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Post by Serena R. Snape on Jun 26, 2012 8:13:14 GMT -5
My pet peeves about the books and the movies are that when I'm discussing something about them, people keep insisting that James was a Seeker when he was, in fact, a Chaser.
Sure, he was a Seeker in the movies, but he's a Chaser as per God's Word - aka Rowling said that he was a Chaser. I don't get why people can't accept that fact. ^^ll
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Post by eskimoRock on Jun 26, 2012 8:22:58 GMT -5
The things that the films change and then people automatically assume are canon, when they actually aren't! In the third film, Lupin talks about how close he was with Lily, but we don't actually have J.K Rowling's word on that so I hate how people twist it so that they were best friends.
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Post by readingwizard4 on Jun 26, 2012 9:43:04 GMT -5
I hate how the movies changed Ron's character. He just did not stand out like Harry and Hermione. They gave his lines to Hermione and didn't make him best bro material you know? In the Shack in the 3rd movie he wasn't the one to tell Sirius if you want to kill Harry you have to kill us too. That was Hermione. Earlier in the movie he didn't defend Hermione from Snape in the DADA lesson. At the end of HBP I didn't like it that Ron was seated away from Harry and Hermione. I know it could be seen as foreshadowing of Ron leaving but that was the Horcrux not Ron. Also he just stood there when Harry said he had to die. Show some spirit man!
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Post by Silvertongue on Jun 26, 2012 12:29:35 GMT -5
Yeah I hate all of the above-mentioned things. I also hate that Hermione seems to have ALL the smart lines. She even threw the stone at Harry in POA instead of Harry doing it himself. And Hagrid found Scabbers? What was that?
I hate when people take the films as canon. Sure, there are some hilarious scenes added but just because they were funny, doesn't mean they're canon.
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Post by eskimoRock on Jun 26, 2012 12:38:18 GMT -5
It annoys me how people think that Ginny is this weak little character, and Ron is just a hanger on. And the whole lack of a Lupin and Tonks story, or Marauder backstory.
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Post by G. Novella on Jun 26, 2012 12:46:50 GMT -5
Everything that's been said, along with all the subtle references to Hermione/Harry thrown in. Seriously, is it any wonder why people couldn't accept that that ship had really nothing there when the movies kept implying it?
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Post by eskimoRock on Jun 26, 2012 12:47:57 GMT -5
They were blatant Harry/Hermione shippers, it was ridiculous. I can't even get angry with my friends who think thats what should have happened, because the film makes it seem like it's happening.
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Post by Silvertongue on Jun 26, 2012 13:01:12 GMT -5
I agree. I don't understand why they did that.
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Post by Serena R. Snape on Jun 26, 2012 13:14:15 GMT -5
They even wanted Dumbledore to have some romance scenes with McGonagall, I heard. But then Rowling showed the director a paper which said "Dumbledore's Gay". And wasn't Hermione's dress for the Yule Ball periwinkle blue and not pink? I also hated the fact that they changed haircuts in the 5th movie. I think they captured the perfect look for Harry in 4th movie. I also really liked Ron with longer hair.
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Post by G. Novella on Jun 26, 2012 13:18:24 GMT -5
I love all the actors in another movies, but for some reason, I didn't like them all that much in HP. I think the visuals were great, and each element was right, but something, just something, never got me into the movies.
Ugh, Dumbledore/McGonagall romance scenes. I don't mind the ship, I'm just not too fond of it.
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Post by Silvertongue on Jun 26, 2012 13:21:25 GMT -5
Yep, Hermione's dress definitely wasn't pink in the book. And Harry's hair was definitely more Potter-like in the 4th film.
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Post by dracosfairmaiden on Jun 26, 2012 13:44:46 GMT -5
I wished there was more Dobby in the movies. In GOF the book, Dobby gave Harry the gillyweed, but Neville did in the movie. And I wished HHP showed Dobby and Kreacher trailing Draco. And Peeves should have been in the movies. "Give her hell, for us Peeves!" Enough said.
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Post by Silvertongue on Jun 26, 2012 13:46:31 GMT -5
Agreed! Missed Peeves and Dobby's parts!
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Post by 19811945 on Jun 26, 2012 13:52:12 GMT -5
They definately missed out the best parts in the movies, especially where it concerns Peeves, Dobby and Kreacher.
I'm also miffed that they kept changing who said what or who did what. It's like they made sure the best looking person on screen seemed to have all the best lines or given the correct ingrediant, so it seems!
If they kept it more to the books, they would have had a better audience.
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Post by Silvertongue on Jun 26, 2012 13:54:14 GMT -5
Agreed on the line swapping. Swapping houses bugged me too though. They made Padma Gryffindor instead of Ravenclaw and there were several recurring extras who changed from Gryff to Claw and back.
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Post by 19811945 on Jun 26, 2012 13:57:26 GMT -5
If they wanted to stay close to the books, then they should have done. They shouldn't have taken artistic tendancies.
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Post by Silvertongue on Jun 26, 2012 14:00:12 GMT -5
At least they didn't do an Eragon.
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Post by lauren on Jun 26, 2012 14:25:55 GMT -5
The movies, i don't like the scenes they choose to cut. I mean I get everything can't be fit into the movies (especially since most of them were just one movie, unlike deathly hallows which they split in to two) However, I don't see the point of them cutting out things like Dumbledore's funeral, The scenes with Lupin and Tonks. or Teddy's scene in the epilogue and the entire movie really. They only grazed over his birth and felt like they jumped over it. It's like really? I mean I'm not against adding scenes entirely (as i enjoyed some they added in the movies), but that's only if they don't cut scenes that are important. While the scene with Petunia in DH was a nice touch (I actually enjoyed it). I would rather they cut things they want to add that weren't in the book, verses something in the book that has important characters, or important information. I felt that MOST of the Harry Potter movies (though I enjoyed them and can't say that I hated them) SUCKED as far as accuracy to the book went (I know it can't be word for word because movies and books are usually different), but he movies were sooooooooooooooooooooo far from the actual books in my opinion. Or they're just like screw it lets cut this this and this to make room for this and two out of those 3 things were helpful or important to harry's journey or something. While the scene they added had no importance at all.
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Post by Silvertongue on Jun 26, 2012 14:30:05 GMT -5
I actually think they're some of the closest film adaptations out there. Some scenes in the books just wouldn't flow in film format and would feel very unnecessary, though I agree they shouldn't add things (burning Burrow, anyone?) if they don't have 'space' for canon scenes.
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Post by lauren on Jun 26, 2012 14:38:10 GMT -5
No yeah I've seen worse adaptions out there than HP, but, to me they cut things that didn't need to be cut and it sort of ruined it for me, Now, if it couldn't fit in the flow with the movie (and was important) or they had some sort of problems with it, then I think they should have pointed it out or said something. Since they didn't that's why I feel they could have done a much better job with them as a whole, or are just horrible at picking what to cut and what to keep (due to the fact they adding things like burning down the burrow and cutting out canon scenes some which probably shouldn't have been cut. Just seems pointless to me and almost makes me feel like that they had too much freedom with the filming). AND in DH 2 what was the point of casting a 'future' Teddy only to cut him out completely? and not even give him a deleted scene (at the very least).
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Post by Serena R. Snape on Jun 26, 2012 15:23:58 GMT -5
Don't we all wish they'd taken a leaf out of Peter Jackson's book? I mean, he filmed all three Lord of the Rings movies at the same time, AND made an Extended Edition that was entirely from the book. I really love LOTR movies.
Also, I hated the fact that they left out Marietta and made Cho the traitor. While I don't like Cho that much, it seems a bit unfair.
And they focused way too much on the dragon in the Goblet. It would have been better if they put a few more book scenes into the movie, instead of the ten minutes where we watched the dragon chase Harry around.
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Post by blackroses77 on Jun 26, 2012 16:05:14 GMT -5
Don't we all wish they'd taken a leaf out of Peter Jackson's book? I mean, he filmed all three Lord of the Rings movies at the same time, AND made an Extended Edition that was entirely from the book. I really love LOTR movies. Also, I hated the fact that they left out Marietta and made Cho the traitor. While I don't like Cho that much, it seems a bit unfair. And they focused way too much on the dragon in the Goblet. It would have been better if they put a few more book scenes into the movie, instead of the ten minutes where we watched the dragon chase Harry around. I completely agree with everything you said especially about an extended edition. (I was actually thinking of starting a thread just to see what everybody thought of the length of the movies and extended editions, but I'm not sure how ) I also agree with just about everything that has been said on here so far, especially with Ron's lines being given to Hermione, I can't believe JKR allowed them to do that to Ron's character, and what they chose to cut/add to the movies, especially the burrow burning (I'm still furious they did that and not the Rufus and Harry scene )
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Post by blackroses77 on Jun 26, 2012 16:21:51 GMT -5
Another thing that bugged me was that in the PoA movie they didn't follow the books and show us what Harry saw when the dementors were around.
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Post by Serena R. Snape on Jun 26, 2012 17:07:33 GMT -5
But he didn't see anything - he only heard his mum and dad. He never saw anything.
It was in Deathly Hallows that he saw Voldemort's memories.
Edit: at least I think so...
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Post by blackroses77 on Jun 26, 2012 17:11:40 GMT -5
Your right, I think, he didn't see anything but I know he heard more with each encounter with the dementors until he heard his mother begging for his life and all we heard in the movie was a screamed Harry. I don't think we even heard that as the movie progressed he just fell unconcious. For some reason I was thinking it showed what happened.
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Post by Trilonias on Jun 26, 2012 18:18:08 GMT -5
Another thing... even though I never saw the movies (I've watched previews and youtube stuff though) why do the Weasleys not have freckles? I know that in the books, she described them with it... Especially Ginny. Hermione's hair doesn't seem bushy enough either. Ok, I find many things wrong with everyone's hair. Except perhaps Snape's. I need to look at everyone's photos again, but erg.
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Post by jessieanneh2 on Jun 26, 2012 20:15:24 GMT -5
My Pet Peeves are numerous and I can't always remember them off the top of my head. I will list the common elements and expand on them more if people ask.
1. I hate how flippant she is with a friendships. I always felt that if you were BFF's with someone you would know instinctively whether they did something or not. (Ron and Remus are both guilty of thinking the worst of their BEST MATES)
2. Mrs. Weasley really annoyed me in the second book when she barely reacted to her sons telling her that the muggles put bars on his windows and were starving him. If it was me Harry would have gone straight to a Mediwitch before anything else.
3. I REALLY hated when she made Ginny go from wallflower to Super Ginny without any real growth in between. I'm not saying Ginny was weak but she was hardly main character material. I can't type how much I hate the pairing of Ron and Hermione without sounding petty and immature.
4. The Ruination of Hermione in HBP and DH really irked me she went from being a solid Best Friend to Harry to Jealous Shrew of his grades. I seriously wanted to throttle her so much.
5. The adding of new characters and the subtraction of others. I love Luna, as she is the character im most like, but whatever did happen to Sally-Anne Perks?
6. Snape being Lilly's Best Friend and still treating Harry like Garbage seriosly ticked me off. I get that he hated Harry's dad and James was a douche to him, but that is no reason to take it out on the mans son, especially if it was the son of the woman he claimed to love.
7. also I have little sympathy for Snape simply because of his refusal to let a childhood grudge go. was Snape a hero? yes but not someone I would name a child after even if it was only a middle name.
8. I really hate how manipulative Dumbledore was, and the fact that people treated him like he was god for defeating his friend/lover (I read online that JKR said Dumbledore was gay, whether its cannon or not I don't know) and the adulation went to his head and he began treating people like pawns.
9. How come NO ONE checked on Harry those ten years especially Dumbledore or Snape. And why was Hagrid of all people the only one available to bring Harry his letter. I love Hagrid but he was hardly a suitable first contact for Harry.
10. Why didn't Poppy Pomphrey do a full medical scan on Harry when he was in her hospital wing in first year. Further more Why do they not have mandatory physicals for first years before they are enrolled?
well thats it for now this is the longest non story post I made on a forum
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Post by rikustark on Jun 26, 2012 22:37:37 GMT -5
I personally don't have many pet peeves when it comes with the books. My only complaint is Ginny, WE NEED HER MORE. I'm not a fan of her character, and I think that's because we don't see her develop. It was strange for me when she just randomly pops in the 5th book become a Quidditch star.
Now the movies..
1) Marauders backstory.
2) Ron turning into comedic relief.
3) Random attack scene at the Burrows.
4) PEEVES!
5) The 5th movie.
6) The 6th movie focusing too much time on romance.
^ Biggest problems that pop out to me.
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Post by jessieanneh2 on Jun 27, 2012 0:11:45 GMT -5
I personally don't have many pet peeves when it comes with the books. My only complaint is Ginny, WE NEED HER MORE. I'm not a fan of her character, and I think that's because we don't see her develop. It was strange for me when she just randomly pops in the 5th book become a Quidditch star. Now the movies.. 1) Marauders backstory. 2) Ron turning into comedic relief. 3) Random attack scene at the Burrows. 4) PEEVES! 5) The 5th movie. 6) The 6th movie focusing too much time on romance. ^ Biggest problems that pop out to me. I actually liked movie Garry more than books Garry
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Post by Silvertongue on Jun 27, 2012 8:07:26 GMT -5
Do you mean Ginny? that looks like the work of a very opinionated Spell-check/Predictive Text.
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