Angry Harry

[melodypottersnape]

I really don't see Harry as an angry person but it seems that everyone does. I mean I have constantly read fics where everyone comments that he has a quick temper but I don't see it. I mean the only time Harry seems to be angry is in the fifth book and quite frankly he was acting down right subdued compared to others in my opinion.

First Book
Harry acts a little mad when people pick on him but that's natural and doesn't speak of a quick temper at all. Then he was a little snappy when they were talking about Voldemort wanting the stone, but he has someone that wants him dead and will kill a lot of people about to return.

Second Book
He had more right than anyone to be angry but I never see him blow up at anyone. I mean he has people believing that he is attacking people and the teachers aren't doing anything to stop it. Not to mention the attacks themselves could make anyone have a short fuse.

Third Book
He got angry over Malfoys actions a bit and other general things but he never seemed to blow up. I mean he had a small tiff with Hermione over the broom but he didn't have any ind of shouting match.

Fourth Book
He had everyright to be pissy with people but he never really seemed to. I mean he knows that he may not be alive the next day, people are being jerks, and Ron pretty much stabbed him in the back. Even with all that stress he never really lost his temper unless you count the few heated words with Ron. As far as I'm concerned it was Ron that lost it and Harry was being down right friendly when compared with Ron's behavior.

Fifth Book
Here is where he gets angry.
-First is being stuck at the Dursleys. He has just saw someone die and a man after his head is out there. Not only that he is being isolated from information and from people who give a damn about him. He had every right to be in a bad mood.
-He shouts and his friends. His friends have been together and know that they are alright. He had to be in a constant state of wonder if his next letter would go unanswered because his friends were dead. Next they had access to atleast some general information and he had none. They were the friends of Harry Potter and they might very well be targeted. Harry was on top of the hit list and had fought him more than anyone but probably Dumbledore so he without a doubt had right to information so he was definitely justified to be angry. Not to mention that his friends essentially chose access to a little information over their friendship.
- From what I've read that was the first time he had ever yelled at them but I've read them yelling at him or eachother multiple times in the series. They acted like he was such a bad person for it to, but yet it's almost like they believe they have a more of a right to act angry at times than him.
-He was a little snappy throughout the year but all things concerned he acted very patient with all that he put up with
-He lashed out a Dumbledore at the end of the year. His godfather just died and all for information he should have been informed of as soon as Voldemort returned. He has been told that its his job to handle Voldemort and that he either has to do it or die and cause everyone else's death. Not to mention the stress of the year has been getting to him. I hated how snotty the portraits acted to his loss of temper though atleast Dumbledore treated him fairly for it.

Sixth Book
I never really saw him lose his temper. Hermione was treating him like shit but constantly seemed to act like he was supposed to make sure she was alright. Ron was a little side tracked. He is not really being trained and he has essentially been told that Draco is worth more than everyone else. Draco nearly killed Katie Bell but it didn't matter compared to the fact that Draco deserved a second chance. Where was Katie's first chance? Not to mention the constant expectation that he was the Chosen One everyone had. I don't think he ever lost his temper and he had a lot to deal with.

I won't go into the Seventh Book.

Hermione and Ron. These two fight like cats and dogs and yet as soon as Ron turns his back on Harry Hermione act like it is his fault. I mean they act like they can act as angry as they want but as soon as Harry does he is being downright unfair. It blows my mind.

[Kitty279]

Actually, save the fifth books, I felt that Harry was way too good natured. He took too much in stride and forgave the perpetrators too easily. The only one time when he was really angry was fifth book, and there he had even more reason to be angry than with the others. The trauma of the graveyard and seeing Cedric die untreated, abandoned at Durskaban, then the unfair trial, Dumbledore avoiding him, so many turning against him, Umbitch with her detentions, frequent headaches, no Quidditch, and in the end losing Sirius because Dumbles can't part with any of his beloved secrets and knowledge … the kid had more than enough reason to be furious.

So, as you can tell, I completely agree with you. About Hermione, too. But then, she was always a bit hypocritical; obviously, she can do whatever she wants, but Harry doesn't have the same right - particularly if that goes against her or makes her feel bad (or should make her feel bad, rather). Honestly, if I had to listen to Ron and Hermione having a go at each other all the time, I'd probably have strangled them just to shut them up. Never understood how that endless fighting and sniping was supposed to prove that they are in love.

[melodypottersnape]

It just gets on my nerves when in RTBs people constantly have all Gryffindor students fearing his temper because of past memories of it. I mean they make it out like he has anger management problems. I mean I can understand if they are writing an AU of a Harry that isn't a doormat.

[ayrine]

While I don't think that Harry temper is that bad, I think that he is moody. Then again, I would too if I was him.
The only real problem I have with Harry's "temper" is that it get the best of him in the worse situation; because if it's coupled with stubbornness and recklessness, it's a recipe for trouble.
How he got angry in the 7th book and said Voldemort name knowing that it's taboo'ed, leading to Hermione's torture and Dobby's death is a firm argument that Harry should really control his "temper".

[Kitty279]

Actually, I even doubt that slip of the tongue has much to do with anger. At work they keep changing the terms used for certain things, and I notice that I find it hard to use the new ones after using the others for years. And there is no anger involved. Seeing as Harry never grew up with that paranoia to never say that name and used it routinely, I think it natural that he had to slip sooner or later.

[ayrine]

I see it differently.
They were arguing in that scene and they were obviously ticked off of each others but Hermione and Ron kept trying to stop him from saying the name.
I understand that it was tongue's slip at first, but the reason that made him continue saying "Vold---mort!!!" and not cut himself in time and also made him forget himself and forget that he was tracked by Voldemort and endanger himself and his friends was his frustration and anger thus he lost his temper.
All that because Ron and Hermione didn't believe in the Deathly Hollows.

So no for me it wasn't just a slip of tongue but an example of Harry's "legendary" temper.

[RandomPasserby]

I understand that it was tongue's slip at first, but the reason that made him continue saying "Vold---mort!!!" and not cut himself in time and also made him forget himself and forget that he was tracked by Voldemort and endanger himself and his friends was his frustration and anger thus he lost his temper.

Rereading the book that's not entirely accurate, Harry says "Voldemort" and Hermione shouts over him somewhere in the middle. Since you can say 'Voldemort' faster than you can 'Harry, no', I would interpret that to mean that Harry got to 'Vol' when Hermione starts 'Harry' and finishes 'demort' while she's still saying 'Harry, no'. There was no pause in the middle, especially since Harry then finishes his sentence. Which sounds more like 'I have this sentence in my head which finishes my argument, let me say it before you start talking...oh shit I said something bad'.

Without trying to sound victim-blamey, if Hermione hadn't shouted we don't know if Harry would have gotten to 'Volde' and then cut himself off. Earlier in the chapter Hermione's arguing against the existence of the Deathly Hallows. It's entirely plausible that Hermione starting with "Harry," just made him think she was going to contradict him again and want to get his sentence out quicker, which caused him to neglect to censor the word.

Given this is somebody who has spent the past seven years being encouraged by an authority figure to say the name, and who is quite used to saying it despite the gasps of other people, it's understandable that when he's angry he slips. And if he's still thinking 'Voldemort' when he says 'You-Know-Who' (which he is, since Voldemort appears in the prose) then a lapse in brain to mouth filter was an unintentional consequence of him being angry. The way that people sometimes say things in the heat of the moment that they don't mean.

[ayrine]

It's what I meant, Hermione tried to interrupt him (I didn't mean he cut the word in 2), but caught in his anger, he didn't want to listen and said the word.
Yes, he is used to say "Voldemort" and think "Voldemort" but he showed restrain and when he was calm, he was able to stop himself in time, even if there were near misses. Then he completely forgot himself in the heat of the argument and let his temper get to best of him.
That what I mean with "temper", it's not Harry as raging lunatic.