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Post by unbeastly on Jul 22, 2012 11:27:38 GMT -5
How do you think Snape would have teated Harry if instead of looking like James, Harry was a female who looked exactly like Lily
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 22, 2012 14:11:12 GMT -5
Probably better, as I suspect his problem was that he was still jealous of James, and it didn't help that Harry looked more like James than Lily. Though, who knows, maybe he'd still treated her badly for not being Lily and because he couldn't have her, or because she was a living reminder of his mistake to run with the prophecy to Voldemort that cost Lily her life. It's hard to say for me, I never understood that man.
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Post by G. Novella on Jul 22, 2012 15:40:24 GMT -5
I think he'd have treated her with indifference. She'd be like something that keeps poking at him and reminding him of his failure, but instead of being in the form he hates, in the form he loves. And Lily was his angel/queen/idolized-perfect-woman. He can't do anything to her. Nor probably an image of her. He won't treat her kindly or love her, because the differences would be too obvious to him (quieter, less fiesty, potions mediocrity/above average rather than genius, etc)
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Post by bkaddictjk on Jul 23, 2012 8:31:23 GMT -5
I think that he'd be... a little better; but still hostile, after all, Harry is a Gryffindor, and he's James Potter's son...? I bet that he'd be a little bitter to Lily too, even if he did love her.
This is why he's my 2nd favorite character...
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Post by viralic1 on Jul 23, 2012 18:44:45 GMT -5
I think he would still be hostile, because he would find a flaw in Harry, and use that as an excuse to treat him like crap, regardless of who he looks like.
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Post by bkaddictjk on Jul 23, 2012 21:38:51 GMT -5
Why? (Just curious, you didn't tell us why you think that, I think that you might have a point.)
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Post by viralic1 on Jul 24, 2012 0:17:38 GMT -5
Simply because he is always claiming Harry was an arrogant, spoiled child, despite the fact that any moron could have told him the opposite. He is supposedly abused, so he should have seen the signs, which leads to one of two conclusion.
1) He knew Harry was abused, but ignored it anyway and continued to treat him like crap.
2) He was so blinded by his hatred, he didn't see the signs.
That right there tells me that no matter who Harry looked like, how he acted, he would still treat Harry like crap.
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Post by G. Novella on Jul 24, 2012 2:33:50 GMT -5
Actually, it makes sense he'd ignore abuse or be blind to abuse when it's JAMES POTTER's mirror image. However, if it's Lily mirror image, the woman he continuously died for, and just the mention of her eyes, and even her name, brought him pain, do you not think he'd treat her mirror differently?
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Post by viralic1 on Jul 24, 2012 2:47:24 GMT -5
No. He'd still be a bitter man, except now instead of the man he hated being imaged, it's the woman he loved and lost.
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Post by G. Novella on Jul 24, 2012 3:03:24 GMT -5
I guess I can still see that working. I'm torn though. While I agree with your point, I can't see Snape being mean to Harry-Lily since it seems masochistic. I think he'd feel angry and pained every-time Harry-Lily stared him down in anger. It would be like seeing Lily hate him all over again.
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Post by viralic1 on Jul 24, 2012 3:11:34 GMT -5
True, but that's assuming he could help himself. For someone who is supposedly a spy with extraordinary self control, he seems to have no self control whatsoever.
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Post by G. Novella on Jul 24, 2012 3:14:11 GMT -5
Haha, that's actually so true. The more I try and thinkmof his control, I can't seem to find a solid example. ,aybe in watching Burbage get murdered, but that seemed more like survival instincts.
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Post by viralic1 on Jul 24, 2012 3:16:30 GMT -5
Or he was just heartless at that point. I mean, during the shreaking shack incident he heard Sirius' innocence, had five-ten minutes to think about it, and still tried to murder Sirius and Remus by having them kissed by dementors. Plus afterwards, despite Harry being in the Hospital wing, he immediately assumes Harry was the culprit of Sirius escape (Despite the fact that he was right, there was no evidence) and then grabs him around the throat.
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Post by G. Novella on Jul 24, 2012 3:20:11 GMT -5
He never heard Peter though, and I doubt he concentrated on the words. He likes to hear a voice and get solely focused on either revenge or humiliation rather than listening properly to them when he's enraged.
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Post by bkaddictjk on Jul 24, 2012 11:30:11 GMT -5
Oh man... this is making my head hurt more than the day before my Chinese Characters examination... (and I almost failed that one so it's saying a lot...)
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Post by feladorn on Jul 25, 2012 1:31:30 GMT -5
I agree with GNovella. I think he'd mostly treat her with indifference. I doubt he'd be able to bring himself to say anything insulting/hurtful to her because it'd remind him too much of what ruined his friendship with Lily, but I don't think he'd be able to bring himself to be nice to her. The thought that she's James' child would be too much to bear.
So I think he'd mostly ignore her, maybe shoot a few calculating glances once in a while to see how much she resembles her mother, feel pangs of lost and despair when he notices some similarities, but hardens himself with reminders that she's James Potter's spawn.
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Post by mollyginevra on Aug 1, 2012 20:34:50 GMT -5
I think that he would have been much more ambivalent if Harry were a little girl who looked like Lily. I doubt he would have spoken as harshly, and he might have intervened more when Draco was bullying. I suspect that he would have seen his own failure every time he looked at her, and likely he would have ignored her a large portion of the time.
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