never noticed

[roxy06]

Ok so to be honest I've read the whole series more than 100 times, but there are still new things that notice when I reread them.

So what are some crazy connections that happen in one book to another that you never noticed.

For me it was actually forever before I connected the sirius black in book one as Harrys God father. What about y'all.

[Nahara46]

I always see something new, like after twenty reads I noticed that Hepzibah Smith and Zacharias Smith could be related as they share a last name . And I only recently managed to connect that the Cho chang in Fourth and Fifth was the same Cho as in the third.

[devil101]

I took me quite a few reads to realise that Erised meant Desire and that Erised stra ehru oyt ube cafru oyt on wohsi is mirror for I show not your face but your hearts desire

[roxy06]

Have you ever noticed that Dudley was beating up some kids w the last name Evans? Wonder if he was related to lily

[Dimcairien]

JK confirmed that Mark Evans wasn't related to Lily and regrets using that name there. I don't know if she had decided on Lily's surname at that point or not, but anyway, it was accidental that they ended up with the surname. But I chose to ignore this, and have made Mark and Harry second cousins in my world.

What I didn't realize until a few reads is that the Marauders died in the opposite order than the order they're listed in on the Marauders' Map: Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot, and Prongs.

And then there are all the bits of foreshadowing that take place throughout the books. It's always fun to re-read and discover those.

[Nahara46]

Like Hagrid talking about how mad it would be to rob Gringotts in the firts book? That always makes me giggle.

[Dimcairien]

Yeah, that's a main one that comes to mind, but what I also found interesting was that most of Mrs Weasley's boggarts came true in a way. Her boggart was loosing her family, and Ron, Arthur, and Bill all nearly died, with Fred actually dying.

[Nahara46]

That's very sad

[roxy06]

Or when Fred told Ron they would have to fight a troll for the sorting, then they actually did a few months later.

[Kitty279]

Or that Vanishing Cabinet in Knockturn Alley where Harry hid after that misadventure with his first floo travel in CoS ... in the same book, it was mentioned that Peeves damaged the other one. Became a new meaning after re-reading it after HBP came out.

[Silvertongue]

I missed all the tiny things in descriptions that probably actually mean nothing but somebody had Moody pointing it out in their RTB fic (can't remember who or what the fic was). It was little things like eyes and snakes being mentioned in COS all the time. Then traitors and lost pieces of anatomy in POA and Scabbers being mentioned so much.

[Dimcairien]

I know! I too cannot remember the name of the author or series at the moment, but I think I've read that one as well and it's surprising how observant that author is.

[G. Novella]

I never noticed that Voldemort, Snape, and Harry parallel the three brother's story until I saw a GIF.

[Chameleon]

I think you're talking about RoseDragonWitch's fics, which is on this site. I love her fics.

[Chameleon]

Really Gnovella? Alright... Voldemort is Cadmus. Harry is Ignatius (or whatever his name was)... and Snape is the brother who killed himself because of a girl, he loved! It's obvious, when you think of it. Was a bit confused about Snape.

Now I wonder if J.K. meant to do it, or if it just happened.

I still find the fact about Harry and Voldemort's eyes and their favorite curses color pretty funny. Don't know why. It's just ironic.

[Silvertongue]

They are also the opposite colour to their Houses.

[Chameleon]

Lol, that's true. Houses, curses and eyes... *shakes her head*.

[voice-on-the-wind]

It took me awhile, but I finally noticed that, if you follow the timeline correctly, Harry was left in his destroyed house, by himself, with two dead bodies for just under 24 hours before Hagrid, Albus, and Minerva left him at the Dursleys. Now it bothers me every time I read that first chapter, though no one else seems to make a big deal out of it.

[Silvertongue]

I have seen some people address it, but not properly. It bugs me, too, though.

[Chameleon]

Hagrid also says that he took Harry, before the muggles arrived... But the Fidelius charm died, when the house was destroyed, so the muggles should have arrived long before Hagrid. Hmpf.

[physicssquid]

How do we know that it didn't just take nearly a whole day to get him out and across the country to Privet Drive? Especially given the description of the damge done to the Godric's Hollow cottage in book 7.

[Nahara46]

And there is always the hopeful possibility that Hagrid brought Harry to Madam Pomfrey before going to Privet Drive.

[Kaiserin]

Dumbledore "knew" that lily died for harry, when the first time he should have heard of it was when harry woke up at the end of book 1.

[voice-on-the-wind]

If Hagrid took Harry to Madam Pomfrey, I'd think it would take longer. When I timed it out on paper, I based the distances off of the fact that it takes less than a day to get from London to Hogwarts (in Scotland) by train. A motorcycle goes as fast as a car, and Harry and Ron's flying car could keep u with the train in CoS. Plus, I think Godric's Hollow and Surrey are closer together than Hogwarts and London, so Hagrid should not have taken close to a day to go from Hogwarts to Godric's Hollow (probably fairly quickly, because he didn't yet have the bike), and then to go from Godric's Hollow to Surrey.

Also, they must have known about it fairly quickly if Minerva was hanging around Privet Drive ALL DAY.

I just don't understand how the two timelines match up, because there is so much extra time not accounted for, in my oinion.

sorry for the essay, can you tell I've obsessed over this a little??

[physicssquid]

I always thought that Godric's Hollow was somewhere in Wales, and that Hagrid had to fly slower than the bike's top speed to avoid jostling Harry too much. Therefore it would have taken slightly longer to get to Privet Drive than if he was flying at top speed. There's also the question of where in Surrey Privet Drive is, and whether Hagrid knew exactly where he was going. He may well have got lost, which would delay him even more.

Plus, there's the possibility that even if Hagrid was flying at top speed and didn't get lost, he may have had to move slowly when getting Harry out of the cottage, so as not to dislodge any lose stones or bits of masonry, or even to avoid making too much noise, which would have attracted attention.

[voice-on-the-wind]

Those are good points that I didn't consider, thanks.

Though, that doesn't explain why Minerva and Albus showed up at Privet drive at two completely different times. If Albus had sent Hagrid out sooner rather than later, why did it take him, personally, so long to get there, when from every indication he apparated? Since he always seems to know more than he says or implies, I have to think he knew Hagrid would take longer than simple unseen complications or judgement calls can account for, but WHY it would take longer I still don't know.

Also, apparently Sirius didn't show up at Harry's house for awhile either, though his explanation of trying to find Peter first makes a lot more sense.

I dunno, the whole thing just bugs me in general, I suppose. :/

[Chameleon]

Perhaps Minerva just wanted to get hold on Albus, who she knew, would come ... Or something like that. I can still not for the life of me figure out why Minerva stayed there all day. I wouldn't have the patience, and I don't know what else she got out of the day, except confirmation that the Potter's were dead, and Harry survived. Well, perhaps she didn't want to believe it, unless Albus confirmed it, as she seemed to be close to Lily and James.

[Kitty279]

You're not the only one. It's one of the plotholes for me - as is the question how they knew about the attack so quickly, why Dumbledore sent Hagrid instead of investigating himself. Shouldn't he want to see all evidence for himself to find out what happened? Plus, Hagrid wasn't in on the secret, but how did the Fidelius fail if the secret was hidden in Peter, who was still alive? And he wasn't even a fully trained wizard, and though he could resist more curses than the human wizards, he wasn't invincible and couldn't defend himself well from an attack. And the time just doesn't really fit, either.
Besides, if Sirius hadn't offered his bike, how was Hagrid supposed to get Harry to Privet Drive? Walking?? No. Apparation? Hagrid very likely doesn't even have a license, seeing as it's a sixth-year-thing and he was expelled in third. So, what was he supposed to do?

[voice-on-the-wind]

I agree about Minerva sitting around all day seeming pointless, but I do agree with her motives, and apparently she expected Hagrid and Albus to show up earlier, so why she thought that would happen when neither man appeared to see it the same way, I don't know.

[Kaiserin]

where did the dementor in GOF come from? why would fudge have one around for the thrid task/awards ceremony? and if it was called in after harry and cedric why was only fudge with it and no dmle employees?