamoocow]

This probably won't be accepted but i hope it is

Challenger: ykickamoocow
Style Notes: Ideally Harry does not tease Hermione like she is his sister because at this point while Harry and Hermione were friends they did not have a friendly teasing sort of relationship. Also ideally no one should refer to Hermione as "Mione".
Readers: Harry, Ron, Hermione, Ginny
Books: Book 6 or Book 7 (or both if you want)
Other Characters: Ideally no more than a few and they have to be of the correct time period
Plot: Set near the start of Goblet of Fire Harry, Ron, Hermione and Ginny are at the Burrow when either books 6 or books 7 (or both) suddenly turn up.
Pairings: Canon with (at the start of GoF) Hermione beginning to realise she has romantic feelings for Ron, Ron caring about Hermione as more than a friend but not realising it, Ginny still with her strong crush on Harry but it is a bit more under control than in CoS and PoA and Harry having no romantic feelings for Ginny at all yet.
Other Notes: Just a general idea of how would early GoF Harry, Ron, Hermione and Ginny react to reading about the events in HBP or DH's (or both).
Accepted: None

Thanks for reading and even considering writing it.

[RogueNya]

Interesting idea ^^

[RogueNya]

Made a new one, but not sure about posting it on here given I already have one somewhat similar already posted, so just putting the link here for it..

Harry Potter and The Mummy

[lucyolsen]

Jun 16, 2012 18:57:50 GMT -5 lucyolsen said:

I don't know. Remus will certainly figure it out by book 3. But for the other Marauders, they won't figure it out if they don't know that Remus is a werewolf yet (but they will start to have suspicions at that point because all the lame excuses Remus uses for being absent are mentioned in the book)

Sirius will probably figure it out for certain by book 5, based on descriptions of Headquarters and the painting there, and the family tree (the names of some places will need to be changed also, to keep it from being given away outright).

Peter will be in denial for a very long time.

James I'm not too sure of, but Sev might get a teensy bit suspicious because of the memory Harry saw during book 5 (of his parents, not of OWLs - that hasn't happened yet). He and Lily might get more suspicions during book 6 (due to all the talk of Harry's mother being a muggleborn good at potions). They will certainly figure it out during book 7 (it would be impossible not to).

So, in order to pull this off, most names some physical descriptions, and some place names need to be changed.

Oh, I've been an idiot. Regarding my own challenge, where the names and descriptions of all the characters were changed, so the readers don't actually know they are reading about their future, I thought that James might never figure it out, because there was nothing in the books that was specifically relating to his background.

But of course, James would be the first one to figure it out, as a soon as Harry get's his Christmas present in first year!

Maybe though, it would only make him heavily suspect it, and the thing that would cinch it would be book 7. Hide the titles from the readers to keep from giving away the plots, and he won't know for certain until the trio start seeing the DH symbol around and talk to Xeno Lovegood.


Peter, though, I still don't see figuring anything out. We don't really ever learn anything about him or his background in the books, other than him being a rat, which Peter himself doesn't even know at that point.

Everyone else, though, will have figured out that it must have been him who betrayed them, based on his relationships with them. Whatever they decide to do about it would be up to the writer (even though this will probably never get written).

[sherza]

James would figure it out the minute Harry was described, unless you changed it. Messy black hair just like his dad's? Yeah, honking great clue there.

Honestly, there's so many descriptions throughout the books that would make certain peoples' identities a dead giveaway (Most of the teachers, Harry, Fudge ((that hat of his)), Umbridge). People in the wizarding world seem to have a 'signature look' that doesn't change over time, either their physical looks or their dress style, or sometimes both.

[RogueNya]

Only way to do it would just not describe the characters or key items like the cloak, but then you would have to ignore all of DH given the Hallows are kinda the point of it.

[lucyolsen]

The point isn't that we NEVER want them to figure it out. We want them to figure it out, but only after they have badmouthed themselves for their own actions. So the DH stay, because after reading 7 books, that will be what finally clues James in.

Most character names and descriptions would need to be changed, and a couple place names (like "Grimmauld" - Sirius would be able to figure it out very shortly after it is mentioned based on the physical description of the place and discussions about the family tree and the painting, but we don't want his friends going "hey isn't that your address?")

I also just thought that if there were only one name to keep, it would be Tom Marvolo Riddle/Voldemort. Someone might recognize the name from the service award, and this tells the readers that the books are actually real, because if they think they are reading fiction, they won't look for ever see how the books connect to their own lives.

Either that will work, or they can be told up front that the books are real by whatever method is used to get them the books and make them read. The readers might wonder, "why us?" but maybe they can be made to think that other people are reading in small groups elsewhere (this would be a lie).


I've summarized where each of the readers would figure it out. First listed is when they would become suspicious, and second book listed is when they would know for sure.

James: 1,7
Remus: 3
Sirius: 5
Peter: Never

Severus: 5,7
Lily: 6,7

[Ithiarel]

Just wanted to tell you:
I've started filling RogueNya's challenge for a "Founders read" Fic.

The Founders at Hogwarts

Have fun reading, and tell me what you think. ;D

[Dimcairien]

I just started kuminpinks challenge and here's the link.

readingthehpbooks.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=dumbledorepropaganda

[RogueNya]

Added the link to the challenge ^^

[kumainpink]

Yay!