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Post by nightstar on Jul 8, 2012 2:16:27 GMT -5
I like how this is about Molly, yet we've gone completely off topic. *laughs* ;D Too True! Back on topic ----- Boo! Hiss! Down with Molly!  |
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 8, 2012 2:17:40 GMT -5
Something else about having access to Grimmauld Place, Dumbles has been there many times between OoTP and HBP and he never noticed the locket, even when they were cleaning up the place. To be fair, he wasn't present during the cleanings, but I'd have expected him to have a look at the dark stuff anyway. He brought a lot of schoolchildren into the house without bothering to make sure they can't be harmed. And really, Molly was an idiot. She's dead afraid to tell the kids anything at all about the war, BUT she forced them to help cleaning a house full of dark objects. And I can guarantee you, naive, simple Molly wouldn't know how to deal with it if something bad happened, you can't counter dark magic with household charms! Actually, that's one of my main reasons why I doubt Dorea was James' mother. Sirius should have mentioned them when he talked with Harry about that family tree. Always saw that as an one-time occurence, and influenced by the fact that they were already at the bottom of the pecking order in the Death Eater ranks after Lucius and Draco failed. She had nothing to lose. |
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 8, 2012 2:18:37 GMT -5
*chuckles*
I think I would have been okay with Molly if she hadn't talked badly about Fred and George in Goblet of Fire, and hadn't completely showed total favor toward Percy. I'm sorry, but that never sat right with me.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 8, 2012 2:21:49 GMT -5
Don't forget how she ignored the twins after they told her Harry was starved. And how she tried to keep important stuff from all of them.
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Post by nightstar on Jul 8, 2012 2:22:33 GMT -5
I can see all your points here, Kitty, but what if Sirius just thought Harry would have already been told about his family and so didn't think it was needed to give more information. Or even if he was stopped from explaining more---*Cough*Dumbledore*Cough*
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Post by ykickamoocow on Jul 8, 2012 2:23:15 GMT -5
I just thought of a really big eew I did the math Ginny and Harry are third cousins eeeeewwww that means their kids are their own fourth cousins oh the horror!! There not a lot of DNA relation in third cousins so it is not that bad. Its only bad with direct siblings and cousins. Anything further away that a cousin is not nearly as dangerous. |
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 8, 2012 2:23:56 GMT -5
Hm, that would be very likely. Sirius probably can't fathom that no one told Harry about his parents. And the interfering old codger ... yeah, I can see it being a mix of both.
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 8, 2012 2:23:56 GMT -5
Dumbledore is easy to blame for so many things... it's too easy because he makes it so.
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Post by mountaingirl777 on Jul 8, 2012 2:25:04 GMT -5
I like how this is about Molly, yet we've gone completely off topic. *laughs* ;D Too True! Back on topic ----- Boo! Hiss! Down with Molly! Lol |
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 8, 2012 2:26:49 GMT -5
There not a lot of DNA relation in third cousins so it is not that bad. Its only bad with direct siblings and cousins. Anything further away that a cousin is not nearly as dangerous. That may be, but when the cousins are already inbred, then that multiplies the risks a bit, I'd think. |
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Post by brokenquill92 on Jul 8, 2012 2:27:48 GMT -5
Biggest problem with Molly is how her mothering endangers the lives of those around her
1. Stopping Harry Ron and Hermione from planning in Deathly Hallows
2. Withholding information about the first war in Goblet of Fire
3. Stopping Harry from getting information from Sirius Order of the Pheonix
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Post by nightstar on Jul 8, 2012 2:28:15 GMT -5
Oh man, is it easy to set all the events and problems at the ever so esteemed feet of the old codger. Back on topic, Molly prizes herself as an excellent mother and yet shows blatent favoritism, gives many of her children no support, and doesn't listen to them.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 8, 2012 2:30:13 GMT -5
Yeah, when you go back to the first post in this thread, you can see all the reasons why I think she's a bad mother. I always wondered why so many think she's the perfect mother.
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Post by brokenquill92 on Jul 8, 2012 2:31:17 GMT -5
I just thought of a really big eew I did the math Ginny and Harry are third cousins eeeeewwww that means their kids are their own fourth cousins oh the horror!! There not a lot of DNA relation in third cousins so it is not that bad. Its only bad with direct siblings and cousins. Anything further away that a cousin is not nearly as dangerous. I suppose so and in other cultures it's no where near as taboo as the States I'm not sure about Britian but I know the Japanese have no problem with that sort of thing if anyone's seen the anime Elfen Lied |
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Post by nightstar on Jul 8, 2012 2:34:32 GMT -5
Well, it's 2:33 am, my time and I need to sleep. Will chat more later.
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 8, 2012 2:35:24 GMT -5
Goodnight  |
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Post by nightstar on Jul 8, 2012 2:39:08 GMT -5
Thanks!
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 8, 2012 3:19:41 GMT -5
Another thought. Molly was always mollycodding her children. So, why could she not put featherlight charms on their trunks, but forced them to carry these heavy things around? Or shrink them, so they didn't have to bother with that at all? She's always so eager to treat them like babies, but does nothing to make their life easier when it would have any practical use.
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 8, 2012 3:21:47 GMT -5
Honestly, no answer for that Kitty. It's a bit odd, if you ask me.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 8, 2012 3:23:14 GMT -5
Reinforces that these wizards don't have any common sense - that's the only explanation I can find  |
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Post by viralic1 on Jul 8, 2012 3:24:10 GMT -5
I actually kind of questioned why she or Arthur didn't do that, especially since we know in Harry's first year it took both Fred and George to get Harry's trunk up onto the track, and Harry had the bare minimum, not included other things he wanted to buy.
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 8, 2012 3:26:08 GMT -5
Yeah, those trunks are terribly heavy...she should have been smarter than that.
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Post by viralic1 on Jul 8, 2012 3:28:25 GMT -5
Yeah. Either that, or why not teach them the Shrinking charm, so they could do it themselves once they got on the platform.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 8, 2012 3:28:42 GMT -5
Plus, Fred and George are two years older and less underfed ...
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Post by sherza on Jul 8, 2012 3:33:52 GMT -5
Yeah. Either that, or why not teach them the Shrinking charm, so they could do it themselves once they got on the platform. But but but ... they're not supposed to learn magic before Hogwarts! And they're not allowed to do magic outside of school, and the train is most certainly not school! How dare you suggest such a thing! |
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 8, 2012 3:34:48 GMT -5
Then Molly should have done it for them...
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 8, 2012 3:36:04 GMT -5
Which would have made life easier for her babies, but no, we can't have that.
Honestly, I don't understand that woman.
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 8, 2012 3:39:35 GMT -5
Me neither... *sighs* She's a nightmare to figure out at times.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 8, 2012 3:41:46 GMT -5
I'm so tempted to wonder about inbreeding in her family, too ...
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 8, 2012 3:42:40 GMT -5
I'm under the impression that all pure-blood families are inbred.
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