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Post by dracosfairmaiden on Jun 27, 2012 8:09:28 GMT -5
Another peeve of mine was the HBP movie didn't show enough of Voldemort's memories. I guess there were too many of them in the book so they had to cut them out.
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Post by eskimoRock on Jun 27, 2012 8:23:49 GMT -5
I hated how they completely left out the Regalus story! that was so beautiful in the book.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jun 27, 2012 9:55:24 GMT -5
Don't we all wish they'd taken a leaf out of Peter Jackson's book? I mean, he filmed all three Lord of the Rings movies at the same time, AND made an Extended Edition that was entirely from the book. I really love LOTR movies. Oh, another fan!  You know, after seeing the LotR movies, I couldn't watch HP any more. Peter added some stuff, yes, but the longer parts he cut I could understand, and his reasons for some of the changes. Beyond that, he kept so close to the books, and the visuals left me drooling. When I, who usually starts fidgeting after an hour or so, can watch all three movies back to back, that says a lot. They did what?? Oh no! Really, the more I read here, the more I am determined to never watch the movies. Seems really way too long, considering how much they had to cover. Too much weight on the action, obviously. |
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Post by blackroses77 on Jun 27, 2012 10:29:56 GMT -5
I stopped buying the movies after the 4th one, although my mom didn't know I was protesting the dvd's and bought me the fifth I refuse to buy any more dvd's until they give us the equivalent to the lotr book edition dvds. I taped PS and CoS off abc family with all the deleted scenes added into the movie and I won't watch any version but them. It is ridiculous that they haven't given us true extended versions yet (I don't consider their Ultimate Editions to be worth crap since they didn't really add in deleted scenes). And in an interview one of the director's (don't remember which) said there hadn't been enough left on the cutting room floor to add back into the movies  Do they think we are stupid! There are always hours of footage left on the cutting room floor  I think eventually they will bring out true extended versions but not until they feel every one has bought all the other versions of the movies. It is a complete rip off and money making scheme especially as I just found out the other day that you can't even get the bonus features for DH2 unless you buy the blueray. WHO THE HELL CAN AFFORD THE BLUERAY!! It is complete BS and I am dissappointed that JKR would allow her fans to be treated this way. HP is for everyone not just those who are lucky enough to be able to afford it. |
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Post by Kitty279 on Jun 27, 2012 10:52:12 GMT -5
IAnd in an interview one of the director's (don't remember which) said there hadn't been enough left on the cutting room floor to add back into the movies Do they think we are stupid! There are always hours of footage left on the cutting room floor Indeed. One of the actors of LotR (Sean Astin?) once said they could have made 5 movies to 5 hours each with all the material they filmed. So why should the HP makers not have anything leftover? Sounds like it, but I am not sure how much influence JKR has over that part. It's a decision of Warner, I suspect, and it would be possible that they just paid a certain sum for the film rights, the merchandise and whatever they come up with, and that's it, she doesn't have too much to say now. Some input into details of the films, maybe, but I somehow doubt she can control much of what Warner does. |
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Post by lrthunder on Jun 27, 2012 11:01:05 GMT -5
IAnd in an interview one of the director's (don't remember which) said there hadn't been enough left on the cutting room floor to add back into the movies Do they think we are stupid! There are always hours of footage left on the cutting room floor Indeed. One of the actors of LotR (Sean Astin?) once said they could have made 5 movies to 5 hours each with all the material they filmed. So why should the HP makers not have anything leftover? Sounds like it, but I am not sure how much influence JKR has over that part. It's a decision of Warner, I suspect, and it would be possible that they just paid a certain sum for the film rights, the merchandise and whatever they come up with, and that's it, she doesn't have too much to say now. Some input into details of the films, maybe, but I somehow doubt she can control much of what Warner does. She was able to get the producers to include Kreacher in the Order of the Phoenix film because of his involvement in Deathly Hallows. |
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Post by Kitty279 on Jun 27, 2012 11:08:14 GMT -5
She was able to get the producers to include Kreacher in the Order of the Phoenix film because of his involvement in Deathly Hallows. If I'm not mistaken, they were filming OotP before DH came out? So they couldn't know he was going to be important and might have welcomed the hint, as otherwise they would have made filming DH harder. However, I doubt she had influence over what DVDs are released. |
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Post by Silvertongue on Jun 27, 2012 11:09:58 GMT -5
I would love the films to be remade, using the books as scripts and not caring how long the film ended up being. I'd watch those films.
I've bought or been given every DVD, don't have a Blueray copy of any but I could get them if I really wanted to.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jun 27, 2012 11:17:45 GMT -5
That time limit on films is sometimes so annoying, isn't it? Had the same problem with LotR, these could have been so much longer. Oh well, I'm thankful we got the three movies and then the EE, as initially Miramax had only planned to make two movies and then got cold feet and wanted to cut it into one - which would have ruined it. Luckily Peter said no and talked them into putting the project into that turnabout which gave him the chance to get New Line on board ...
After seeing LotR and comparing it with the bit I had seen of HP, I said after the first two movies already I hope one day someone is doing a remake who is as much of a fan of HP as Peter was of LotR and puts an equal effort into the work.
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Post by Silvertongue on Jun 27, 2012 11:22:01 GMT -5
So do I. Me and my friends wanted to do one ourselves for a laugh were we stuck EXACTLY to what the book says. Obviously there would be no special effects and any costumes we used would be pathetic but it would be fun to do.
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Post by Serena R. Snape on Jun 27, 2012 11:40:40 GMT -5
lol, I remember watching an interview on the DVD of Extended Edition of the Fellowship of the Ring, where Jackson said that he was surprised when New Line people said to make three movies, and not two as he originally proposed. He was over the moon.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jun 27, 2012 11:52:06 GMT -5
Ah yes. Best decision Bob Shaye ever made! That way they had to cut less out and could add more stuff. Add to that his decision to have all these props hand-made and show all these tiny details ... I know after HP I was so sceptical if there was any way to make a halfway decent movie of LotR, seeing that it was even more complex than HP. Then I watched FotR, saw Gandalf drive his cart into the Shire, saw Hobbiton and Bag End - and knew it would be right. It looked so perfect ...
With LotR to measure up to, I guess I could never really love the HP films.
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Post by lrthunder on Jun 27, 2012 12:42:28 GMT -5
She was able to get the producers to include Kreacher in the Order of the Phoenix film because of his involvement in Deathly Hallows. If I'm not mistaken, they were filming OotP before DH came out? So they couldn't know he was going to be important and might have welcomed the hint, as otherwise they would have made filming DH harder. However, I doubt she had influence over what DVDs are released. That's true, but it's still an example of how Rowling was able to exercise some control over the production of the films. Another example, if I remember correctly, was the director of the Prisoner of Azkaban wanted to put a graveyard on the grounds of Hogwarts, but she nixed that idea. |
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Post by lrthunder on Jun 27, 2012 12:43:38 GMT -5
That time limit on films is sometimes so annoying, isn't it? Had the same problem with LotR, these could have been so much longer. Oh well, I'm thankful we got the three movies and then the EE, as initially Miramax had only planned to make two movies and then got cold feet and wanted to cut it into one - which would have ruined it. Luckily Peter said no and talked them into putting the project into that turnabout which gave him the chance to get New Line on board ... After seeing LotR and comparing it with the bit I had seen of HP, I said after the first two movies already I hope one day someone is doing a remake who is as much of a fan of HP as Peter was of LotR and puts an equal effort into the work. That's one of the problems with the movies: so many different directors. |
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Post by Kitty279 on Jun 27, 2012 12:48:51 GMT -5
That's true, but it's still an example of how Rowling was able to exercise some control over the production of the films. Another example, if I remember correctly, was the director of the Prisoner of Azkaban wanted to put a graveyard on the grounds of Hogwarts, but she nixed that idea. God, what use would a graveyard at a school be? And what had a graveyard to do with PoA? Doesn't make much sense. At least she seems to have prevented that. Would have ruined GoF, wouldn't it? |
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Post by blackroses77 on Jun 27, 2012 13:16:11 GMT -5
Yeah the graveyard would have made no sense. I am 99.9% positive that she had the stipulation that she maintained creative control and could say what would and would not be in the films in order for the movies to be made, that was the only way she was going to allow the films to be made. Sooo...what the hell was she thinking when they made 4-6! And since she maintained creative control I'm sure she could have stepped in and said, no, all bonus material will be availabe to everyone not just blueray and, it's JKR, I'm sure if she pushed hard enough they would make extended versions. I mean she must have a lot of pull with WB especially if they want the movie rights to any future books she writes.
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Post by teehee100 on Jul 9, 2012 11:42:16 GMT -5
I didn't like the fact that in DH part 2 they had Harry run into Ron and Hermione before he goes off to "die". I just can't see them letting him go. Oh and here's a question, how did movie Neville know to kill th snake? Major pothole in my opinion.
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Post by eskimoRock on Jul 9, 2012 11:52:56 GMT -5
He didn't know to kill it, but it was about to kill Ron and Hermione so he ran forwards to save his friends.
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Post by physicssquid on Jul 9, 2012 11:54:10 GMT -5
Here's another problem. Why did the director have Harry fling himself and Voldemort off that tower?
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Post by eskimoRock on Jul 9, 2012 11:55:44 GMT -5
Because he's a stupid idiot who wanted to make everything more dramatic and fill time.
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Post by Miss Wings on Jul 9, 2012 12:00:57 GMT -5
The dance- what was the point of it? We could have had a better scene.
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Post by blackroses77 on Jul 9, 2012 12:14:44 GMT -5
Awww! I loved the dance scene it was beautiful and sweet. They could have cut how long they had Harry and Voldie flying threw the air after jumping, then they could have added something else.
I also like that they made the ending more dramatic, the ending JKR gave was just so anti-climatic I mean really one fired expeliarmus and the war is done o.O no mega fight between Voldie and Harry?
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Post by Miss Wings on Jul 9, 2012 12:19:00 GMT -5
could have added the death of fred.i truly do think that it would have been a great scene..
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Post by 19811945 on Jul 9, 2012 12:21:39 GMT -5
The band/band in the film for GoF is not what I expected. I expected it to be more... extravagant. Like the fairy tale balls you meant to get.
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Post by teehee100 on Jul 9, 2012 19:45:08 GMT -5
While I would have liked for Fred's death seen to be there, I can imagine it would have been hard on the actors. As for everything else...there is a really long list. Although there is a great tumblr called "shit the movies forgot". That has some good ones.
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Post by blackroses77 on Jul 9, 2012 20:36:15 GMT -5
Considering all the actors were adults by the time they made DH I don't think it would have been to hard on them to film Fred's death scene. In fact I think his character deserved better then that little scene of him losing his wand to a death eater as his death scene. I was also very disappointed that they didn't have Oliver return and show the quidditch team joining the fight and Percy joining the fight to.
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Post by physicssquid on Jul 9, 2012 20:37:47 GMT -5
I thought Percy was there during the scene where Harry was telling Snape that he had a security breech.
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Post by blackroses77 on Jul 9, 2012 20:45:24 GMT -5
He was showed briefly in a couple scenes but they didn't do the family reconciliation scene and he had no speaking parts.
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Post by teehee100 on Jul 9, 2012 21:33:30 GMT -5
Well, that's just it. The movies never actually said that Percy even left the family. They just don't mention him. Plot hole there. And black rose, I was referring to something I had read about James and Oliver Phelps. Does that make sense?
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Post by blackroses77 on Jul 9, 2012 21:38:35 GMT -5
What did you read? Did they say they couldn't film it because it would be to hard, I would be interested in reading that.
And yeah the Percy break wasn't brought up in the fifth movie but there were a lot of things that they threw into the movie that if you hadn't read the books wouldn't have made any sense, like the mirror shard, so they could have done the reconciliation scene even though the break wasn't shown in the 5th movie.
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You know, after seeing the LotR movies, I couldn't watch HP any more. Peter added some stuff, yes, but the longer parts he cut I could understand, and his reasons for some of the changes. Beyond that, he kept so close to the books, and the visuals left me drooling. When I, who usually starts fidgeting after an hour or so, can watch all three movies back to back, that says a lot.
Do they think we are stupid! There are always hours of footage left on the cutting room floor 
I think eventually they will bring out true extended versions but not until they feel every one has bought all the other versions of the movies. It is a complete rip off and money making scheme especially as I just found out the other day that you can't even get the bonus features for DH2 unless you buy the blueray. WHO THE HELL CAN AFFORD THE BLUERAY!! It is complete BS and I am dissappointed that JKR would allow her fans to be treated this way. HP is for everyone not just those who are lucky enough to be able to afford it.
