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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 29, 2012 15:43:14 GMT -5
Could that have to do with NC-17, as I am still used to call what FFN loves to call MA?
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Post by lucyolsen on Jul 29, 2012 17:04:30 GMT -5
Well, it shows my age too, because Lois and Clark was my first fandom.
Guess where my username came from...
And Kitty, the "n" in nfic stands for "naughty," believe it or not.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 30, 2012 0:24:48 GMT -5
LOL - love that! Naughty Fic ... ;D
Thanks for explaining!
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Post by barryc100588 on Oct 4, 2012 22:52:12 GMT -5
PG-13 in writing is basically mild-moderate swearing, mild-moderate violence, no gore, no sexual content, mild suggestive themes. Basically, you can say the mild swears, like damn and hell, and possibly the two b-words, if in proper context. (For example, you can say "the bastard son of the king", but you probably can't use the word as an insult. Same with b****.) You also can't launch any f-bombs. You can have some descriptions of violence, like punches and mentioning bleeding wounds. You can't describe dismemberment or other forms of gore. The no sexual content speaks for itself.
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Post by Kitty279 on Oct 5, 2012 0:27:10 GMT -5
Personally, I believe that children nowadays see much worse on TV. Never understood why some websites are so paranoid about it. But I suspect it's a cultural thing.
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Post by teflonbilly on Jan 18, 2013 16:22:50 GMT -5
Personally, I believe that children nowadays see much worse on TV. Never understood why some websites are so paranoid about it. But I suspect it's a cultural thing. Not so much cultural as paranoia of criminal and civil litigation. Criminal litigation for possibly being accused of providing pornography to a minor. Civil litigation from the owners of the intellectual property for diminishing the value or ruining the property's value through associating it with smut. Both bring the risk of extremely high legal bills even if they are vindicated in court. Overall I understand ffnet's risk adverseness with regards to this, but I still find it annoying. TB |
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Post by Kitty279 on Jan 19, 2013 2:43:58 GMT -5
If that was their problem, why not make the NC-17 stories depending on signing in with your age and block the younger ones? Besides, there are whole archives of highly explicit stories out there where you can get in with no login and all. And no one seems to have a problem with these. It seems strange to me.
But how do they feel legally threatened by the descriptions of a little sex - which can even be educational with some teenagers - while having no problems whatsoever with extreme violence? Personally I think that would harm children more than the description of some petting ...
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Post by teflonbilly on Jan 21, 2013 22:58:05 GMT -5
If that was their problem, why not make the NC-17 stories depending on signing in with your age and block the younger ones? Besides, there are whole archives of highly explicit stories out there where you can get in with no login and all. And no one seems to have a problem with these. It seems strange to me. But how do they feel legally threatened by the descriptions of a little sex - which can even be educational with some teenagers - while having no problems whatsoever with extreme violence? Personally I think that would harm children more than the description of some petting ... Because they would still be open to liability for diminishing the value of the intellectual property. And it isn't for those authors to decide what is "educational" for minor children, that is for their parents. Which in many countries the legislature has made it illegal to provide pornography to minors exactly because it is for the parents to decide and therefore not to be made accessible to minors. And the argument about violence vs. sex is not going to be decided by FFnet. There are a whole host of arguments going both ways, and I respectfully disagree that violence and sex are comparable things. A three year old understands violence, while children for the most part do not have the emotional development to fully understand sexual matters. Which is why, for the most part, a child can handle being spanked but not being sexually groped; one is violent and often painful and the other isn't necessarily physically painful but it is mental/emotionally scarring for a great many children. TB |
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Post by Kitty279 on Jan 22, 2013 5:01:57 GMT -5
Well, I can see your point here. Though I don't see how spanking compares to torture in graphic detail, and I don't think seeing/reading that would be any more damaging than reading about some sex. You can show what is right and what wrong in both cases, sex and violence. Besides, a three year old should *not* have to understand violence, in my eyes. It's as wrong as sexual assault to me.
Maybe it's the fact that I have grown up in a country where things are seen differently. Spanking is increasingly frowned upon, and I think our view on sexuality is much more open than in some other countries. That may have a lot to do with it.
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