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Post by Miss Wings on Mar 27, 2014 17:01:33 GMT -5
If Hermione is a Muggleborn then why was she so scared of saying Voldemort? I'd understand if it was Hitler or something as she grew up knowing about him, she never knew about Voldemort at all. Her books always said "You Know Who" or "He who must not be named" but being friends with Harry she'd have know that his name was Voldemort until 2nd year when it became Tom.
Why?!
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Post by Kitty279 on Mar 28, 2014 1:27:29 GMT -5
Some book probably told her that she has to be afraid of the name - and Hermione believes everything the textbook tells her.
But I admit, that's another thing that never made much sense. The purebloods and magical-raised halfbloods, I understand. But the muggleborn and muggle-raised halfbloods?? And these probably don't read that much and should know better. Besides, no one ever avoided saying Hitler, Stalin or whatever tyrant was there, so why the muggleborn start that rubbish, too, I will never understand.
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Post by Miss Wings on Mar 28, 2014 12:22:27 GMT -5
Unless there was a spell but that wouldn't explain Harry being able to say it would it?
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Post by Kitty279 on Mar 28, 2014 16:16:06 GMT -5
No, and we know others did it, too - some in the Order, at least.
I've seen the idea that not saying the name was the result of a taboo on the name during the first war, but that doesn't work for me. In PS Dumbledore already told Minerva to use it, a day after Voldemort vanished. If there was a taboo, then it would have been beyond stupid to use the name at once again. And again, it would only cover the Purebloods, not the Muggleborns.
That whole not saying the name doesn't make too much sense to me. What purpose does it have for Voldemort to give himself such a name and then no one is allowed to use it? And why on earth refuse they to use it in the first place? It's too silly how thousands of adult and *armed* wizards and witches cower before a terrorist and his relatively small group of followers. I wonder what JKR thought when she invented that.
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Post by RandomPasserby on Mar 29, 2014 7:40:02 GMT -5
If mudblood is the slur Hermione can reclaim then Voldemort is the one she (initially) shouldn't.
Voldemort as a name represents a war she doesn't know or understand. Dumbledore fought Voldemort, Harry lost both parents to him. Them challenging things by saying 'Voldemort' is acceptable because their lives have been touched by the damage he did. Her life (at least in the first few books) hasn't been. If she'd walked in to the magical world at eleven and started spouting off about 'Voldemort' that would likely have been offensive to people who'd lost family in the first war because it trivialises what happened to them.
To use real world analogies. I'm white, therefore I cannot reclaim race-based insults. It is not OK for me to use those words because they've never affected my life. As a fat, neuroatypical, queer person there are insults I can reclaim personally because they've been used against me. But if somebody else who is fat or neuroatypical or queer doesn't want to reclaim them, then that's their choice.
As for why other muggleborns/muggle raised half bloods don't use it. I'm going to go with a combination of ignorance and peer pressure. If textbooks use You Know Who or He Who Must Not Be Named they might not know who Voldemort was. If they do then the fact that nobody else uses it probably makes them wary of doing so.
I can understand the idea of having a name which can't be said. It's bringing the war into people's homes and it's a way of keeping Voldemort in the public consciousness for the next generation (parents teaching kids not to say Voldemort). It also demonstrates how powerful Voldemort is 'I'm so scary people can't even say my name'.
All I can think of is 9/11. A terrorist and a relatively small group of followers did something which changed air travel in the long term. Look at airports now as opposed to airports in the 90's.
Also while witches and wizards might be armed, so are the DE's and the DE's aren't as limited in terms of what curses they'll use.
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Post by physicssquid on Mar 29, 2014 19:25:52 GMT -5
The magical world is made up of sheep. And the simple fact that quite a lot of the Death Eater attacks left no survivors, led the magical population to believe that Voldemort and his minions, were like bogeymen. To Hermione, who believed everything she read in books, the fact that she didn't use Voldemort's name implies that one of her books mentioned that the name shouldn't be used, and the fact that I doubt the books would be immune from that fear, even in writing, suggests, to me, that she would believe that no one in the magical world would ever dare use the name, therefore she shouldn't either. Though, that doesn't explain why she never scolded Harry when he used it, like Ron did. After all, she believed everything she read, and if the books won't use the name, doesn't that automatically mean, in her opinion anyway, that no one should say Voldemort's name?
There's also the fact that most witches and wizards seem lazy. As far as I can tell, the only people in the magical world who do any sort of physical training, are Aurors, who should be fit and healthy; and Quidditch players, who don't seem to do much more than practise flying, tossing a quaffle to each other, hitting bludgers and looking for the snitch. It seems to me that magical people rely on their magic for pretty much everything, so most would be unable to last long in a fight. Even the Death Eaters only seem to get exercise when they occasionally dodge curses, but because they have no moral limits to the curses they use, the very sight of them could paralyse their victims, making it easier for them to get the job done.
Things might have been different if the Death Eaters hadn't infiltrated certain parts of the Ministry, thereby effectively hampering the ability of the Aurors to get to attack sites quickly enough to have a chance of saving innocents.
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Post by ChickenOrder on Jul 5, 2015 7:34:38 GMT -5
When in Rome, do as Romans do.
I think this saying is very apt in this situation. Muggleborns who were indoctrinated into the Wizarding World seemed happy enough to cut their ties to the Muggle World. Adopting such things as "You-Know-Who" is not that far fetched. Also children are easily influenced, especially when scared.
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