non rtb challenge

[jeeva160889]

Here is a challenge.

Harry has an identical twin (boy) [any name the author wishes]. Harry, his twin and Neville are left in Godrics Hollow on Halloween 1981 with Augusta Longbottom while the Potters and Longbottoms go for an order meeting. Voldemort attacks after Peter informs him that all the three boys suspected as the Prophecy boys are in the same place. Voldemort fires off three consecutive killing curses at the three boys and all the three curses rebound on him. Any theories on how, the author can make it. James and Frank know that something has happened to their sons and rush back to find the boys with identical scars on their forehead. The 3 boys are very close and the Potters and Longbottoms go into hiding along with Sirius and Remus to give the boys a normal childhood and to train them. their adventures when they go to Hogwarts.

- The three boys must be able to complete each others sentences like the Weasley twins and are extremely mischeivous but they would be taught what line they should not cross! (what can you expect if they grow up with James, Sirius and Remus).

- Pairing of the boys can be anyone EXCEPT for Hermione, Ginny, Cho, Fleur or Nymphadora Tonks if het and Draco, Severus, Lucius if slash.

- Dumbledore can be good but manipulative or evil and manipulative. He thinks that only one boy is the boy- who- lived. In any case the Potters and Longbottoms get an unbreakable oath from him so that he would not reveal that the three boys were the ones to defeat Voldemort instead tell that he was the one to defeat Voldemort temporarily to buy time for every one to prepare in case he regains strength soon.

-Severus Snape and Malfoys bashing!

-Authors choice for the fate of Pettigrew; he can either escape and then appears later in the story or he can be captured and sentenced to Azkaban to later escape or sentenced to Dementors kiss immediately.

- Harry or his twin whoever is the first born is Potter Heir and the other is the Heir for the Most Noble and Ancient House of Evans which most of the Purebloods forgot about as they had gone into hiding in the early 1700's, Similarly for Heir of Black and Lupin since both of them never married.

-All three boys are 2 years older than in canon. they would be in the Weasley twins's year! Together with the Weasley twins and Lee, the six of them become new marauders (any name the author wishes for the group) and prank a lot.

- can have Molly and Ginny bashing if the author wishes! Ron could be taken under their wing when he goes to Hogwarts again if the author wishes.

- If the author wishes to continue after voldemort is completely defeated, then, the three boys are politically powerful and bring about changes in the Wizarding World.

- In their free time, like the Weasley twins experimenting on their joke products, the boys can research about making muggle electronics work in the wizarding world!

[jeeva160889]

Here is another challenge! Challenge #2

Harry is 2 1/2 years older than in Canon and his birthday would be in late September or October 1978. Volde attacks Potters as per canon on Halloween of 1981. So, Harry is 4 years old and Harry is also blood-adopted by Sirius when he was a year old as he was hit by a dark curse during the fight with the death-eaters. Harry remembers his parents vaguely. Harry is sent to the Dursleys and Sirius to Azkaban.

- Harry is protective of Dudley who is magical, Harry also prevents his cousin from becoming a bully and also pays for his cousin's magical education from the Potter Vault..

- Hedwig is Harry's familiar - she is either a snow phoenix who is in the guise of a snowy owl or is a moon owl.

-certain Canon events can happen but only during the correct timeline (eg: Quirrelmort and soccerers stone in Harry's third year-1990, Chamber of secrets -1991- harry's 4th year; Triwizard tournament - Harry is the only champion of Hogwarts, he would be 17 before Halloween that year.)

-Sirius can either be freed during Harry's first year after some research or Harry and Sirius can remain in contact, due to Hedwig being able to surpass any wards, with Harry providing nutrition potions while trying to free Sirius.

-Pairing of Harry can be with anybody except Harry/Hermione, Harry/Ginny, Harry/Cho, Harry/Nymphadora Tonks (I would like to add Harry/Fleur in the exceptions but since they would be the same age, I don't mind) if het and Harry/Lucius, Harry/Draco, Harry/Severus if slash.

-Malfoys and Snape bashing.

-Harry has friends in almost all the houses, rivalries are ok, but not to the point of bullying.

-Harry, Fred, George, Lee are best friends and prank a lot, but again never to the point of bullying.

Harry and the Weasley twins are partners in WWW, though Harry could also have another occupation if the author wishes.

-Harry starts to learn about his position of the Heir of Most Ancient and Most noble Houses of Potter and Black.

-After war is over, (Can have horcruxes if author wishes or not, again learning about them in his Final year at Hogwarts and after that.) Harry takes up his position in the Wizengamot and makes a few changes for good.

-If author plans on having Harry kicked out of the house by the Dursleys as soon as Harry turns 17, Harry takes Dudley with him.

[jeeva160889]

If the author wants to change anything, you can, except for the pairings! Please post the link to the story once you start posting it!

[Nahara46]

I really like these ideas, however I don't like most of the rules... I hate almost all bashing (especially Molly and Dumbledore bashing, I don't get why so many people hate them! And of course, the Malfoys and snape are some of my favorite characters ). Also, I don't like how you make the Evans a pure-blood family- that's kind of going against a good portion of the whole series, that blood doesn't matter.

And some of my favorite pairings are gone! (Drarry, Snarry and H/Hr fan here )

Would you mind if I borrowed the plot idea, but not as a challenge? And I mean with both, I love the idea of Harry being friendly with Dudley, and the idea of him and Neville (If you allowed me, I would probably do away with the twin) being together when they are attacked and then going into hiding.

[jeeva160889]

I dont mind... You can write. If you are planning on writing about Snarry or Drarry, the only thing i ask is you make them friendly earlier... And since Harry is going to be 2 years older in both, I am not sure how you are going to make that work, but i would like to read it. I dont like H/Hr mainly because I see Hermione is too bossy over Harry and I can only see the two have a sibling bond.

As for Dumbledore and Molly bashing, Well I will cover Molly bashing:

Isn't it odd that Molly shouted out about muggles on the muggle side of the platform? In the first book, Percy gets new robes as well as a new owl just for being made a prefect. Well, if you were on Pottermore, you would know the cheapest owl is 10 Galleons. A new wand is only 7 Galleons. Why could she not buy Ron a new wand when every other Weasley child has his own wand? Clearly it is known fact in the Wizarding World that a person's wand is unique and unless it was won, it is difficult to get the wand to work for others.

She also start comparing the twins and Ron with Percy, Bill and Charlie. Since the twins are jokers of the family and don't care too much about the comparisons, but Ron on the other hand has a really big inferiority complex which would only be enhanced when he befriends Harry. Also in the fourth book, she scolds the twins for the joke products and asks in front of Harry where she went wrong raising the two of them. Oh, it is normal for parents to sometimes use that sentence while scolding, but in front of a guest? I know the Weasleys consider Harry and Hermione a part of the family, but come on, at that point in time she had only known Harry personally for about a month (before second year and a day before third year.) I am not telling that parents should not scold in front of friends, I got that a lot and mainly I was embarassed, but telling you went wrong in raising them in front of friends?

As for the summer before fifth year, well Molly goes off on Sirius for getting landed in Azkaban, well I agree that was not very good on his part, but he had tried to take Harry and when Hagrid told about taking harry to dumbledore, sirius beleived that harry would be happy and safe. that is why he went after peter. but again he did escape azkaban for harry. many might tell that he only escaped for getting revenge, but he did tell that Peter was at Hogwarts, near harry, perfectly placed to act should he get wind of the fact that Voldemort was getting stronger. So again it was to protect Harry that Sirius did so much, but Molly scoffs at that! In the sixth book, openly disliking Fleur? All mothers are scared that the wife would take away their son from them, but openly showing that dislike in front of Fleur? That has got to hurt! And encouraging Ginny and Hermione rather than punishing them? I will never deny that she is a great mother, but there are so many things that she has done, a parent should not do. I actually love to read any stories where she is not bashed too...

As for Dumbledore,
Knowingly sending a young boy to at the least neglected childhood? Dumbledore could have given the boy to some caring people who do not have children and put all of them under fidelius charm. He could have told them to not tell him about the boy-who-lived nonsense till he was eleven and to raise the child normally. If not with a wizarding family, then atleast a squib family or even some good muggle family. send him abroad, anything... then those adventures at Hogwarts and finally sending him to die? Again I dont mind reading a story where he is not bashed, and that is why i gave the option of him being good but also manipulative.

Do post the link here after you post the first chapter. Even if you write H/HR, others might like to read. And sorry for the rant!

Hope to read your story

[Nahara46]

I'lll definitely post it- I can start writing today in math class (I'm still debating on my couples... I really want Neville with Luna, but there will be a huge age gap xD, so I may give him to another girl. Not sure about Harry- will have to think on that!)

On Molly/ Dumbles:

First the most common thing people bring up- her 'shouting' the platform number. I highly doubt she was actually shouting, Harry was attentive toward everyone, as he usually is (especially in panic), not everyone would have heard that. Anyways, I think she was just placating Ginny and making a bland comment, like one would talk about the weather when she spoke of muggles.

I've heard a lot of people bring up the owl thing- but how does anyone know where the Owl came from? Maybe there's an adoption place with cheap/free prices that Harry doesn't go to. Maybe she got the owl from a friend who had no time for a pet anymore, there are infinite possibilities as to how/where she got the owl. For all we know, Ollivander didn't have a wand that chose Ron, so he couldn't get one until later when Ollivander made one two years later.

Every parent compares siblings, and Molly does have her faults. Also, it is my personal opinion that some scolding (not really bad things though) is okay in front of friends, as long as they are good friends. If I were scolded in front of my friends, I'd be more likely to take the scolding to heart and actually listen. Also, I do agree with what people say about Harry and Hermione being considered family. I've also thought that Molly and Lily would have been friend- both close to the order, so I think Molly liked Harry long before she met him.

Also, I highly doubt Molly was aware of exactly what happened with Sirius, how would she know about Sirius having first gone to Harry (well... Hagrid may have said something, but there's no guarantee.) Anyways, it was a stressful summer and they were stuck in a creepy house with a horucrux, I can forgive them being snappy and a bit rude. After all, as you said, he wasn't innocent in the situation either.

Dumbles: I don't think he would have know what Harry went through, he probably knew it would be a bit strained at first, but he probably thought Petunia would love her nephew. After all, he knew Petunia to be the girl who asked to come to Hogwarts to look after her sister, and he loved his own sister so I doubt he even though about that maybe Petunia wouldn't give a rats ass about her nephew. Figgs couldn't have told him about the abuse, I doubt she knew a lot about it! I'm sure she noticed that Harry was quiet, but some kids are, so she had no reason to suspect. Should Dumbles had taken Harry out once he knew what was going on? Probably- but the damage was done, and by that point it was even more crucial to have Harry safe from Voldemort.

I kind of wonder what would have happened if Dumbledore himself had taken Harry in when Voldemort returned.... Hmm...

And no matter, I love a good rant!

[Nahara46]

Also, I may or may not mess with the ages, perhaps the twins and Harry and Neville will all become a year younger, so Neville isn't as far from Luna's age.

[jeeva160889]

Again I can agree on fewpoints. That is why I like reading a good story whether it be molly and dumbles bashing or not Like a cat on a wall... but leaning more towards the bashing side...

[jeeva160889]

Nahara: As for the Evans being a pureblood family, all muggleborns have atleast one magical in their family tree, so i thought them being a Pureblood family producing squibs for some generations and their roots about magic being forgotten is probable.
As for Molly and Lily being in the order and being friends, I don't think Molly was in the order during the first war. The prewitts, her brothers were members but not her, as Remus mentions that in the fifth book about losing people you care and that she was not there in the order the previous time. I am also not telling that mothers are not supposed to scold in front of friends, just the words she uses. If the twins had heard that, I am sure they would be pretty upset.