Arthur Weasley deadbeat dad?

[ykickamoocow]

Depends on a lot of issues. There are plenty of fights at a school and randomly getting involved in other peoples fights is only going to make things worse. Ron will only get involved in a fight if one of his friends or his family is somewhat involved. He is not going to get involved in a fight between two people that he does not know and does not know what they are fighting about.

[Miss Wings]

What always has me pickled is Bill & Charlie? 2 men living on their own (until the marraige), how much money do they get for their jobs and do they actually send some of it home?

[Kitty279]

Really don't know. And would Molly take the money, what do you think? She needs it, but is rather proud, and I actually wonder on *what* she'd spend it?
Hm ... at the beginning of CoS, they had one Galleon and a few of the smaller coins in the vault. Later on, they had to pay 50 Galleons fine. Where did they get the money? Maybe Bill and Charlie *did* help out and we just didn't learn of it?

[Miss Wings]

when i think of arthur i think of my dad.

[dracosfairmaiden]

That makes me wonder if Bill or Charlie sent money from their jobs over to the family. I don't think Arthur is a dead-beat dad, I think it's more of a matter of lack of common sense when it comes to money. I wonder why Molly never got a job? I mean, I know she's a homemaker, but couldn't she find a part-time job at least?

[Miss Wings]

This is Molly were talking about here. Traditional wife. It also makes you wonder whether or not she may have pocketed a small amount of Harry's money. It's not as though he ever got statements is it?

[Kitty279]

That's what we have been wondering about earlier today. At the latest from summer 1992 onwards, when Ginny was off to Hogwarts, she didn't need to stay home all day, after all. As I explained, I could imagine her being too old-fashioned. Or she didn't get anything for being a blood traitor or because of her temper or whatever.

[ykickamoocow]

Jul 8, 2012 8:49:53 GMT -5 Miss Wings said:

This is Molly were talking about here. Traditional wife. It also makes you wonder whether or not she may have pocketed a small amount of Harry's money. It's not as though he ever got statements is it?

I highly highly doubt it. I don't like Molly but she is not a thief. I also think if someone was taking money like that from Harry's vault the goblins would tell Harry about it.

[Miss Wings]

I know but I wasn't there for it hehe Maybe she didn't have any skills jobwise? If I remember correctly she had Bill straight after leaving school. Might be wrong here.

[ykickamoocow]

I suspect Molly would really not have liked the idea of her children having sex before marriage.

[Kitty279]

Jul 8, 2012 8:53:07 GMT -5 ykickamoocow said:

I highly highly doubt it. I don't like Molly but she is not a thief. I also think if someone was taking money like that from Harry's vault the goblins would tell Harry about it.

Why would the goblins tell Harry about it when Molly had the key? They took it as completely perfectly normal that Hagrid had the key in PS, while Harry didn't even know anything about his vault. Dumbledore kept the key all these years, then Molly got it most of the time - and Harry had no way to control anything. I am always so tempted to say that Dumbledore made sure that each Gringotts letter was redirected at him - statements included.

[ykickamoocow]

Jul 8, 2012 8:58:58 GMT -5 Kitty279 said:

Why would the goblins tell Harry about it when Molly had the key? They took it as completely perfectly normal that Hagrid had the key in PS, while Harry didn't even know anything about his vault. Dumbledore kept the key all these years, then Molly got it most of the time - and Harry had no way to control anything. I am always so tempted to say that Dumbledore made sure that each Gringotts letter was redirected at him - statements included.

Hagrid was with Harry when he had the key. Also the Goblins are sticklers for the rules so they would make sure Harry knows of each transaction.

Also in PoA Harry accesses his account and also at one point when he sees the Firebolt for the first time thinks that while he wants it he should not get it as he does not want to waste all his money which to me implies that Harry was well aware of how much money was in his account.

[Kitty279]

So they are comfortable with a stranger having the key who is *not* the guardian? Molly even accessed the vault without Harry there. So that would imply that they accept everyone who has the key.

If they make sure that Harry knows about every transaction, why did he not even know the vault existed? Why do we never learn anyting at all about it? And that he thought that about the Firebolt can mean as well that he doesn't know what either the broom costs - he only realised it had to be a huge amount - nor what he has.

[ykickamoocow]

Harry was thinking about the firebolts price in direct relation to how much he had in his vault. Also you seem to be acting like Harry is a idiot who has no idea of money. It would not be hard to find out (in fact it would be very easy) if people other than himself are taking money out of the vault.

No offence but you seemed to have pulled this theory out of your arse with no evidence to support it.

[Miss Wings]

Actually the Firebolt said 'price on request'. He never asked anyone what the price was so who's to say that it wasn't as expensive as say, a car? (random choice)

[Kitty279]

And you have all the proof that Harry got the bank statements, right?

[G Novella]

On the note of Molly being a thief, I have to doubt it. Who runs Harry's vaults? Dumbledore. Can you imagine Dumbledore's reaction to the money being taken, even if it's not his? He technically has control of that money. As well, Molly's too proud to sink to taking anyone's money and admitting her sons and husband can't provide for the family. Just the idea of taking someone's money would destroy her own pride.

As for Charlie, I picture Charlie as working more like an intern and so for the first few years maybe not getting a lot. Once he probably got Norberta, and proved himself a bit, I can see his pay getting up. But at the same time, I can picture the Romanian galleon as being worth less in comparison to the British galleon (assuming the currencies work that way) to mirror the muggle world. So what he's making might not be enough to send back while affording his own equipment and etc.

As for Bill, I can see that he's got more money probably. His job seemed more stable, but I can see him investing more in himself (dragon leather boots anyone?) I think he'd offer money, but both Arthur and Molly would shut him down. Neither seemed to keen on taking help from anyone. That or they'd open his own account and put it towards his own finance for a future. Probably he'd need more money to finance himself in Egypt, and he'd probably work on a commission type of job. Depending on the size of the treasure, he'd get a certain cut of money, so there may have been periods where he wasn't doing too well himself.

Finally- The fine. I can see this as being paid off in small bursaries, or Arthur took a loan to pay it off immediately, and then paid the loan back.

[Kitty279]

Not saying that Molly *did* steal money, I just pointed out that she had access and *could* have taken more than just for Harry's stuff.

One more thing, Moocow: Harry never had money growing up, didn't learn to handle it, and I sincerely doubt he had much of an idea how prices and his own money related to each other. No one taught him, after all.

[eskimoRock]

Surely Harry must have had more money than what was in his vault anyway? I mean, the Potters are a rich family, because James was easily able to support Remus when they left school. They can't have put all their money into Harry's account, surely?

I highly doubt that Molly would steal from Harry. She counts him as a son, and they don't even accept charity, so why would they be willing to not take money when it was offered to them, but help themselves when it wasn't?

[kumainpink]

Holy shitcrackers! This topic grew a lot today!

And no, I don't think Molly would steal from Harry, though I have read good Molly bashing that has her doing it WITHOUT making it over the top. That sort of thing is rare, though.

[viralic1]

Lol, I took my Molly bashing WAY over the top, although I do feel kinda proud that mine is the first story I can think of with her as a Death Eater, instead of a manipulative bitch trying to steal his money.

[kumainpink]

O.O Awesome! Death Eater Molly for the win!

[Miss Wings]

Think I read that one. Seen quite a few of them. I know that dimi's using my jewish Hermione with my permission though..

[viralic1]

I've yet to see Death Eater Molly. I've seen Molly with Death Eater views, but I've never seen her as part of the actual Death Eaters.

[kumainpink]

Ah, Death Eater Molly...something just feels so deliciously wrong about it! :3

[Miss Wings]

I've read a Dumbleater before aswell..

[viralic1]

Lol, I got the original idea because I have a brain that can't shut up, and I was thinking over how bad she treated Fleur for seemingly no reason. Somehow my brain went from "She treated Fleur like shit" to "She's a pureblood bigot, and hate's Fleur because she's a 'halfbreed'", and from there it got to "She's a Death Eater."

[kumainpink]

Teehee *giggles* Your mind sounds awesome

[viralic1]

Not when I'm trying to sleep.

[kumainpink]

Jul 8, 2012 11:52:30 GMT -5 Miss Wings said:

I've read a Dumbleater before aswell..

*bursts out laughing* DUMBLEATER??

How in the heck does Dumbledore become a Death Eater? o.O