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Post by hollywollypolly on Jun 13, 2012 14:36:03 GMT -5
Personally I like Ginny, she is one of my favorite characters.
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Post by Silvertongue on Jun 13, 2012 15:06:21 GMT -5
Not a fan really. I found Harry's crush on her rather sudden. I'm not against her in canon really but maybe all the Slash fics I've read have bashed her too much for me to like her a lot. Anyway I prefer Gay!Harry.
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Post by isk2837 on Jun 13, 2012 15:14:38 GMT -5
I'm pretty neutral to her myself - I don't particularly dislike or like her, and have enjoyed fics where she's good and fics where she's bad equally. She wasn't developed enough in my opinion considering she was Harry's main love interest, and I didn't always like her in HBP (mainly when she was being horrible to Fleur, though Molly and Hermione were certainly guilty of that as well). That said, while Harry/Ginny isn't my favourite pairing, I have no problem with it. They seem well-matched in terms of interests (and the claims that she looks just like Lily is nothing more than Harry/Ginny haters trying to justify their hatred IMHO. Either that or the fic where the claim is made is humour - come to think of it, most of the fics I've seen where this claim is made are humorous). I believe that she grew out of being a fan girl in the end, and that any apparent suggestion that she used love potion on Harry was accidental on JKR's part rather than a deliberate thing. Ginny probably wouldn't get half the hate she does if JKR had written more about Harry's developing friendship and romantic feelings for her, so they didn't seem to come out of nowhere, found a better way to describe Harry's feelings than a monster in his chest, and hadn't had Harry's feelings develop at the same time as love potions became prominent in the story - I'll bet less people would have thought 'she's using love potion on him' if there hadn't been so many other girls trying to drug Harry at the same time.
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Post by tabethac on Jun 13, 2012 15:18:51 GMT -5
I found her quite annoying to be honest throughout the books. I also thought that Harry's crush in Half Blood Prince to be too sudden as well. I was convinced we were going to find out that Ginny used a love potion. I thought she was too forward and kind of obnoxious starting from OOTP. It was like the books went from her being a small background character to thrown head first into the forfront. I don't think she was developed enough. The romance went far too quickly for me. I agree with isk2837 that it would have been better had JK moved things more slowly so that we saw a budding friendship that turned into him liking her. As it is, it was like BAM he loves her. And like I said before, I found her character to be quite obnoxious in OOTP and a bit in HBP.
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Post by Silvertongue on Jun 13, 2012 15:20:47 GMT -5
That's probably true, but even then there would always be the people who like to think every character is gay (I'm guilty of this myself) and like to think a main character should be with another main character (Hermione), so yeah. It would change a lot of opinions but there'd still be Me's. Hehe.
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Post by sherza on Jun 13, 2012 15:33:13 GMT -5
Who?
Really ... Ginny is the ghost of the Harry Potter series. We see VERY little of her at any point. Certainly not enough to form much of an opinion about her.
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Post by codygotkilld on Jun 13, 2012 15:44:35 GMT -5
Who? Really ... Ginny is the ghost of the Harry Potter series. We see VERY little of her at any point. Certainly not enough to form much of an opinion about her. I agree wit her being a near ghostlike character. I just don't understand how Harry suddenly falls in love with her in the 6th book. Beforehand, she was in like 15-18 chapters and only had a few lines here or there. Hell, I think we see Luna in more scenes then we do Ginny. |
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Post by dracosfairmaiden on Jun 13, 2012 15:53:27 GMT -5
I'm kind of neutral towards her. I admire her courage and her toughness. I just felt like their relationship happened too fast in canon. I like thinking that they took a few months after the war to get to know each other.
I do think she only liked Harry because he was the 'Chosen One' or the 'Boy Who Lived'. Tom Riddle even knew Ginny was writing about being Harry's wife and she was only in her first year! I think that's just being fan-girlish. Plus she kept snapping at Ron when he was going out with Lavender when she was going out with Dean Thomas. I like Ginny a little but I don't believe she's right for Harry.
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Post by sherza on Jun 13, 2012 15:54:52 GMT -5
I agree wit her being a near ghostlike character. I just don't understand how Harry suddenly falls in love with her in the 6th book. Beforehand, she was in like 15-18 chapters and only had a few lines here or there. Hell, I think we see Luna in more scenes then we do Ginny. This is exactly why so many folks get so paranoid about Harry's attraction to Ginny. She says, at most, ten or so lines in Harry's presence from the moment he meets her until Harry's Fifth Year, when she's in the DA with him, and finally gets a bit more 'screen time' ... at which time Harry is crushing on Cho. Even then, she only gets five or so lines in this book ... an increase from the previous ones, but still not much. Add in that literally everything we see of her in her first year is completely debatable as to whether or not it's her true personality ... and we've got *maybe* a solid month's worth of interaction (that we see!) spread over three years, to get a feel for who she is, and all of a sudden he's eyeballing her. Uh HUH. |
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Post by OculisCaeruleis on Jun 13, 2012 16:05:49 GMT -5
I've always thought she was a bit of a Mary-Sue to be honest.
Beautiful, popular, funny, athletic, best friend's little sister, little to no character development...
And then BAM! Main love interest.
As for Harry/Ginny as a couple... I kinda support the love potion theory. It makes sense.
Also, one must wonder how much of Harry's interest in Ginny stems from his eagerness to be a real part of the Weasley family...
The argument that Harry loves Ginny because she looks like his mother is just wrong. Not only is it gross, but also redhead-ist (not a word but I think you get the point).
I mean, I'm a redhead and so is one of my best friends. I have blue eyes, she has blue/green eyes and we both have freckles, yet we look nothing alike. We've never been mistaken for each other. In fact, I've been mistaken for brunette friends more than I have other redheads.
Ginny looking like Lily is just an excuse anti-H/G shippers use, IMO.
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Post by Silvertongue on Jun 13, 2012 16:08:04 GMT -5
Adding to the Mary-Sue thing is the fangirlism.
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Post by Trilonias on Jun 13, 2012 17:42:57 GMT -5
I'm just going to say that Ginny has to be one of my favorite characters in the series, despite or perhaps because we don't have much on her. Most of it is from what the readers can infer, and I for one like her Tomboy like personality. She's one of the few characters whose eye color is mentioned, and she's been there, noticed by Harry every so often since he first met her.
Admittedly, I do wish she had more screen time, but what I learned of her put her as Harry's equal. She's fiery and passionate, even if some of that goes the wrong way (insulting Fleur, Ron...). I certainly do not see her using a love potion against Harry, mostly due to her life debt, her poverty (Where would she get the materials for love potions so quickly and to keep brewing them for so long?), her actually dating others and her temperment. Also, they don't last that long, so Harry would've felt differently for her over the course of DH simply because she wasn't there to give him any dosage. And yet if anything, his feelings for her only grow.
As for the fangirlism, I can't accept that excuse. If I did, then Harry might as well have been a life long bachelor.
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Post by sherza on Jun 13, 2012 18:04:55 GMT -5
See, there's a difference between being a fangirl ...
And planning to marry the poor bastard from the time you're 11, and being completely incapable of anything remotely resembling coherence and competence when anywhere near the person you're fangirling.
See, I have little doubt that many of the girls at Hogwarts were fangirls to one extent or another at one point or another in their lives. Now, of those girls that interacted with him during his Hogwarts years, how many of them were reduced to blushes, stammering incoherence and fleeing when in his presence?
That's right, only one. Ginny Weasley.
Every other girl that attends the school manages to not act like a complete moron, though admittedly Romilda Vane is ... creepy as hell, with the love potion. Still, she managed to be coherent when around Harry, which is more than can be said for Ginny *before* the bloody journal became a factor.
And this is the girl he ends up marrying. Yeesh.
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Post by Trilonias on Jun 13, 2012 18:25:43 GMT -5
Everyone reacts differently... and I'm sure that Harry didn't notice the others who did the same. And I bet hundred of witches were the same.
As for coherence and competence, I saw that as the crush, not fangirlism. Crushing does that. She got over that.
We'll never know, as JKR never stated. I'm sure there were quite a few though. Harry did the same with Cho as well. So Ginny is the only mentioned, since she was the only he noticed.
Yeah, around Harry's sixth year. Just how many other students did he not interact with? A whole bloody school of them! Let's not forget the fact that most of those same students turned on him on a whim. Ginny at least stayed true.
I'm just going to say we're going to disagree on Ginny. We interpret things differently. Nothing wrong with that.
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Post by mountaingirl777 on Jun 13, 2012 18:35:28 GMT -5
I don't particularly like her. I think she is childish and immature. She is spoiled, in the "only daughter" way not the "I am rich" way. She is rebellious and I can't stand it, it isn't like the rebelliousness of the twins or of Harry, Ron and Hermione (yes, I think those three are rebellious in their own ways). I don't like how she treats Ron in the 6th book and how she wants Harry but can never get the courage to do it, which make me one of those people who think she might have given him a love potion.
I will read some stories of Harry/Ginny if they are good, but usually I try to find other pairings.
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Post by rikustark on Jun 13, 2012 19:57:28 GMT -5
I'm not really a fan, there's just something about her character I just dislike. Maybe if we got to see a little bit more of her character in books 3&4 and her development through-out those books, maybe I would like her more.
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Post by Trilonias on Jun 13, 2012 20:05:51 GMT -5
I agree on wishing to see more of her character so we can get a more canon idea of her... but since the majority of these books are in Harry's POV and he isn't around Ginny that often when the author described the scenes... we don't get much of her. Honestly, we don't get much of a LOT of people.
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Post by angelty on Jun 13, 2012 21:09:59 GMT -5
I yeah I wish she was has more of part in movie and books to explain her character little better p.s I am Ginny shipper  |
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Post by mountaingirl777 on Jun 13, 2012 23:32:59 GMT -5
I yeah I wish she was has more of part in movie and books to explain her character little better p.s I am Ginny shipper And maybe someone else to play her. Seriously, I believe Bonnie Wright turned me off to Ginny. I was fine when I read about her and my imagination of what she looked, sounded and acted like were different. Bonnie wasn't who I was thinking of. I read the books after watching the movies and I have a totally different look on her character. |
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Post by Trilonias on Jun 13, 2012 23:43:04 GMT -5
Never saw the movies... and most of the art I've seen/liked... look nothing like the actor from what photos of the movies I've seen. Ah well.
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Post by sherza on Jun 13, 2012 23:59:18 GMT -5
And the other way around works too ... some things, once seen, cannot be unseen.
Alan Rickman is ... only superficially like Snape. Too tall, etc. Yet ... having seen his performance before reading the books ... yeah. Can't unsee that.
Actually makes the books better, though. Rickman is DAMN good.
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Post by angelty on Jun 14, 2012 0:52:50 GMT -5
I yeah I wish she was has more of part in movie and books to explain her character little better p.s I am Ginny shipper And maybe someone else to play her. Seriously, I believe Bonnie Wright turned me off to Ginny. I was fine when I read about her and my imagination of what she looked, sounded and acted like were different. Bonnie wasn't who I was thinking of. I read the books after watching the movies and I have a totally different look on her character. I agree with you, Bonnie did not The Character Ginny any good. But she kind cute |
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Post by mountaingirl777 on Jun 14, 2012 0:57:21 GMT -5
And maybe someone else to play her. Seriously, I believe Bonnie Wright turned me off to Ginny. I was fine when I read about her and my imagination of what she looked, sounded and acted like were different. Bonnie wasn't who I was thinking of. I read the books after watching the movies and I have a totally different look on her character. I agree with you, Bonnie did not The Character Ginny any good. But she kind cute I like her smile, it is kind of enduring, but that is all I like about her. Bonnie during the interviews is a totally different person than Bonnie playing Ginny. I see Ginny as what Bonnie portrays in her interviews, if she had taken that with her during filming, I probably would have liked her more. She made Ginny out to be very quiet and not out going as I see Ginny. I know Ginny doesn't talk to Harry until the 5th or 6th book, but she still hung out a lot, I see her as a milder version of the twins. |
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Post by angelty on Jun 14, 2012 0:59:14 GMT -5
Same here, I think part of Director make Bonnie play quiet Ginny
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Post by Silvertongue on Jun 14, 2012 17:19:19 GMT -5
I agree with the Bonnie Wright thing. She definitely put me off Ginny in the first place. Especially the first view of her in CoS at the Burrow, the expressions he pulls makes her look like an insanely creepy stalker. Why does she widen her eyes THAT much. It's scary.
Snape... Alan Rickman is most DEFINITELY Snape. The voice especially. But when I read, I have a different image in my. It's sort of based on Alan Rickman but there are slight differences like him being slimmer and maybe slightly taller.
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Post by codygotkilld on Jun 14, 2012 17:25:39 GMT -5
I agree with the Bonnie Wright thing. She definitely put me off Ginny in the first place. Especially the first view of her in CoS at the Burrow, the expressions he pulls makes her look like an insanely creepy stalker. Why does she widen her eyes THAT much. It's scary. Snape... Alan Rickman is most DEFINITELY Snape. The voice especially. But when I read, I have a different image in my. It's sort of based on Alan Rickman but there are slight differences like him being slimmer and maybe slightly taller. It also doesn't help that Rickman was in his mid-50's during the first movie then early 60's during the last. How the hell was e supposed to play a character who was in his 30's is beyond me. Then again, I still have a hard time not seeing him in Robin Hood and GalaxyQuest LOL. ;D |
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Post by Silvertongue on Jun 14, 2012 17:28:16 GMT -5
I think if it was canon that he was crucioed quite often by Voldemort, then he'd probably look quite a bit older than he was from all the stress. But not that much older...
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Post by mountaingirl777 on Jun 14, 2012 17:45:20 GMT -5
I think if it was canon that he was crucioed quite often by Voldemort, then he'd probably look quite a bit older than he was from all the stress. But not that much older... how do you know Voldemort did that to him? |
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Post by G. Novella on Jun 14, 2012 17:46:04 GMT -5
See, I like Ginny. From the little we see of her, she has a lot of the characteristics about Ron and Hermione that Harry likes (passion, courage, humor, etc) , and I can see him falling for her. She wasn't fleshed out that well in the books, and I hated that. The movies, Bonnie Wright was terrible. She made Ginny seem, boring and blah. The idea that Ginny looks like Lily is weird as hell. Lily never had freckles as far as I heard, and she had green eyes.
As for Snape being Alan Rickman, my friend has a theory. She believes that Alan Rickman was created using black magic and is actually Snape XD
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Post by Silvertongue on Jun 14, 2012 17:54:44 GMT -5
I think if it was canon that he was crucioed quite often by Voldemort, then he'd probably look quite a bit older than he was from all the stress. But not that much older... how do you know Voldemort did that to him? I don't, which is why i said if it was canon. It probably isn't canon at all but I doubt he went through the servitude to him without ever displeasing him and we've all seen what happens to people who do that. It may not have been crucio but the fear and stress itself is enough to create wrinkles. |
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