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Post by Miss Wings on Jun 13, 2012 14:49:49 GMT -5
Like my Tutor told me.. think if her as a Professor and i'll always get it right. I had her proof read a few chapters once and that's how it came about..
never did think of her as the Professor but more of a Sister..
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Post by angelty on Jun 13, 2012 21:17:03 GMT -5
When the story does never get finished that is my greatest pet peeve
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Post by Kitty279 on Jun 14, 2012 0:37:27 GMT -5
Particularly when people promise to do all 7 books (no matter if it's a reading fic or a normal one) and then don't even get halfway through the first one. By now I am taking that sort of announcement with more than just one grain of salt.
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Post by Dimcairien on Jun 14, 2012 1:37:37 GMT -5
Yeah, you usually can't be too sure until they get to the fifth one. If an author has made it that far, you know they're dedicated. Maybe even making it to the fourth one can count as being dedicated.
I'm determined to get all seven finished and I'm about half-way through the sixth book right now. I wish I were done with all seven, but I've been busy and haven't had much time to write. I'm also determined to develop the characters and not simply have random comments.
I don't know if this has been said before, but another peeve is the student/professor relationships. Where in the world did that come from? Not only is it odd, but it's extremely disturbing, especially when you consider that the majority of the professors have taught for quite awhile. Really, McGonagall is old enough to be Hermione's grandmother.
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Post by sherza on Jun 14, 2012 1:52:19 GMT -5
No kidding!
The only (constant) staff that I'm sure are under the age of forty throughout the books are Charity Burbage and *shudder* Snape and Trelawney! I'm not sure about the lesser-seen teachers, but of the more-seen ones, veryone else is at LEAST sixty (McGonagall being the youngest, and about ten years younger than Tommy boy)
This is all sorts of ick and nasty. Jut ... ugh.
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Post by kumainpink on Jun 14, 2012 2:07:52 GMT -5
I'm not fond of Professor/Student relations... it's just... um... yeah... no words for it.
But I do like to pair Professors together. This sounds a bit strange, but here are my favorites among them:
Minerva/Poppy or Minerva/Poppy/Rolanda
Filius/Pomona
Hagrid/Minerva
Hagrid/Charity
Charity/Severus
Yeah, I'm weird. =P I just think the professors deserve love too.
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Post by codygotkilld on Jun 14, 2012 2:09:43 GMT -5
Yeah, I was browsing through the HP section on ff.net a couple of months ago and found a Harry/Minerva story called Animagus Misshap. I also think that it was a harem story involving Harry basically impregnating a bunch of girls but I'm not sure. I clicked on it on for boredoms sake and didn't get pass the complete summary due to the ick factor. Really the whole concept of Harry being paired with older women is really disturbing to me and I completely ignore them when I search through ff.net. I can barely see Harry with Tonks and that has to be well written before I even get past the second chapter.
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Post by kumainpink on Jun 14, 2012 2:12:37 GMT -5
Yeah, I was browsing through the HP section on ff.net a couple of months ago and found a Harry/Minerva story called Animagus Misshap. I also think that it was a harem story involving Harry basically impregnating a bunch of girls but I'm not sure. I clicked on it on for boredoms sake and didn't get pass the complete summary due to the ick factor. Really the whole concept of Harry being paired with older women is really disturbing to me and I completely ignore them when I search through ff.net. I can barely see Harry with Tonks and that has to be well written before I even get past the second chapter. For me, older isn't a problem, but elderly is another issue all together. What about all those Harry/Voldemort fics out there? They're not all bad, and it's kind of interesting, but it's still so weird. |
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Post by codygotkilld on Jun 14, 2012 2:26:51 GMT -5
Yeah, I was browsing through the HP section on ff.net a couple of months ago and found a Harry/Minerva story called Animagus Misshap. I also think that it was a harem story involving Harry basically impregnating a bunch of girls but I'm not sure. I clicked on it on for boredoms sake and didn't get pass the complete summary due to the ick factor. Really the whole concept of Harry being paired with older women is really disturbing to me and I completely ignore them when I search through ff.net. I can barely see Harry with Tonks and that has to be well written before I even get past the second chapter. For me, older isn't a problem, but elderly is another issue all together. What about all those Harry/Voldemort fics out there? They're not all bad, and it's kind of interesting, but it's still so weird. I've only read a few of the Harry/Voldemort fics and those were usually the ones where Harry travels back in time. There is one that I read that was done very well where Harry was sent back when he was really young (4-5) and Tom became really protective of him. |
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Post by kumainpink on Jun 14, 2012 2:31:10 GMT -5
I actually loathe the pairing, though I do find the occasional jem in the figurative shithole that the pairing is.
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Post by sherza on Jun 14, 2012 2:43:18 GMT -5
I don't think I've ever seen one, because like heck am I going to look, but as ... strange ... as people are, it would NOT surprise me for there to be Harry/Dumbledore fics out there.
*horrified full body shudder*
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Post by IceBlueRose on Jun 14, 2012 2:44:49 GMT -5
I've never been able to find a really good Harry/Voldemort fic so I pretty much gave up on the pairing.
And I'm sure this was mentioned on one of the previous pages since there's quite a few comments already but I really hate it when I see the guys cowering because of the girls. I mean, come on, Sirius spent 12 years in the hell that is Azkaban but I'm supposed to believe that he wants to hide from Hermione and Ginny when he very coolly stares down Molly in OotP? Or ones where we see future versions of Harry and the others - Harry faced down Voldemort numerous times as well as Death Eaters and survived but I'm supposed to buy that he cringes when Ginny merely glares at him? Puh-lease.
And Molly constantly scolding Harry for his manners or whatever. Merlin, woman, you have seven kids of your own already, focus on them and leave any scolding (if any happens) to Sirius or Remus - or, depending on how the fic is done, to James and Lily. That's as bad as when I see Molly actively questioning James and Lily's parenting techniques in CR fics. You're not the poster child for perfect parenting yourself, Molly.
Definitely have to agree with the abuse!fics convo above as well. People tend to go over the top with it and then Harry becomes a character you don't even recognize with all the mental breakdowns that he has and all the crying. I'm no expert so maybe that actually happens, I don't know. I suppose I shouldn't criticize but I tend to lean more towards the fics where the person explains that they've worked with kids coming from an abusive home so they're using that as a reference and those ones tend to not be over the top. Much more believable.
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Post by codygotkilld on Jun 14, 2012 2:47:21 GMT -5
I don't think I've ever seen one, because like heck am I going to look, but as ... strange ... as people are, it would NOT surprise me for there to be Harry/Dumbledore fics out there. *horrified full body shudder* Oh trust me sherza, there is one on ff.net that has slowly grown in popularity in the past month or so. (un)Luckly from the summary it is a young Dumbledore/Harry pairing. |
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Post by sherza on Jun 14, 2012 2:53:19 GMT -5
Well, I can see Sirius *teasingly* cowering from Ginny or Hermione but yeah, cowering for real is a big no.
Young Dumbledore is ... well, a bit better, I suppose. I just ... my brain seizes up anytime Dumbledore and sex are in the same sentence. Same for Voldemort (as opposed to Tom Riddle, whom I see as the young, handsome guy)
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Post by Kitty279 on Jun 14, 2012 2:57:34 GMT -5
Yeah, that was what I said about the guys all fearing the girl's tempers. Sirius grew up with Walburga, for heavens sake!!
Ah yes, manners. Look at Ron's table manners, always talking with his mouth full. Molly can't change that, but she keeps scolding Harry for his reaction to Hagrid turning up?? Please, she has already heard how the Dursleys behave, they have no manners whatsoever. How was Harry supposed to learn manners? And then she is scolding Harry for not being a beacon of courtesy when under shock?
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Post by Kitty279 on Jun 14, 2012 3:02:46 GMT -5
Young Dumbledore is ... well, a bit better, I suppose. I just ... my brain seizes up anytime Dumbledore and sex are in the same sentence. Same for Voldemort (as opposed to Tom Riddle, whom I see as the young, handsome guy) I wonder if Riddle even *could* have sex any longer, seeing how many dark ritual he used? |
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Post by codygotkilld on Jun 14, 2012 3:03:26 GMT -5
Well, I can see Sirius *teasingly* cowering from Ginny or Hermione but yeah, cowering for real is a big no. Young Dumbledore is ... well, a bit better, I suppose. I just ... my brain seizes up anytime Dumbledore and sex are in the same sentence. Same for Voldemort (as opposed to Tom Riddle, whom I see as the young, handsome guy) Ah sorry, I meant a youngish Dumbledore. From what was in the summary it was more of a post-WW2 Dumbledore and Harry pairing. |
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Post by IceBlueRose on Jun 14, 2012 3:07:07 GMT -5
sherza - Completely agree on jokingly cowering. But it's when I see fics where they cower for real that I'm like ".....what?" I had to force myself to keep reading one where Lily, Ginny, and Hermione basically controlled the men in the room. Within a few chapters, I was wondering how the heck James had even fallen for this version of Lily because she was a shrew. I kept waiting for the Marauders to do something but James and Sirius were written pretty much as idiots and Remus was....just sort of there? I don't even know.
Kitty279 - Exactly! *points up at comment to sherza* I don't get that! The girls' tempers are not scarier than a Dark Lord set to murder them all or whatever. And if Sirius can handle Walburga for sixteen years, he can handle Ginny's glare or whatever for a few chapters with no issues.
And for the manners...yes again to what you said! Look at the stuff that comes out of Ron's mouth. That boy is not known for his tact but she scolds Harry when he simply thinks that Neville is accident prone and that it's probably good that he doesn't get in the air a lot? He's eleven! That happens pretty much with any adult figure when they're reading the first book - they all scold Harry for being rude when he thinks of Neville as clumsy or that moment when they're getting caught for being out about the dragon. Um, hello, he's eleven, folks. Let's look at your thoughts at eleven and see if you're a perfect example of manners and courtesy, shall we? Or are we going to find you thinking resentful thoughts about teachers and being less than polite about other students too?
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Post by kumainpink on Jun 14, 2012 3:12:12 GMT -5
I don't think I've ever seen one, because like heck am I going to look, but as ... strange ... as people are, it would NOT surprise me for there to be Harry/Dumbledore fics out there. *horrified full body shudder* Oh trust me sherza, there is one on ff.net that has slowly grown in popularity in the past month or so. (un)Luckly from the summary it is a young Dumbledore/Harry pairing. NOOOOOO! EWWWWW! KILL IT WITH FIRE! >=O |
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Post by Kitty279 on Jun 14, 2012 3:21:30 GMT -5
And for the manners...yes again to what you said! Look at the stuff that comes out of Ron's mouth. That boy is not known for his tact but she scolds Harry when he simply thinks that Neville is accident prone and that it's probably good that he doesn't get in the air a lot? He's eleven! That happens pretty much with any adult figure when they're reading the first book - they all scold Harry for being rude when he thinks of Neville as clumsy or that moment when they're getting caught for being out about the dragon. Um, hello, he's eleven, folks. Let's look at your thoughts at eleven and see if you're a perfect example of manners and courtesy, shall we? Or are we going to find you thinking resentful thoughts about teachers and being less than polite about other students too? YES! And you know, I'd always like to read a book where they read *Molly's* thoughts. What would you bet that she's always thinking nasty stuff about Sirius, the twins and who knows how many others - and that she would blow up if anyone dares to say anything? Besides, her own behaviour when it comes to Sirius doesn't gave me the impression that she has any manners whatsoever herself. He gave her and her whole family a safe home for free, and in turn she was a bitch to him. And she is screaming at people - great manners, yeah. Besides, it's such a huge injury of privacy when they are reading these books, and scolding Harry for things he only *thought* is not fair. He would never *say* it - something that wouldn't be true of Ron or probably Hermione (*cough*Luna and Parvati*cough*). Some people need to remember that. Even as adults, they would think stuff they'd never say, so how can they expect better from a child? |
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Post by kumainpink on Jun 14, 2012 3:30:08 GMT -5
EXACTLY, KITTY! EXACTLY!
You hit one of my biggest pet peeves on the head!
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Post by IceBlueRose on Jun 14, 2012 3:32:15 GMT -5
Oh gosh, right? I'm always boggled by Molly's treatment of Sirius in his own house - yes, she's helping clean it and she seems to be doing all the cooking but it's still not her house so a little respect would be nice. The fact that she can shout louder than Walburga is just...amazing. Can you imagine if they tried to scream at each other?  So true. The characters all always seem to forget that they're reading Harry's personal thoughts - ones that he's never ever voiced obviously, if the story's taking place in 4th or 5th year as they usually do (or he hasn't even thought them yet if it's the Marauders and Lily and the first Order reading it or something like that) but there's still always that reaction of "HARRY!" when he thinks something. (I always have to facepalm when Hermione does the scolding when you consider some of the stuff that comes out of her mouth towards others.) |
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Post by sherza on Jun 14, 2012 3:32:44 GMT -5
Oh, another pet peeve in RtB's.
The kids getting read the riot act for things they haven't even done yet.
I'm not talking about 'oh, bad idea to do that, please don't do that!' I'm talking about the full-on, verbal smackdowns and actual *punishments* levied for FUTURE ACTIONS. And only EVER on the kids. The adults that do wrong *always* get by with either nothing at all or a minor verbal scolding in fics that are guilty of this one.
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Post by codygotkilld on Jun 14, 2012 3:36:41 GMT -5
That is also one of my pet peeves. I hate when Molly constantly scolds the trio or twins when they read the books about past or future events. even when they tell her that this event has/hasn't happened she goes back to scolding them in two or three chapters. you would think it would get through her head that this is a past or future event she is griping about.
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Post by IceBlueRose on Jun 14, 2012 3:41:14 GMT -5
It's even worse when they're reading the books when the kids are all toddlers or before things have to hell in a hand basket on Halloween and they start yelling at their one year old kids for things that won't happen for another ten years or more, at least. I always literally facepalm when that happens.
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Post by Dimcairien on Jun 14, 2012 3:41:18 GMT -5
This thread has got me thinking about my own stories and I know that I've done some of these on occasion. I'm trying to edit my stuff and get rid of the overreactions and the like as they majorly annoy me now. It goes to show that I've improved as a writer.  |
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Post by Kitty279 on Jun 14, 2012 3:41:26 GMT -5
The fact that she can shout louder than Walburga is just...amazing. Can you imagine if they tried to scream at each other? No one would keep his hearing long enough to decide over the winner! Hermione is one of these who are complaining the loudest about the boy's manners and lack of tact, but she's not a paragon of tact, either. Actually, she's sometimes brutal, and Luna got one thing right - Hermione's not going to believe anything when you don't hit her over the head with the facts. In our story, we had already someone point out that before her Hogwarts letter came, Hermione would have said that things like magic, dragons, goblins etc. don't exist, and she would have been very insistent on that, IMO. But all of that exists. So, just because she doesn't have seen them, that doesn't mean they don't exist. But she is still rude because someone believes in them. Oh, another pet peeve in RtB's. The kids getting read the riot act for things they haven't even done yet. I'm not talking about 'oh, bad idea to do that, please don't do that!' I'm talking about the full-on, verbal smackdowns and actual *punishments* levied for FUTURE ACTIONS. And only EVER on the kids. The adults that do wrong *always* get by with either nothing at all or a minor verbal scolding in fics that are guilty of this one. Argh, yes. It's annoying the hell out of me. (And the worst is Harry getting spanked by Sirius for it!). Particularly Molly, Lily and sometimes Minerva are quite bad in that regard. But when Snape's his usual bastardic self, then it's just a disappointed look or "I trust him, and he's a spy, he needs to behave accordingly". No, he doesn't need to! *growls* |
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Post by sherza on Jun 14, 2012 3:51:19 GMT -5
double oy on Sirius spanking Harry. Maybe triple. First off, can we say hypocrite? Secondly, even post-Azkaban Sirius is too ... goofy ... to do something like that. Verbally express disappointment? Yeah. Raise a hand to Harry? Heeeeeeeeck no. Thirdly ... hello, abuse (by this, I do not mean that Sirius is abusing Harry, but that Harry has been abused, physically, and you have to tread carefully with physical chastisement in such cases until you know the kid *really* damn well)
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Post by IceBlueRose on Jun 14, 2012 3:53:20 GMT -5
This thread has got me thinking about my own stories and I know that I've done some of these on occasion. I'm trying to edit my stuff and get rid of the overreactions and the like as they majorly annoy me now. It goes to show that I've improved as a writer. I've never written a RtB fic before but I've definitely gone back and edited my stuff and it always amazes me when I look over stuff and suddenly I'm wondering why I did this or that, lol. So I feel you on that one! I'm slowly making my way through the fics here that I hadn't found on FFN so I can't wait to get to yours too! *snorts* We should send someone in there that we don't really care about then! They can lose their hearing and the last thing they'll hear is Molly and Walburga battling it out with their voices! This! Being a spy does not give you the excuse to act like an ass whenever you want and to forget how to be a decent human being. I mean, I get that James and Sirius bullied him back in school so he apparently thinks that means he's allowed to do the same to Harry but what the heck did Neville's parents do to him then? Because Snape is just horrible to Neville, right from the start. |
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Post by kumainpink on Jun 14, 2012 3:55:03 GMT -5
It's just really unfair.
Besides, for the major things that happen, was anyone else actually doing jack shit? It seems that time and time again it's up to Harry and co. who step up to the mantle.
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