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Post by brokenquill92 on Jul 20, 2012 18:46:43 GMT -5
I'm thinking what happened to Ariana Dumbledore was rape it doesn't say in Deathly Hallows I'm curious to what everyone else thinks
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Post by G. Novella on Jul 20, 2012 18:49:53 GMT -5
Well, assuming she was around eight/nine at the time, I think she was most likely severely beaten up by the older boys. I wouldn't say rape because the boys were frightened of her and wanted to stop her, not overpower or use her sexually. They most likely beat her to the point of near death and used things like rocks and sticks to add to the injury.
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Post by Nahara46 on Jul 20, 2012 18:49:55 GMT -5
As much as I hate to admit is, as she was only 6 at the time, I've always thought it was rape. What her father did to them for it was much to kind...
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 20, 2012 18:59:31 GMT -5
I agree that it was rape. Not because I'm sadistic enough to wish it, but because that is what I thought while first reading DH. The clues just screamed rape to me.  |
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Post by lucyolsen on Jul 20, 2012 19:44:30 GMT -5
I never thought it was anything other than some teenagers beating her up after seeing her do accidental magic. This is why she tried so hard to suppress her magic afterwards, because she blamed it for what happened to her.
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Post by physicssquid on Jul 20, 2012 20:05:00 GMT -5
I never thought she was raped either. The book never mentioned how old the boys were, so it is unlikely that they were old enough to even think about raping someone, let alone a six-year-old girl.
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Post by dracosfairmaiden on Jul 21, 2012 15:30:29 GMT -5
I never thought of it as rape before. In mind, they were beating her up and mocking her. They probably just humiliated her daily until her father snapped. If it was rape, then I'm open to the idea; I just never considered it rape.
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Post by Chameleon on Jul 21, 2012 16:03:01 GMT -5
I've never thought of it as rape either. I've always thought that they saw her, and then wanted to tease her, and make her do it again, and when she perhaps couldn't do it again, they beat her up, and she returned home broken. Six-year old are easily broken on that way, when her parents saw her that way, her father snapped and killed these boys... That's what I imagine happened.
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Post by G. Novella on Jul 21, 2012 16:08:43 GMT -5
He probably passed that temper to Aberforth, who seems like the type to snap easily.
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Post by blackroses77 on Jul 21, 2012 16:08:45 GMT -5
I don't think she was just beaten I don't think even the most severe beating could have broken her mind the way it seemed to be in the book. And as disgusting as it is to think about there have been cases of young teens and preteens molesting and even raping younger children so it could of happened to Arianna. I try not to think about it or look deeper than what was described in the book but yeah for as damaged as she was it had to be more than being beaten.
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Post by physicssquid on Jul 21, 2012 16:09:15 GMT -5
I've never thought of it as rape either. I've always thought that they saw her, and then wanted to tease her, and make her do it again, and when she perhaps couldn't do it again, they beat her up, and she returned home broken. Six-year old are easily broken on that way, when her parents saw her that way, her father snapped and killed these boys... That's what I imagine happened. I agree. Ariana would have been even more broken and traumatised if she had been raped at the age of six, so much so that she'd probably have been almost catatonic, and not be able to function normally, which Aberforth said she did occasionally, helping him look after the goats. |
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Post by Chameleon on Jul 21, 2012 16:12:28 GMT -5
Yeah. She seemed like a gentle soul, who got easily broken. I don't say everyone get easily broken as six-year old, but she seemed pretty vulnerable to me, and therefore easier to break. I think both Albus and Aberforth got that temper, just that Albus managed to control it. I mean... he dreamed of being the next Muggle lord after all, so he must have some anger, but not just that kind snapping thing.
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Post by teflonbilly on Jul 21, 2012 23:48:47 GMT -5
Sorry, but while I will agree that whatever trauma that she suffered was severe, I just don't feel that she was raped.
People can suffer permanent psychological breakdowns (and in this case an arcane breakdown) over mere physical trauma.
I feel that from how the books describe it, Ariana was beaten (possibly quite severely) and this coupled with might have already been a weak mental balance (her brother Aberforth all but implied that she was delicate) she spiralled out down into an ever deepening levels of mental illness coupled with extremely dangerous magical repression syndrome.
And to put my own blunt two cents in, not every trauma a woman suffers has to be sexual for it to be terrible. I find it topically cheap and cliche to assume that only rape could lead to a person suffering permenant psychological harm.
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