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Post by Kitty279 on Aug 10, 2012 8:17:58 GMT -5
It gives you the feeling it's mostly jealousy, not the need to keep up rules, doesn't it? If they want to do the site any good, they should target Jo Bekke and My Immortal and the likes instead. But no, they drive the good authors off. Well, if the staff is accommodating them much longer, then I'll just leave altogether. It was hard enough to find the few good stories buried in all the rubbish on FFN, but if they are deleting them and only leave the stuff that's unreadable to me, I am not interested any longer.
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Post by weasleyatheart99 on Aug 10, 2012 8:30:55 GMT -5
I really don't understand these people. I mean really if JK Rowling complained then ya maybe it would be alright. Fanfiction in itself is illegal. You are using Characters settings and plots that you do not own.
Most authors are pleased that people write fanfiction about there books. It shows that they made a memorable and loveable story.
RtB fics are great. They allow different perspectives to be viewed and understood.
However the one thing I hate is when CU's don't have a single story written or even Favorited. It makes them seem like they just go around reporting stories. They do seem to target the good RtB fics though.
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Post by Kitty279 on Aug 10, 2012 8:40:38 GMT -5
I really don't understand these people. I mean really if JK Rowling complained then ya maybe it would be alright. Fanfiction in itself is illegal. You are using Characters settings and plots that you do not own. Exactly. That's what I said, too. lol, not all are happy about it, but I think the last sentence is only too true. Yes, that makes their appeal for me, too. It's amazing how different some parts can be seen and judged, isn't it? With people commenting on every little thing, it gives you a whole new understanding of and outlook at the books. But that's exactly what they do - they probably can't write anything even halfway decent to save their lives. So they go around and take it out on people who are better than them. |
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Post by princedice1 on Aug 10, 2012 8:56:57 GMT -5
So who's still writing RTB type stories?
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Post by brokenquill92 on Aug 10, 2012 9:07:32 GMT -5
I am
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Post by truestblue on Aug 10, 2012 9:33:40 GMT -5
This CU seemed to me to be standing on shakey ground as far as morality is concerned. Afterall haven't most schools gone through great lengths (with the approval of the goverment) to help prevent and discourage bulling? Many politians have even used the topic as a running platform; so if there's all these people up in arms about bullying than why does this CU still exist?
Bullying is after all the attacking (phsyical, emotional, or verbal) of another that they have singled out by usually belittling and generally making the target uncomfortable and/or even fear for their life.
FF.Net condones this?
Yes everyone has the right to free speech but no one has the right to infringe on OUR RIGHTS to feel safe and to be treated like human beings.
Yet the CU does.
FF.Net disgusts me that they are allowing them to remain under the excuse of free speech. Responsible, decent, pepole would let them know that although they are entitled to their opinion, that they need to RESPECT other HUMAN BEINGS and try to express it in a manner less hurtful. (After all 'Fuck off' and 'Please, go away' both get the message across, but I know which one I rather hear and/or use.)
But since they won't I doubt I'll be at that site much longer, any one know about any other sites? I'm aware of AdultFanFiction.net and Archive of Our Own but are there any other sites with some good stories?
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Post by jeeva160889 on Aug 10, 2012 9:44:58 GMT -5
Your Fanfiction has just started, there is hpfandom, some RTB fics can be found on LiveJoournal.
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Post by eskimoRock on Aug 10, 2012 9:46:52 GMT -5
I'm still writing RTB, i just set up my mailing list this morning. Its nice, it makes me feel like I'm still doing something.
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Post by G. Novella on Aug 10, 2012 9:49:38 GMT -5
I'm fine with editting mine for YourFanFiction, it makes me feel happy spiting them and knowing they can't touch my story on another sight  And this is just a question, but the fem-harry RTBs, can they even be deleted? I mean, the story is alterred :/ |
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Post by melodypottersnape on Aug 10, 2012 9:50:19 GMT -5
What has happened to the CU I find almost pathetically sad. I read somewhere that the CU wasn't supposed to be doing what it is right now. They were created originally to be something like betas, but now majority of the people who are apart of the CU have perverted it. Instead of giving critisim on how to better their stories they now bully writers into doing what they want. I just think it's terrible how something that was created to originally be helpful has turned into a bullying organization
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Post by Dimcairien on Aug 10, 2012 10:19:16 GMT -5
I'm still writing RtBs and nothing is going to stop me from finishing, especially as I'm halfway through HBP i one. I've worked on it for over two years and I'm determined to finish it.
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Post by physicssquid on Aug 10, 2012 10:37:27 GMT -5
I'm still writing RtBs, and there is nothing anyone can do to stop me.
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Post by jeeva160889 on Aug 10, 2012 11:28:11 GMT -5
Me too... I am happy posting it on Your Fanfiction with their conditions! The CUs cant do anything about it too. I am also posting it on LJ and the yahoo group. I will start a mailing list to those who would like me to do so! Lets see what the CU's can do now.
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Post by mountaingirl777 on Aug 10, 2012 11:34:36 GMT -5
CU seems to have it in for only GOOD stories. Every story so far that I know about being deleted were wonderful stories written well. One that they got deleted I would have happily paid for. If they want to do some good they should bloody well start with the thousands of fanfic that are illegible due to the complete lack of punctuation and grammar. Or worse, when they have a character that is suicidal or a victim of rape and one hug/kiss from their love magically fixes them. These are the fics that they have a very valid reason for deleting, I would be in complete support of these being removed as they do more harm them good. But no, these are apparently perfectly okay to allow people to read. I suspect the majority of these I've ever had the displeasure of reading was written by a CU member. I've noticed that. It seems like they are hitting the popular authors because I still have some RtB in my favorites that aren't that great (still wondering why I favorited them) grammar wise or plot wise.....there are even ones still on the list that only have a comment here and there and were ones that I thought would be deleted in a snap because of the small amount of their own work compared to JK's. |
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Post by Dimcairien on Aug 10, 2012 11:44:27 GMT -5
What has happened to the CU I find almost pathetically sad. I read somewhere that the CU wasn't supposed to be doing what it is right now. They were created originally to be something like betas, but now majority of the people who are apart of the CU have perverted it. Instead of giving critisim on how to better their stories they now bully writers into doing what they want. I just think it's terrible how something that was created to originally be helpful has turned into a bullying organization I know, I was looking over their policies just to get an idea of what they are about and I found that I agreed with the idea of constructive criticism. I enjoy getting that, even though sometimes my feelings are slightly hurt, but constructive criticism is good. As long as I'm told what I did wrong and how to improve it, I'm very thankful. Flaming is when you're basically told 'you suck' and aren't given specifics in what's wrong nor how to fix it. You know, I'm starting to wonder if my stories are harder to find because I don't have 'Reading the …' in the title. From what I've noticed, it seems that the majority of the ones that were deleted were popular ones that were easy to find with a simple search. So, I'd say that ambiguous titles are the way to go. And yes, I do wonder why it's the really good ones that disappear. I'm just thankful that there is the safe haven of yourfanfiction and the CU can't touch it. |
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Post by jeeva160889 on Aug 10, 2012 11:54:10 GMT -5
You know, There is a community on FF.net specifically for RTBs and it is called Time to read the Harry Potter Books! And there are more that 900 fics over there! Are they trying to get the CUs to notice the books that are not readily available on the search option?
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Post by unbeastly on Aug 10, 2012 11:58:42 GMT -5
Well we hope CU won't be able to touch us there but if anyone posting on yourfanfiction gets any threats let us know on here. I suggest we band together and take them on. Complain immediately to the staff and instruct the morons to read the sites guidelines. They've forced these stories of two sites so far and I'll be damned if I allow them to force us of a third without a fight.
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Post by mountaingirl777 on Aug 10, 2012 12:06:27 GMT -5
You know, There is a community on FF.net specifically for RTBs and it is called Time to read the Harry Potter Books! And there are more that 900 fics over there! Are they trying to get the CUs to notice the books that are not readily available on the search option? there are a few communities for RtBs. there are two that I have put on alert... |
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Post by penumbria on Aug 10, 2012 12:07:00 GMT -5
Not just two sites. FFnet, here, Wattpad is in the process, and I know they are on others as well.
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Post by mountaingirl777 on Aug 10, 2012 12:08:50 GMT -5
Well we hope CU won't be able to touch us there but if anyone posting on yourfanfiction gets any threats let us know on here. I suggest we band together and take them on. Complain immediately to the staff and instruct the morons to read the sites guidelines. They've forced these stories of two sites so far and I'll be damned if I allow them to force us of a third without a fight. I was warned by the staff not to post my RtB on YFF because they were looking into the legalities of the stories because of complaints.....so it is there too. |
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Post by jeeva160889 on Aug 10, 2012 12:11:38 GMT -5
I was warned by the staff not to post my RtB on YFF because they were looking into the legalities of the stories because of complaints.....so it is there too.[/quote]
But, it was put up that we can post RTBs as long as we edit even one paragraph?
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Post by jeeva160889 on Aug 10, 2012 12:12:43 GMT -5
I too have subscreibed to the community, but i was just wondering if that would just make it easier for the CUs to delete those fics too.
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Post by TitansRule on Aug 10, 2012 12:30:13 GMT -5
I think the important thing is for as many of us as possible to keep writing (I understand that some people have personal issues that are stopping them and I don't blame them for that) - because if we all sit down and say "Alright, we give up", we let CU win. And I don't know about you, but that's not something I'm willing to let happen.
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Post by Dimcairien on Aug 10, 2012 12:37:04 GMT -5
I think the important thing is for as many of us as possible to keep writing (I understand that some people have personal issues that are stopping them and I don't blame them for that) - because if we all sit down and say "Alright, we give up", we let CU win. And I don't know about you, but that's not something I'm willing to let happen. Completely agree. I'm not the type of person to give up, especially when it's something that I enjoy and writing is one of my favorite things to do. Giving up means giving in. |
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Post by physicssquid on Aug 10, 2012 12:41:16 GMT -5
Nor am I. I am not the kind of person to lie down and let the CU do what they want.
I can understand people stopping because of personal problems or because they don't want any possible legal problems to affect their communities, but those who are stopping just because they're scared is something I don't understand. Heck, even if there is a time when no website accepts RtBs, I still won't stop writing. I write because I want to write, not for the readers, because that would just take the fun out of it.
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Post by Kitty279 on Aug 10, 2012 12:51:38 GMT -5
Glad to know I will still have some stories to read later on  We had made a shared account some time ago for the stories we were writing. Today, we sent a mail to FFN and told them why we are disgusted with their site and don't want to be connected to it any longer, and asked them to delete the account. Not sure if anyone even reads these mails, but maybe they do at least delete the account, as we can't do it ourselves. (I wonder if that's deliberate to hide how many have probably left in disgust?) |
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Post by unbeastly on Aug 10, 2012 13:19:16 GMT -5
The CU are a bunch of self-important busy bodies. Unless they are all lawyers working for the publishers and authors they have absolutely no bloody right to keep demanding these stories be deleted. They have no power other than intimidation through repeated complaints. The site administrators just need to block messages sent from these morons and tell them to get lost.
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Post by Kitty279 on Aug 10, 2012 13:22:20 GMT -5
That's what common sense would think, but obviously, the admins rather support them and give them free rein. Oh well, if they want to ruin their own website, they are doing a good job of it.
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Post by unbeastly on Aug 10, 2012 13:40:50 GMT -5
So should we message the administrators ourselves asking them to ignore the CU or hope that they are not the cowards ff.net and proboards are.
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Post by Kitty279 on Aug 10, 2012 13:46:56 GMT -5
We can, but I doubt it is of much use. They must be buried under complaints already, and it didn't keep them from obliging the Cyberbully Union eagerly, right?
Btw, admins on which site?
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