Voldy's name.

[teehee100]

I have always wondered what Riddle's explanation would be for the name Voldemort. I know people think of the anagram, but I don't know how that would work. I mean it would take a while for anything useable to come out of Riddle's full name. I also wonder where deatheaters came from. Also 100 pst if you can tell me what Voldemort can be translated as.

[Nahara46]

Vol= Flight
de= From
mort= Death

Voldemort= Flight from death.

Fits, don't you think?

[physicssquid]

Voldemort is either 'flight of death' or 'flees from death' in French, but anglesized. To translate, it has to be split into three words, Vol de Mort, and the t is silent.

I don't know where the name Death Eaters came from, but according to Wikipedia JK was going to call them the Knights of Walpurgis.

The Harry Potter Wiki has something interesting about the Death Eaters;

The Death Eaters were originally titled The Knights of Walpurgis[10]. This name seems to be a play on Walpurgis Night, the evening of 30 April when, according to legend, witches and demons gather.

[unbeastly]

I think it's along the lines that they feed on death. In other words they consume life, that taking lives sustains them the same way happiness and souls sustains dementors. I guess it's a way of making them seem less human and more like monsters.

[Chameleon]

Well Voldie was always a smartie, so he could without doubt make it to an anagram, and maybe French..

Although the name is fitting for him, he wouldn't see it as a flight of death, more like a master of it or something in these lines.

[ayrine]

"Vol" also means theft in French. Voldemort could also mean "the theft from death" because he tried to be immortal so he tried to steal from death.

[Nahara46]

Theft would be interesting . I always considered flight from death to not signal cowardice, rather the power to leave it behind and rise above it.

[teehee100]

Personally I thought it was a stupid name. I mean basically he told everyone what he fears. So it would be hard to exploit that.

[Kitty279]

I wondered if he even knew enough French to understand what name he put together, or if he chose the Anagram just for sounding good? Though, seeing how afraid of death he was, it fits too well to be coincidence, I guess.

Well, he was a bit stupid at times. IMO some of his schemes, namely in fourth year, were way too elaborate and relied too much on circumstances he couldn't fully control.

[Chameleon]

Yeah... For a such clever student, I think his IQ fell down when he started with the Horcruxes, although the nickname came before, but I think it was just an anagram. He was probably proud of getting a name of a anagram.

[ayrine]

It's true that the 4th book was really (too much?) elaborated, but Voldy probably wanted to show off to his DE and prove who was the best one.
But again it makes me wonder how difficult it could be to smuggle a student out of the castle without anyone realizing?
I mean Harry already used some secret passages without getting caught or did Voldy want to hide Harry murder and to make it look as an accident that badly?

As for relying on chance, even if Harry was last in the third task, it could always be rectified if needed by the DE attacking the other champions, no? Which he did, no?

It seems the one who was the biggest obstacle to Harry winning as Voldy wanted was Harry himself. It must have been really frustrating for them when Harry sabotaged himself each time. Could almost be comical.

[Kitty279]

*snort* Yeah, that guy is such a braggart and show-off! Serves him right that this particular purpose of the plot backfired spectacularly.

Not that difficult, I'd suspect. Even during dangerous times (basilisk, Dementors), the main entrance door was open overnight. What would have kept the false Moody from just getting into the Gryffindor dormitory (as a teacher, he doubtless knew how), stun everyone in the room, levitate Harry out - maybe disillusioned or under an invisibility cloak, so the portraits couldn't see him - and leave?

Hm, faking an accident? Hadn't thought of that before.

[Chameleon]

It sounded sometimes like he wanted to fake an accident, especially in GoF. If Voldy killed Harry then, he probably wanted to hide it, as he didn't seem to want Dumbledore to know straight away that he was back. But all the other times .. Nope.

[Kitty279]

Why do it simple when you can make it complicated But then, the man tends to do everything to show off, and managing to fake it and then gloat about it later would be just right up his alley. Well, he didn't succeed. Pity we never saw the temper tantrum he threw when Harry escaped from the graveyard.

[jaffaninja]

We heard him screaming in rage though, so I imagine a lot of Death Eaters got crucioed.

[Kitty279]

Yes. Is it very mean of me that I hope he got a good number of them? To be on the receiving end themselves might do them some good, it was disgusting how they laughed when Harry was tortured. I don't have it in me to feel sorry for these monsters.

[Chameleon]

No my friend. I'm hoping for that to... Muhahah.

Yeah ... Voldy has often tantrums like a toddler, he's at that stage, but never at that rate like in the ending of GoF.

[jaffaninja]

Maybe Wormtail slightly stuffed up the rebirthing ritual so he lost some IQ?

[Chameleon]

I've always thought as he made Horcruxes, he also lost a bit of the IQ. He got close to immortal, and the payment beside all the murder and stuff like that, IQ too.

[ayrine]

I was wondering what would have happened if Voldemort had came back in the end of the 2nd years?
I mean let imagine he got off the diary and used Genny to create a body, would he really try to help the other Voldemort? and then let imagine the Voldemort that was in Albania resurrects too like in book 4.
I can't imagine Voldemort sharing power with others even it's his other self? And the other wouldn't want to return in the Diary?
He was satisfied with it when he was a weak soul's fragment but once he has a body I think he would try to take over.

What your opinion on this? Would it turn into an internal war between the two?

[physicssquid]

Either it would turn into an internal war between the two, or the younger version would try and merge with the older version, so there's only one of them. There is a story where there is an attempt to answer this question, in a reasonable way, where the version that came out of the diary started waging a war on the older version but stayed in the shadows while fighting, so the older version didn't know who he was.

www.fanfiction.net/s/3401052/29/A-Black-Comedy

This chapter shows one possibility for what could happen if the soul fragment in the diary succeeded in gaining a body.

[ayrine]

I doubt they could merge their fragments of soul as it was stated that only sincere regret could inverse the horcrux thing.
As for sharing a body that would mean possession no? would old-Voldemort accept to be a parasite in the back of young-voldemort's head and not have a proper body too? Would one try to control the other using their psychic connection? who would win?

[physicssquid]

This story shows another possibility for how things could go if the diary-fragment gained a body.

www.fanfiction.net/s/5043968/10/More-Important-Things

Tom/Voldemort was reading the parchment that had just been delivered by a very nervous follower, the news that Diagon Alley was under attack by none other than Harry Potter didn't make any sense. His thoughts were cut short as a shudder running through the ministry building and an enormous pulse of energy provided his answer, the fools had probably sent everyone they could after Potter's ghost while he attacked his real target.

Voldemort ranted and raved while Tom quietly congratulated Potter on being a worthwhile adversary and wished for the millionth time he'd never attempted to rejoin his soul.

His reasoning at the time was sound, according to his only source of information, the Weasley girl, Harry was this great hero who had defeated him as a baby and then again at the end of his first year in Hogwarts. It was only the boy marrying another that allowed him to take control of the young witch and his first act had been to destroy that precious jumper, had she actually met and spoken to Potter then he was unsure if he would have managed to absorb her life force such was her devotion to her hero. He badly needed that information but got more than he bargained for, he now knew he couldn't physically touch the boy and later heard the complete prophesy in the department of mysteries stating that Potter could actually kill him. With no news for the last five years he had no idea what power his nemesis might actually possess.

The soul joining had proceeded perfectly except for the fact that Voldemort was unfortunately quite insane, being destroyed for the second time by Potter had pushed him over the edge of what was normal even for a megalomaniac. They were currently in control of magical Britain with their every whim being catered for and most of the population totally unaware who pulled the strings, Voldemort wanted to have the fountain in the foyer replaced with a grand throne constructed from skulls where he would sit every day and be worshiped. Tom had no qualms about killing, he'd murdered his father and grandparents to make the diary but pointless killing just robbed you of a resource you could no longer exploit. Voldemort was so filled with hate he wanted to torture and kill the entire world's population, leaving him to rule over the desolation he'd wrought.

Their continual battles over the same body was taking its toll though as, instead of twenty-two they now looked nearer forty than thirty. Yes he received valuable information from the joining but paid a very high price, Tom had to keep all his emotions clamped down tight or that gave Voldemort the toehold he needed to begin their next battle for dominance.

The next piece of parchment delivered started a battle that Tom knew he had to win, Voldemort would stand and fight but this would only add impetus to their enemy's endeavours and they would be destroyed.

Harry Potter and Albus Dumbledore were marching towards the ministry at the head of an army after slaughtering the people they sent to the Alley, he had assumed that attack was a feint to allow him access to his actual target but now they faced real danger. The smart thing to do would be to withdraw and regroup but he could already feel Voldemort's response, he would stand at the top of the ministry steps and demand they all kneel before the greatest wizard who ever lived. As red began to creep into his eyes Tom knew he was in a fight for his life before Potter even got here.