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Post by Kitty279 on Feb 26, 2015 14:21:47 GMT -5
Such a behaviour is indeed completely OOC for Harry. Malfoy, I can totally see doing it, but not Harry. And Hermione would throw a fit, too. Leaves me more wondering about the author ...
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Post by Miss Wings on Feb 26, 2015 17:27:44 GMT -5
Personally I think of Florean's Summer as an attempt to fatten Harry up a little, or maybe he was friends with his Grandfather etc.
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Post by Kitty279 on Feb 27, 2015 1:16:28 GMT -5
Plus, the way gossip works and how many people come to such a shop in summer, Florean might have heard just *why* Harry spent the rest of the holidays in Diagon Alley and did not think it was right he had to live with such nasty people. Another reason to spoil him a little.
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Post by Miss Wings on Feb 27, 2015 9:30:05 GMT -5
It would be nice if someone did a little one shot of that, what Florean was thinking of any rumours, if he did know the Potter's, thinking Harry was far too skinny etc.
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Post by RandomPasserby on Mar 4, 2015 8:51:29 GMT -5
Here's a strange pet peeve. Orphanages.
Tom Riddle was in one in the 1920's and 30's, true, but by the 80's, 90's and 2000's they were defunct. Group foster homes exist but they aren't called orphanages and they don't provide the same function.
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Post by Miss Wings on Mar 5, 2015 11:41:33 GMT -5
True, my Nanna had been in Nazareth Children's Home in Middlesbrough.
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Post by Kitty279 on Mar 6, 2015 1:33:53 GMT -5
It's fascinating what little details one can learn when talking about fanfiction. That's not something you learn from your average guide.
Right now my biggest pet peeve is these idiots who flame stories for no good reason, just so they can feel better about themselves after putting others down. Even worse is it when their hate puts new authors who actually write rather well off writing and hurts them. I really wish FFN would come down hard on these, but there's no hope, sadly.
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Post by melodypottersnape on Mar 25, 2015 11:55:25 GMT -5
I mean it's like they have no self control. I mean I've had to back out of some terrible fics before. I mean there are ones out there that would make you absolutely gag. I read one where everyone talked like some preteen at their first slumber party. I mean if I can read that crap and back out while holding my tongue then I'm sure others can who just hate a pairing or genderswap or whatever else they feel entitled to bully about. My pet peeve right now is forcing myself to read fics that have great plot ideas but there is something hinky about there writing style that doesn't make it as enjoyable as you want. Like there is a writer called SpeedyTomato whose ideas I love. I love how in one story Harry leaves Britain or how in another a group of people were bonded due to a spell mutating in the wards. I mean I just love their ideas but every story has the same phrases and each chapter will repeat those phrases. I mean some of the problem the characters refer to their actions in dialogue form instead of having them doing it. I mean people do that but not for over half their actions. But the main thing is the writer constantly has someone say how difficult everything is and how they need to deal with it. I'm still not explaining it right. Anyways the writer has good plot ideas and grammerwise the writer isn't doing anything wrong. And everything is written rather well it's just there is just something that makes it I guess a little uncomfortable to read. Maybe you all can tell me what is or if it's just me lol. Draco What have you done: hp.adult-fanfiction.org/story.php?no=600097882 Draco gets harry with potion that will bond him to whoever his magic is similar to his if he has met him other wise he'll die. He ends up bonded to Sirius and Voldemort. Hidden Truths: hp.adult-fanfiction.org/story.php?no=600097754 Harry and Bill are in a secret relationship until a spell hits grimmualds wards and mutates to bind everyone in the house to the person closest to them. So Bill, Harry, and Sirius are bound together. George/Snape/Fred are bound. Lucius/Remus. and Charlie/Draco. If This is How You Treat Your Heroes: hp.adult-fanfiction.org/story.php?no=600097754 Harry has an alliance with Voldy and after handling two years of umbridge Snape raping him is the last straw. So Lucius smuggles him to france and Britain gets a smackdown after their treatment and crimes against Harry.
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Post by Kitty279 on Mar 31, 2015 10:32:57 GMT -5
I think in nearly every story you will find something, big or small, you do not like; it's inevitable. It's then up to you if you can ignore that or if it disturbs you enough to stop reading.
Sorry, but one look at the pairings of the stories you linked to was enough to make me recoil. I don't read pairings with the Malfoys, Snape and Voldemort *shudder*
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Post by RandomPasserby on Apr 1, 2015 14:27:30 GMT -5
Every story with the obligatory Harry-goes-on-a-clothes-shopping-trip including a female character where the (usually male) author starts making jokes which revolve around women liking to clothes shop. Partially because it often includes characters who've shown little to no canononical desire to clothes shop but mostly because the generalisation of 'they're female therefore they must like clothes shopping' annoys me. I know I said it before but I'm saying it again because I've just read yet another story by yet another adult male author with this in it and I just want to shout 'not all teenage girls enjoy clothes shopping'. I think what gets me the most is the fact that they're dressing someone else, usually without Harry's express wish. It's just sort of expected. Most people are comfortable buying clothes for themselves but that doesn't automatically follow that they can, want to or are willing to buy them for someone else. I know personally, if it was a very very good friend who asked, I'd give advice but I certainly wouldn't be picking things out going 'wear this' or 'no you can't wear that' because, as far as I'm concerned, so long as you're happy with what you're wearing, fuck everyone else.
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Post by physicssquid on Apr 1, 2015 19:40:43 GMT -5
I totally agree.
That's partly why, if I ever write the obligatory 'Harry goes on a shopping trip' and I happen to include a female character, I'll either have her suggesting that certain colours would or would not suit him, or keeping him organised by using a list to show what he needs, and then ticking each item off as he picks it up.
And on a similar note, why do many authors need to describe every single inch of an outfit worn by each character? I wouldn't, I'd leave it to the reader to imagine what a character is wearing without making them think of particular clothes, unless the situation in the scene required a certain outfit, such as a uniform, in which case I would give a, quite possibly vague description, since I'm not actually very good at describing things.
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Post by Kitty279 on Apr 4, 2015 1:42:41 GMT -5
Yeah, I would not buy clothes for anyone, either. Not just due to taste, but more size as well. The most I have done so far was, when I went with a friend and she tried on a t-shirt, to say that I don't think that neckline looks good, it was way too deep for her, though the colour was totally her style. And knowing that I usually don't say anything, she took my opinion into account, looked into the mirror again a bit more critically and agreed with me. And many years ago I talked my Mum into buying a coat that looked beautiful on her, and she was later glad I did. But that's about all I ever did.
What annoys me the most are the stories where the women/girls just take over any decision and Harry (for which the clothes are in most cases, right?) has no say in it. He never got anything new while at the Dursleys, just Dudley's oversized rags, and then the authors go on and have him equally forced straight away into clothes he never chose and think that is all right. Why not let him try stuff on and discuss with him *then* if something looks good on him? The girls don't know if he has good taste in clothing or not, they just try to force their own ideas on him. It's bad enough with other boys, but with Harry, who was manipulated and bossed around all his life, it annoys the heck out of me. He needs to be allowed his own choices, and I am still waiting for a story where he stands up to all these bossy women and tells them firmly that it's his money and his clothes and he decides what he wants and they need to shut up.
I can see describing the clothes a bit more for a special occasion, like the Yule ball, but otherwise, I am not that interested in it, either. Helping along the imagination a bit by mentioning "he wore a new blue robe" or something along that line now and then, okay, but that is about as much as I need. And I certainly don't need that at every turn.
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Post by physicssquid on Apr 4, 2015 20:29:21 GMT -5
www.fanfiction.net/s/11145267/1/revelabit-the-secrets-of-HogwartsThis has got to be one of the most confusing stories I've ever tried, and even worse, all eight of the people who'd reviewed it last time I looked, said it was good and wanted more. How the hell could they understand such garbage? The author uses the present tense, and first person, switching from one person's point of view to another, without much in the way of warning. The plot, on the whole, seems as though it might be reasonable, if only it had been written better.
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Post by Kitty279 on Apr 5, 2015 14:29:26 GMT -5
To me not even the title makes any sense. Revelabit? Is that supposed to mean Reveal?
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Post by RandomPasserby on Apr 13, 2015 2:43:05 GMT -5
Have you ever encountered an author where you're like 'I enjoy your story but hot damn you're a pretentious motherfucker'. I mean I love Sympathetic Properties by Mr Norrell but reading his profile is like 'dude, you're posting fanfic juuuuuust the same as the rest of us'. Also namedropping someone whose story you hate and consider badly written (and fucking linking to it) is just not on.
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Post by Kitty279 on Apr 13, 2015 14:06:30 GMT -5
After skimming over his/her profile, I was shaking my head. Pretentious, indeed. That one seems to 'know' all about writing, huh?
So far I have only seen people recomment stories, not telling people which they hate. But personally, I'd prefer to just forget stories I don't like. Where's the use in complaining in your own stories? Either it's bad, then stop reading, or you read it anyway, then you have no right to complain.
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Post by RandomPasserby on Apr 18, 2015 13:14:54 GMT -5
It could be short for Lillian, yes, but you'd think someone would have told Harry that, do you? Of course, they all neglected to tell him anything useful beyond 'you look like your father, but have your mother's eys', so, who knows? And considering how many fanfictions turn Harry's first name to Harrison or Hadrian or something like that, many seem to feel Harry has to be a short form as well. This is a bit odd and out of the blue but whenever I see fanfics where Harry is short for Harrison or whatever I wonder why I have yet to come across any where Harry is short for the blindingly obvious one. Henry. I mean literally, Prince Harry (who was born four years after Harry Potter), is actually Henry and he's probably one of the more visible Harry's.
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Post by Kitty279 on Apr 18, 2015 15:09:47 GMT -5
For that, I have two guesses: Because many wouldn't see a five-letter-word as a shortening of a five-letter word, and because most rather tend to blow up his name to make him more important. Harrison and Hadrian sound more pompous, at least to me. Not to mention the last name. How many people have you seen who made Harry Lord Potter-Black-Gryffindor-Hufflepuff-Ravenclaw-Slytherin-Peverell-Emrys- and I have forgotten the rest. No mere Henry can keep up with that, right?
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Post by RandomPasserby on Apr 18, 2015 18:25:51 GMT -5
It might just be that I've dealt with all eight Henry's and I'm rather fond of them (in the way that one can be fond of morally iffy dead people) but, while Harrison and Hadrian might sound more pompous Henry has far more dignity to it. (Plus, when I hear Hadrian I think of the wall and the emperor)
Mostly because it's the sort of old-school name that British nobility have used in front of names which can have treble-barrelled surnames and then a list of titles which, in a formal setting, can be longer than the ones you listed. Also, y'know, eight kings and innumerable princes.
(and I looked at the data, Harrison peaked in 1888 but is really in fashion right now. Actually, in 1980 Harrison was at its lowest popularity. So I guess with the visibility of it currently, it really doesn't feel like a kid born in 1980 would have it as a name)
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Post by Kitty279 on Apr 19, 2015 1:13:40 GMT -5
Sure, I understand your POV, but the people giving Harry these names are usually most definitely don't go for dignity, they want it to sound pompous and important.
You have to remember that most of these who write that don't do their research properly. If they send Harry to school with MP3 player, laptop and iPhone in 1991, how can you expect them to consider which names were 'in' in 1980?
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Post by physicssquid on Apr 19, 2015 11:25:28 GMT -5
I think a lot of these writers, who do things like that, are teenagers who cannot imagine life without their expensive advanced gadgets, and therefore they think those things have been around since the beginning of time. Either that, or they're lazy sods who set their stories in the year they're writing about, completely ignoring the original books, and without even warning their readers that they've moved the storyline forward a few decades.
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Post by Kitty279 on Apr 19, 2015 14:01:05 GMT -5
That was my conclusion as well - they haven't known times where all that stuff wasn't even invented yet, never mind available to everyone, so they just can't imagine they exist. But many say it is 1991, and then use technology from the 2010's *sigh* Honestly, look around you, people are clinging to their smartphones as if it was a lifeline, always typing on them, not watching where they walk ... take these toys away from them, and I doubt they would know how to entertain themselves.
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Post by physicssquid on Apr 19, 2015 22:25:53 GMT -5
They probably wouldn't. And doesn't that just make those of us who don't have, and probably don't necessarily want such high-tech gadgets, feel old?
I may only be twenty-six but even I feel a little old when confronted by a teen that can't seem to live without his/her iphone or ipad. But, that said, I doubt I could cope easily without my one terabyte external hard-drive, holding all my music and backup documents, and I'm sure I would have difficulty relaxing without my mp3 player, so I can understand the need to have high-tech gadgets.
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Post by Kitty279 on Apr 20, 2015 3:31:20 GMT -5
Well, I *am* old - actually, nearly twice your age Yeah, I would find it hard to go without my laptop, too, but that's partly because it is my main way of communication with people not in the same place. And I have had a smartphone only for a year now, and even that only because I had to give up my old cell phone after about 14 years. Yes, I was still using an antique But I have only a minimum of necessary apps, mostly for checking train times, weather etc. Otherwise it's just a way for communication, too, and to read now and then when I don't have a book available or something like that.
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Post by Miss Wings on Apr 21, 2015 10:34:01 GMT -5
Personally I myself have been going absolutely crazy in my attempts at finding an old fan fiction without much luck.
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Post by Kitty279 on Apr 21, 2015 13:51:46 GMT -5
If it's a HP one, you can always ask in the appropriate thread, maybe someone recognises it and can help you find it again?
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Post by Miss Wings on Apr 25, 2015 7:47:32 GMT -5
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Post by physicssquid on Apr 25, 2015 8:29:07 GMT -5
I suppose, for the sake of that story, then her date of birth could have been adjusted by the author. But, I do think the author should have put a warning in the summary, saying it was AU, with certain people's ages changed.
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Post by RandomPasserby on Apr 25, 2015 13:07:14 GMT -5
Also that's a hell of an age adjustment. Usually if they fiddle with Tonks' age it's to make her a little younger so she's in Hogwarts with Harry (which, ironically, according to his canon birthdate, Charlie Weasley should have been). Not old enough to be an auror when Harry was born.
Which means either Andromeda had a kid when she was about seven or somebody did not think things through.
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Post by Kitty279 on Apr 25, 2015 13:14:00 GMT -5
I vote for the latter, or they never even had a look at the dates on the family tree.
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