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Post by physicssquid on Jul 5, 2012 16:51:53 GMT -5
I would guess about 5'8-9" at the most. I don't count the films in here because honestly Dan is NOT Harry Potter in my mind, the thing that always makes me growl is why the couldn't at least give him GREEN contacts. *huffs* They tried doing green contacts back when filming Philosopher's Stone, but he had an allergic reaction to them or something like that. Whatever the reason, he couldn't wear them. They could still have made his eyes green with CGI. They were already putting things like Dobby into scenes with CGI, so I'm sure green eyes couldn't have been too difficult. |
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Post by Dimcairien on Jul 5, 2012 17:03:42 GMT -5
Well, now something like that wouldn't be too difficult, but in the early 2000s, CGI was pretty expensive to use. I know all of the HP films have used it, but you can tell that the quality has improved since the first movie because of the advances in technology. Yes, they probably could have used CGI to make his eyes green, but for most people that's a really small detail and it probably would've been to expensive.
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Post by physicssquid on Jul 5, 2012 17:24:50 GMT -5
True, and Warner Bros didn't seem to care whether they got the small details right or not. They did cast brunettes as Dudley and Petunia, even though both were described as being blond in the books.
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Post by Kaiserin on Jul 5, 2012 17:42:54 GMT -5
yeah, and it isnt like hair dye is rare or really expensive
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Post by blackroses77 on Jul 5, 2012 22:29:53 GMT -5
yeah, and it isnt like hair dye is rare or really expensive I'm glad they didn't. The woman cast as Petunia (Fiona Shaw?) was a perfect Petunia but she would have looked horrible with blond hair the same goes for Mathew Lewis (Neville), he was perfect for the part but would have looked horrible with his hair dyed and imo I would rather have the wonderful actors that played these parts then someone else who got the part because they had the right hair color. Same with Dan's eyes, imo and in the words of Emma Watson he is and always will be the perfect Harry Potter (including his height ;D). It would have been a waste for them to spend the money to cgi his eyes. I hate to think what would have been cut out of the already butchered films so they could afford to cgi Dan's eyes in every shot. As to Harry's height I always pictured him to be short and whenever I read fanfic I picture him as around 5'5-5'8. I HATE when fanfics make him taller then 5'10 and will ignore every reference they make to his height and change whatever discription they make to fit with a shorter Harry. |
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 6, 2012 0:09:18 GMT -5
I just can't see Ginny being perfectly happy after being possessed and forced to petrify a load of students at eleven, and her parents clearly didn't get her any help for that. I can't see any of those four not needing help of some sort after everything they've been through. Agreed. Molly would believe that smothering her with hugs and kisses, and stuffing her with food and never talk about it again because she's too young for that would do the trick. That sentence at the end of CoS that Ginny was perfectly happy again was always annoying me, because it was so totally unrealistic. And yes, they would need some help, most of all Harry, who has been through to much even before the war. Though I somehow doubt there are proper mind healers - or did Dumbledore just ignore the need of his pawn for one? |
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 6, 2012 0:13:59 GMT -5
I think Dumbledore ignored Harry's needs, and that the Wizarding World isn't as capable of dealing with mental illness as the Muggle World is.
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Post by sherza on Jul 6, 2012 0:24:19 GMT -5
That sentence at the end of CoS that Ginny was perfectly happy again was always annoying me, because it was so totally unrealistic. To be completely fair, that was *Harry's* perception of Ginny ... right smack in the middle of the Great Hall during a Feast. It is *entirely* possible that Ginny was being very 'stereotypical British' and doing the stiff-upper-lip thing in public, and falls apart in private. God knows I wouldn't have wanted to be all freaked out and twitchy and whatever with some four hundred plus people watching me. No way in hell. |
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Post by Dimcairien on Jul 6, 2012 0:25:27 GMT -5
Regarding the sentence about Ginny being perfectly happy, I think she was putting on an act. I don't think she's the type of a person to show weakness, especially in front of her older brothers and 'the saviour of the wizarding world, whom she has a crush on and just saved her life', not to mention the rest of Hogwarts. I know when I was 11 I wouldn't want to show weakness in front of people like that.
sherza: nice simul. ;D
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Post by sherza on Jul 6, 2012 0:26:08 GMT -5
Exactly!
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 6, 2012 1:04:08 GMT -5
True, it was probably an act, but the whole series was downplaying the mental strain of what happened to Harry, too, and in his case we know all the 'help' he got was a pat on the head and being sent back to Durskaban. Sure, he did hide his problems (nightmares) as well, but it still annoyed me that nothing was done to help him or Ginny.
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 6, 2012 1:10:21 GMT -5
Me too, Kitty. It's one of my biggest peeves with the series in general.
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Post by sherza on Jul 6, 2012 1:12:29 GMT -5
True, it was probably an act, but the whole series was downplaying the mental strain of what happened to Harry, too, and in his case we know all the 'help' he got was a pat on the head and being sent back to Durskaban. Sure, he did hide his problems (nightmares) as well, but it still annoyed me that nothing was done to help him or Ginny. No arguments whatsoever there, kitty. |
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Post by lucyolsen on Jul 6, 2012 6:27:30 GMT -5
I do think it is possible that Ginny actually was genuinely happy. For a few hours, while the party was going on, because the entire thing was finally over.
Then she'll go home, have some nightmares, and Dumbledore will somehow fix the lottery so they can take her our of the country for a while. (No, seriously, I don't believe that, but it seemed like such a lucky coincidence and he's the only one with enough power to do it).
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 6, 2012 9:22:16 GMT -5
Still think a mind healer would be better thanbeing fussed over and mollycoddled by Molly.
But I like the idea with Dumbledore fixing the lottery.
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Post by physicssquid on Jul 6, 2012 9:37:33 GMT -5
I wouldn't want to be fussed over and mollycoddled by Molly anyway. She's too overbearing for my tastes, and honestly, I would have thought that Harry, Ron and Hermione would have mentioned that they were getting irritated by it, instead of Harry merely thinking that he's fed up.
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Post by viralic1 on Jul 6, 2012 9:40:42 GMT -5
I would have gone insane. I'm way too independent, the first time she tried to pull that crap on me I would blow up on her.
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Post by ykickamoocow on Jul 6, 2012 9:40:50 GMT -5
Ron has been so mentally beaten into submission by Molly over the years that i could not see him standing up to her like that.
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Post by physicssquid on Jul 6, 2012 9:43:19 GMT -5
Unfortunately, I can understand that about Ron, but what about Hermione?
Plus, I'd have thought that Harry, being a fairly independent guy, would have said something.
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Post by G. Novella on Jul 6, 2012 9:52:43 GMT -5
But Harry did like her coddling too since no one ever coddled over him before. He disliked it as he got older and she wasn't letting him be a part of the war. To a certain degree, Molly was Harry's first real maternal figure in life, and he never wanted to ruin that relatiomship with her. Hermione just doesn't say anything to adults or try and tell them off. Adults are always right  |
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 6, 2012 10:05:23 GMT -5
Am I the only one whom it strucks funny that Hermione agreed with Molly, despite Molly being the most vocal about keeping her from knowledge, something Hermione believes to be entitled to?
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Post by viralic1 on Jul 6, 2012 10:06:26 GMT -5
I just thought it was another plot hole in the story.
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 6, 2012 12:16:56 GMT -5
Me too. And while fixing it would be a good chance for the Weasleys to get away, that would have left one less safe place for Harry to run to. He doesn't know where Hermione lives, after all, and he sent Hedwig away, so there was no way of locating Hermione.
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Post by physicssquid on Jul 6, 2012 12:24:06 GMT -5
Plus she was on holiday in France anyway. Her letter to Harry said that she wouldn't be back in England until a few days before term began again.
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 6, 2012 12:29:25 GMT -5
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. *facepalm*
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Post by Kaiserin on Jul 6, 2012 19:05:14 GMT -5
Ok pet peeves thread just reminded me of why Harry would potentially not be vertically challenged. Fawkes cried on him not once but twice and have could have healed every thing wrong with him and not just the venoms in his system.
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 6, 2012 19:07:57 GMT -5
While that is a good point, I just want to point out that Phoenix tears can't possibly be a magical cure all for every thing. If that were the case, why didn't Dumbles have Fawkes cry on Alice and Frank? I think that the venom must have been severe enough to be the the only focus of Fawkes' tears.
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Post by physicssquid on Jul 6, 2012 19:18:02 GMT -5
The phoenix tears may be part of it, but I still think Pomfrey gave him nutrient potions to counter-act any problems he might have had, without telling Dumbledore.
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Post by chikina on Jul 6, 2012 19:46:07 GMT -5
But Dursleys have never starved Harry. Everybody is making a big deal of the three days in second book. In fact he said himself that he wasn't starved and in the first book his punishment was to go to bed without dinner (which he had because he sneaked for food). That's not something weird. In his age I hated food and ate once a day and it didn't harm me in any way. I have outgrown my mother. Harry had normally three meals a day. He had probably less then Dudley but then that's just for the best (I don't think you want Harry to be the same size as Dudley). I think that fannon is influencing you too much. Yeah Dursleys were never nice to Harry but they were rather "barking instead of biting". They mistreated him, yes, and the three days can be called abuse but I don't think they would ever starve him so much it would stun Harry's growth.
By the way sorry for my English. It's not my first language.
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Post by physicssquid on Jul 6, 2012 20:16:10 GMT -5
But Dursleys have never starved Harry. Everybody is making a big deal of the three days in second book. In fact he said himself that he wasn't starved and in the first book his punishment was to go to bed without dinner (which he had because he sneaked for food). That's not something weird. In his age I hated food and ate once a day and it didn't harm me in any way. I have outgrown my mother. Harry had normally three meals a day. He had probably less then Dudley but then that's just for the best (I don't think you want Harry to be the same size as Dudley). I think that fannon is influencing you too much. Yeah Dursleys were never nice to Harry but they were rather "barking instead of biting". They mistreated him, yes, and the three days can be called abuse but I don't think they would ever starve him so much it would stun Harry's growth. By the way sorry for my English. It's not my first language. I agree about them not starving him, I just don't think they fed him enough, which tells me they did feed him, except during those three days in book 2. He still got food during the summers, even if it wasn't healthy food, and as I said earlier, I think Pomfrey gave him nutrient potions when he was in the hospital wing. There's also the possibility that Molly may have done something similar when she sent those meat pies that were mentioned in book 4. |
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