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Post by brokenquill92 on Sept 16, 2012 9:35:31 GMT -5
If the situation is extreme enough should an out of character character count as an original character like in au stories or Ron the DeathEater/Draco in Leather Pants
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Post by blackroses77 on Sept 16, 2012 10:23:09 GMT -5
No you can't claim them as an original character because they are the property of JKR.
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Post by Kitty279 on Sept 16, 2012 11:58:24 GMT -5
Blackrose is right, I believe. No matter how OoC they act, they are still wearing the names JKR gave them. OCs have to be someone you really made up.
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Post by eskimoRock on Sept 16, 2012 12:11:43 GMT -5
Jk Rowling came up with the characters after all, and even if they make different choices than they do in the books they are still her characters.
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Post by physicssquid on Sept 16, 2012 12:43:04 GMT -5
They're right, all we're doing is playing around with characters that JK has already created, despite the fact that we make a character so completely OOC that the only resemblance to what JK had is the name.
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Post by G. Novella on Sept 16, 2012 18:12:47 GMT -5
When people do that, I often wonder why they didn't just slap on a new name and make it an OC, or use said character in an original fic. It seems sloppy and slightly cowardly to me. I hope I'm not offending anyone, but writing fanfiction is about exploring characters from canon in new ways, not creating new characters in canon bodies.
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Post by brokenquill92 on Sept 16, 2012 19:39:35 GMT -5
When people do that, I often wonder why they didn't just slap on a new name and make it an OC, or use said character in an original fic. It seems sloppy and slightly cowardly to me. I hope I'm not offending anyone, but writing fanfiction is about exploring characters from canon in new ways, not creating new characters in canon bodies. That is exactly my point gvony why put in a character so ooc that in some fics they don't even look canon let alone retain any canon traits I mean that author is doing is using a canon name which makes no sense when their character can't be recognized
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Post by G. Novella on Sept 16, 2012 19:53:38 GMT -5
Exactly, but they're hiding behind the shield of cannon to avoid pissing people off or getting more reviews, and both tend to be horrible experiences for both.
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Post by werewulfking on Sept 18, 2012 4:59:36 GMT -5
I think most often they don't actually realize how far they have strayed from canon when something like this happens. I always imagine that they don't read their own stories but only grab for ideas and then put them in their story with no thought about how the whole picture will be.
And in the end we have a smoking, listening to muggle music and suit wearing Draco (because he looked oh so cool in the movies)
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Post by Kitty279 on Sept 18, 2012 10:16:16 GMT -5
Considering the spelling in some fics, not reading them themselves would certainly make sense ...
Could it be that in come cases, changes in the movies in comparison to the book are the problem? Beyond them thinking the actor hot and wanting to make him good, I mean? Are some characters very different in the movies?
And how much is fanfiction to blame? One writes character X a bit different, the next one thinks the change good, uses it, too, adds even a bit - and after a few rounds, the character is unrecognisable, because every writer adds to the OC-ness. That's what I imagine, too. (Not just one reason, but a number of them, working separately or together)
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Post by physicssquid on Sept 18, 2012 11:42:56 GMT -5
I'm sure that is the reason for some of it, but I don't think I'm the only one who believes that the way some characters act in the books is a clear indication of their true personality, and they use that as a reason to write characters so OOC that they are so totally different that the only thing in common with canon is their name.
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Post by brokenquill92 on Sept 19, 2012 1:03:32 GMT -5
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Post by brokenquill92 on Sept 19, 2012 1:05:20 GMT -5
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