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Post by G. Novella on Jun 26, 2012 22:18:24 GMT -5
Alright, so over the various Harry Potter world, many characters are named, such as Lisa Moon and Sally-Anne Perks. Over time, they disappear into the background and we have no clue what happens to them.
So, what are your theories?
To start us off, I say that they left in GOF to transfer to Durmstrang and Beauxbatons to avoid all the craziness happening at Hogwarts and actually get an education instead.
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Post by jessieanneh2 on Jun 26, 2012 22:21:36 GMT -5
I think their heads of house sent them to the Astral realm only to come back when they need cannon fodder?
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Post by MySecretSecondChance on Jun 26, 2012 22:36:19 GMT -5
Maybe towards the end of GOF all the named who disappeared got together and started there own school for the forgotten.
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Post by G. Novella on Jun 26, 2012 22:39:52 GMT -5
Both plausible ideas. Maybe they were told to dress in costumes and paraded around as unnamed mermen and centaurs as filler.
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Post by Trilonias on Jun 26, 2012 22:40:07 GMT -5
Died (I mean, really, who are all those who died in the final battle and elsewhere? There were fifty who died... but who started the fight there, besides the Order? Those in Harry's and Ginny's year. And the fifty who died did not include the death eaters...
Of course, they could've also been killed earlier or something. I'm sure some got caught as muggleborns in that awful year... and didn't get rescued in time. Or perhaps some died over the summers due to various accidents or some such.
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Post by G. Novella on Jun 26, 2012 22:41:52 GMT -5
That's so morbid.. They just slowly got picked off one by one during their time at Hogwarts.
The Hogwarts letter should include a hazard/warning sign :/
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Post by Trilonias on Jun 26, 2012 22:46:37 GMT -5
Probably. But most of them died during Voldemort's reign, so... not really something that normally happens. Mostly Death Eaters coming. But hey, that's life in war, right? Death.
Of course, some could simply be drop outs. Simple as that.
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Post by G. Novella on Jun 26, 2012 22:47:45 GMT -5
That's true, but it's more fun to think of random ways that they disappeared instead of the obvious route. Then again, fifty unnamed deaths was JKR's quick and easy way of explaining where a character went in my opinion.
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Post by Trilonias on Jun 26, 2012 23:11:12 GMT -5
True... but then, you have to wonder how many other stories led there, yeah? The books really only showed Harry's view...
But hey, don't let me stop the wacky theories! Hmm... let's see if I can come up with one...
Magical Displacement? Where magic somehow transports them to another realm? Maybe they are in another part of the world... or another reality entirely.
Or they just got lost in Hogwarts. For all eternity.
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Post by jessieanneh2 on Jun 26, 2012 23:36:04 GMT -5
That's so morbid.. They just slowly got picked off one by one during their time at Hogwarts. The Hogwarts letter should include a hazard/warning sign :/ But then the parents would refuse to send their children there. Maybe if the warning was in super duper fine print
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Post by Kitty279 on Jun 27, 2012 0:28:23 GMT -5
Easy. They got lost in all these corridors and moving stairs and Filch caught them and hid them and used them to make sure his torture devices don't get rusty.
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Post by jessieanneh2 on Jun 27, 2012 0:38:00 GMT -5
Easy. They got lost in all these corridors and moving stairs and Filch caught them and hid them and used them to make sure his torture devices don't get rusty. That explains the random screams of torture... Or it could be the ghost whenever SM is writing her stories
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Post by Dimcairien on Jun 27, 2012 1:10:37 GMT -5
Or maybe Rowling knew that there would be fanfiction writers and therefore randomly created some canon characters that she'd never develop and allow us to develop them however we wished.
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Post by Serena R. Snape on Jun 27, 2012 5:24:54 GMT -5
Hmm, I always thought that perhaps one of them was a muggleborn that didn't like it at Hogwarts and decided to leave and go to a muggle school. Perhaps Sally-Anne Perks did so. But then, there were all those dangerous adventures in Hogwarts that perhaps some parents decided to pull their children out and send them to another school or home school them even.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jun 27, 2012 6:01:34 GMT -5
Very likely, but that explanation is less fun Could it be that I have been spending too much time on the Umbitch thread?
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Post by Serena R. Snape on Jun 27, 2012 6:14:56 GMT -5
Haha, perhaps.
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Post by Silvertongue on Jun 27, 2012 6:31:19 GMT -5
I reckon they were all taken by the School and given wings and then eaten by Erasers.
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Post by dracosfairmaiden on Jun 27, 2012 7:01:34 GMT -5
I think they were pulled out of school for some reason or another. Maybe they were muggle-born and preferred some other school or their parents got too freaked out.
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Post by Silvertongue on Jun 27, 2012 7:10:36 GMT -5
A lot of them probably had to go into hiding with their parents or had their wands taken off them like Mary Cattermole almost did and then thrown into Azkaban. I hate to think that they would have gotten the kiss.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jun 27, 2012 7:27:42 GMT -5
You know, what happened to these Muggleborns makes me even more angry that JKR never put anything in the book how the toad was punished.
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Post by Silvertongue on Jun 27, 2012 7:38:26 GMT -5
Agreed. Think everyone involved in those things at the time and all throughout the series ever got put on trial when things settled? Would Harry have said anything about them? That's why I enjoy RtB stories so much. We see people finding out about everyone's law breaking and see them getting their just desserts.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jun 27, 2012 7:47:08 GMT -5
And that's why I like Amelia being there and taking action, or that new story Sherza is writing with the Queen. When it's just the Order, there's not much in the way of consequences, I guess, even though they are still fun.
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Post by Silvertongue on Jun 27, 2012 7:50:46 GMT -5
Yeah I do like Amelia being there but only when it fits with the story if you know what I mean. I can't see her being there from the start, but I like the idea of her being called in to give Sirius a quick trial or arresting someone and then being invited back to read or something.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jun 27, 2012 9:31:01 GMT -5
Oh, I don't know, I can see her being there from the beginning, at least when they read at Hogwarts and Fudge brings her. He'd think she can keep track of the misdeeds of Dumbledore and Harry, and in the end she will keep a looong list of his own and Umbitch's illegal actions However, reading with the Order would make it a necessity that someone from the future sent the books and made sure she's there to take care of certain problems and persons.
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Post by Silvertongue on Jun 27, 2012 10:54:28 GMT -5
Yeah. I think if the Ministry workers were involved with the reading then she would definitely be one of them but if it was, say, parents and teachers then she wouldn't.
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Post by jessieanneh2 on Jun 27, 2012 12:09:22 GMT -5
You know, what happened to these Muggleborns makes me even more angry that JKR never put anything in the book how the toad was punished. I thought it reminded me too much of a mutant registration act. I like to think she got killed or something but I doubt it people like her and Dumblewhore never get punished or have punishments stick. That is another thing that JKR annoyed me with. that and turning Voldemort into a one-dimensional bad guy. That just annoys me something fierce
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Post by Kitty279 on Jun 27, 2012 12:16:33 GMT -5
Or the jews in Nazi Germany? As far as I know, JKR said in an interview that she ended up in Azkaban after the war, but that's my problem - she said it, but not in the book. We only see people get away with everything - Umbridge, Snape, Filch, Malfoy ... It's such a wrong message for a children's book.
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Post by jessieanneh2 on Jun 27, 2012 12:31:54 GMT -5
Not to mention the fact that people act as if Snape was a good guy all along. How is verbally degrading thousands of students over the course of his tenure the sign of a good guy? You can say that he had to keep his cover, but I don't buy it.
If the person I loved had a child I would cherish it. not make its life a living hell at school. And why did he never check on Harry, and if anyone asks he could have said he was trying to gain Harry's trust and then turn him over to the dark lord when he returns.
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Post by jessieanneh2 on Jun 27, 2012 12:34:57 GMT -5
Yeah. I think if the Ministry workers were involved with the reading then she would definitely be one of them but if it was, say, parents and teachers then she wouldn't. Actually as Susan Bones' Guardian she would be there for the readings in an unofficial at first capacity
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Post by Kitty279 on Jun 27, 2012 12:36:51 GMT -5
Exactly! That's what I keep saying! That he was on the right side in the end (or at least not on the wrong side, I wouldn't be so surprised if he mainly tried to make sure he was on the right one, whoever won the war) doesn't make up for everything he did. And never mind cover, he was so much the in-your-face bad guy that no sane person would have believed him to have reformed.
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