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Post by Miss Wings on Apr 16, 2014 6:07:04 GMT -5
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Post by stelladelnordxd on Apr 16, 2014 13:02:14 GMT -5
I honestly just feel like she's trying to remain important by constantly giving us quasi-related HP things :/
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Post by Kitty279 on Apr 17, 2014 0:14:45 GMT -5
And I'd prefer the lexicon she promised so long ago - and in printed form.
Though, don't forgot, she wrote two more books in the meantime that were at least some success.
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Post by Miss Wings on Apr 17, 2014 8:40:42 GMT -5
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Post by Kitty279 on Apr 17, 2014 11:10:56 GMT -5
Oh wow, Wingsy, that's an interesting find, thank you! I remember the Eva Ibbotson case, it came up around the third book or so, and I think I heard about the Tanya Grotter case, I think it was a parody, but I'd have to look it up. And the LotR similarities are glaringly obvious to me anyway. But the others are new for me. Wouldn't it be interesting if all these possibly plagiarised authors connected and sued JKR? I mean, it's clear that you will end up being influenced by what you read, that's inevitable, and you can be inspired by it, but that all sounds a bit too close to HP.
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Post by Miss Wings on Apr 17, 2014 11:34:56 GMT -5
True but all those authors names can be connected to the HP world as well, what if all those books were written by JK and we've been led on a ride?
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Post by Kitty279 on Apr 17, 2014 14:14:18 GMT -5
Rather doubt it, Eva Ibbotson was a well-known author before JKR and there are other books from her. Actually, Ibbotson was 40 years older than her. And Tolkien most definitely wrote his LotR himself, we can follow the development of his books in the History of Middle-earth series his son published later. Besides, the Hobbit was published in 1937, the LotR trilogy in 1954-1955 - which means, even the last book was out ten years before JKR was even born. So, no, I rather doubt she can claim that success, she just stole ideas ;P
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Post by Miss Wings on Apr 17, 2014 14:21:22 GMT -5
No wonder Lockheart was brought into the books then  |
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Post by Kitty279 on Apr 17, 2014 14:53:13 GMT -5
*lol* Now that's a way to look at it. Though the hint is a bit too obvious when you think about it that way |
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Post by stelladelnordxd on Apr 17, 2014 15:04:26 GMT -5
I've heard of a few of these cases. I didn't know the lexicon sided with JKR though? Like, it's clear the obviously, there's more of a chance of JKR plagiarizing and not the other other authors, since their books/films were out before HP.
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Post by Kitty279 on Apr 17, 2014 16:17:14 GMT -5
Actually, the lexicon site is owned by Steve Vander Ark - the one who then tried to make money with a printed version of it, without consent from the authors of the essays or anything, and without consent from JKR, as far as I remember. I'd not call that 'siding with JKR'.
As I only know LotR, I can't say anything about the other works, but there, I can see a number of similarities, no doubt about it.
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Post by stelladelnordxd on Apr 17, 2014 21:28:42 GMT -5
Ah, see, I didn't know that. I mostly avoided the lexicon site and anything to do with it, as everything seemed pro-everything-canon and I just couldn't deal |
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Post by Kitty279 on Apr 17, 2014 23:21:08 GMT -5
Really? That doesn't sound like the site I know; to me, it's just a collection of canon facts. I use it just as a great source to look up details from the books - stuff like hair colour, house or year for secondary characters and other stuff I can't remember. Or to check meaning or incantation of spells and the like. For that, keeping to canon is only a big plus; we don't want to have fanon "facts" mixed in with it, do we? *cough*Dan and Emma Granger*cough* Are you sure you don't mix up two websites?
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Post by stelladelnordxd on Apr 17, 2014 23:47:39 GMT -5
Eh, maybe I did mix up two websites. I probably did And aha, Dan/Emma Granger is something I love xD |
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Post by Kitty279 on Apr 18, 2014 0:19:08 GMT -5
Likely  You can love it all you want, but as long as JKR doesn't bow to fanfiction majority, it's still not canon Sometimes it's funny how people have a go at authors for using other names for the Grangers or Potter grandparents (instead of Charlus/Dorea) because they believe that they are canon and the authors got it all wrong and need to do their homework when in truth it's the reviewer who needs to do that |
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Post by stelladelnordxd on Apr 19, 2014 12:17:21 GMT -5
I mean, I always thought she was 'bowing down' to fanfiction majority by doing Ron/Hermione and then dissing us Harmony shippers, but she's seen her ways from that And, see, if I know the characters names, I'm going to use them (fun fact: I used Charlus before it was even mentioned, but it's so hard not spelling it as Charles >.<) but as for the Grangers' -- I wouldn't use Dan and Emma because it's so overdone anyways. Yeah, getting it wrong makes no sense. Especially since you're just a few clicks away from the answer. |
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Post by Kitty279 on Apr 19, 2014 13:11:48 GMT -5
Never got the canon pairing, and frankly, I was glad she finally saw the error of her ways Yeah, if I know the right name, then I use it, and if I'm not certain, then I'll look it up. There are enough lexicon sites online, after all, and seeing that fanfiction is written on a computer, I don't understand why people seem unable to check their facts. The amount of cases where names are constantly misspelled (even in RtB fics, where they have the very same name in the line above it!) is astounding. Ha, that's a nice coincidence  |
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