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Post by werewulfking on Aug 8, 2012 15:19:23 GMT -5
Well with me it is easy as I always read books very fast and therefore can return them the next time I work there.
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Post by Dimcairien on Aug 8, 2012 15:30:35 GMT -5
I got my library card when I was about eight. The first time you use it, I think ten books was the limit to check out. Then, it bumps up to 50 books maximum that are checked out on the card at once. The first card is free, and I don't know if a replacement cards costs or not as I haven't lost my card. Every couple of years, you get a new card simply because of wear and tear. We can keep books out for three weeks, plus two renewals, to the most you can keep a book out is nine weeks. For every day after that, there is a 25¢ fee per book. They send out an email two days before the books are due letting you know, and if something is late, you get an email that day.
I don't think there is an age with stuff, besides movies, and you have to be 18 to check them out. I have gotten an odd look sometimes with the books I check out as I'm an advanced reader. It doesn't happen much anymore as I'm older, but it did happen every so often during my early teens.
Also, what's really nice, is the library I'm a part of is a system for my county. So, I can use my card at any of the county libraries and request a book from any of the libraries. The fee for a request is 25¢ per book, so it makes it really nice if you want a book that's currently checked out.
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Post by eskimoRock on Aug 8, 2012 15:55:13 GMT -5
My library has a system where you can rent out books on iPads and kindles, so I think I'm going to try and work that out
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Post by Chameleon on Aug 8, 2012 16:00:27 GMT -5
Oh... If you rent it on the iPod, it should be easier to return.
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Post by eskimoRock on Aug 8, 2012 16:02:00 GMT -5
Yeah, it just takes it automatically out of your ebook librar once your 21 days is up, so it means no late fees!
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Post by Chameleon on Aug 8, 2012 16:09:11 GMT -5
Ooh... Awesome ... I really need that. My library hasn't done that yet... And I can't borrow anything on the library in my mother and brother's home, because I don't live in the neighborhood. You need some code, or something like that. And my mother and brother don't officially lives there either. Their address is still where we live.
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Post by Sailorgreeny on Aug 8, 2012 16:12:11 GMT -5
I got my library card when I was about eight. The first time you use it, I think ten books was the limit to check out. Then, it bumps up to 50 books maximum that are checked out on the card at once. The first card is free, and I don't know if a replacement cards costs or not as I haven't lost my card. Every couple of years, you get a new card simply because of wear and tear. We can keep books out for three weeks, plus two renewals, to the most you can keep a book out is nine weeks. For every day after that, there is a 25¢ fee per book. They send out an email two days before the books are due letting you know, and if something is late, you get an email that day. I don't think there is an age with stuff, besides movies, and you have to be 18 to check them out. I have gotten an odd look sometimes with the books I check out as I'm an advanced reader. It doesn't happen much anymore as I'm older, but it did happen every so often during my early teens. Also, what's really nice, is the library I'm a part of is a system for my county. So, I can use my card at any of the county libraries and request a book from any of the libraries. The fee for a request is 25¢ per book, so it makes it really nice if you want a book that's currently checked out. It's been some time since I last went to the library, but where I live we also have a system for the county. I actually live very close to a library so I could just walk right over to it, but I would have to renew my card as it's been years since I last used it.
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Post by princedice1 on Aug 8, 2012 16:42:15 GMT -5
Is the RTB's becoming a dying genre with the recent purges?
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Post by readingdeatheater on Aug 8, 2012 16:58:45 GMT -5
If we let RtB die out then the idiots who came up with the purge will start to do it with other things as well because they think that they can make us do whatever they want. all we would do is give them more power.
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Post by physicssquid on Aug 8, 2012 17:36:55 GMT -5
I bloody hope it isn't becoming a dying genre. I do hope people won't give up writing them, because if they do, that means the idiots have won. I certainly won't give up writing whatever the hell I want, despite how insane the ideas my brain comes up with are. I don't care what the idiots in the CU say.
I thought the idea behind fanfiction was to see what the fans could come up with ,and RtBs are just another way to explore the worlds the original authors created. This is why I don't agree with the idea that people who write RtBs are mocking the books. IMO, RtBs are another way of honouring the original books, a way of saying, this is worth it, this is how I think the characters would react if they were forced to read their own stories. It wouldn't work with some fandoms, especially not the ones set in the real world, and don't feature anything supernatural, but it definitely does in fantasies and sci-fi.
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Post by Dimcairien on Aug 8, 2012 17:47:31 GMT -5
I bloody hope it isn't becoming a dying genre. I do hope people won't give up writing them, because if they do, that means the idiots have won. I certainly won't give up writing whatever the hell I want, despite how insane the ideas my brain comes up with are. I don't care what the idiots in the CU say. I too hope that the RtB stories don't die out as they're one of my favourite types of stories to read. Completely agree. the RtBs can help you see what some of the meaning behind the stories are. I know I've gotten a lot of understanding form various RtBs and also, several interesting things to think about. And yes, RtBs normally are honouring the original books.
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Post by mountaingirl777 on Aug 8, 2012 19:05:09 GMT -5
I bloody hope it isn't becoming a dying genre. I do hope people won't give up writing them, because if they do, that means the idiots have won. I certainly won't give up writing whatever the hell I want, despite how insane the ideas my brain comes up with are. I don't care what the idiots in the CU say. I too hope that the RtB stories don't die out as they're one of my favourite types of stories to read. Completely agree. the RtBs can help you see what some of the meaning behind the stories are. I know I've gotten a lot of understanding form various RtBs and also, several interesting things to think about. And yes, RtBs normally are honouring the original books. It also gets a look into what people think about things in the book since the comments from the characters are what the author is thinking. Like the stuff about dumbledore, ect.
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Post by crystaldawndouglas on Aug 8, 2012 19:40:54 GMT -5
would the one of you that have live journal mind e-mailing me what your live journal is so that i can keep up with your stories thanks by the way my e-mail is crystaldawndouglas@yahoo.com. i have also started to write my own story on my live journal in case anyone wants to read it its crstaldouglas.livejournal.com thanks again crystal
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Post by princedice1 on Aug 8, 2012 20:22:29 GMT -5
I don't think we should give those literary death eaters known as CU the pleasure of scaring us away from writing RTB's.
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Post by physicssquid on Aug 8, 2012 20:54:50 GMT -5
They certainly haven't scared me away. Apart from the one I started to put up in my little area of googlesites, I also have one other on the go, and a third practically complete, though the two that I've got on the go have very similar timelines associated with them, as though one happens years after/before the other.
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Post by eskimoRock on Aug 9, 2012 4:53:03 GMT -5
Mine finally got deleted from fanfiction last night
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Post by kumainpink on Aug 9, 2012 4:54:06 GMT -5
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Post by blackroses77 on Aug 9, 2012 8:50:09 GMT -5
Unfortunately CU is winning as some of the best stories are being discontinued the one I'm most upset about is Isilarma's story.
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Post by Miss Wings on Aug 9, 2012 8:52:31 GMT -5
is still waiting for me to be deleted.. will keep on posting it though
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Post by mountaingirl777 on Aug 9, 2012 15:07:10 GMT -5
SerenaSnape's story got taken off Wattpad, just got a message from her.
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Post by mountaingirl777 on Aug 9, 2012 15:11:07 GMT -5
I don't think we should give those literary death eaters known as CU the pleasure of scaring us away from writing RTB's. For some of us, like me and Ginnyrules, it isn't about being scared of the CU itself. It is about the consequences that might happen if we fight back. I live at christian base and if legal action is taken against me about this, it really doesn't look good for me or the base itself. I'm a part of a community and when one person falls, the rest go with them, like a family. I don't want to give my actual family or the base I live at a bad name just because I wrote an illegal story and didn't go by the rules......
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Post by penumbria on Aug 9, 2012 15:16:28 GMT -5
Yep, yesterday it disappeared and it was an award winner from last year, too. That guy Big Fan is on Wattpad, he contacted me when I explained about CU to another author who lost their story on Wattpad, so it is definite that CU is active there, it wasn't just a coincidence.
The thing is Wattpad's rules for posting are actually incredibly strict if you read them as is (not as they are interpreting them). They state "Do not upload copyrighted material for which you do not own the rights to or have permission from the owner." By a direct reading of that without excepts or buts, it says that fanfiction is not uploadable since that is using copyrighted materials (characters, worlds, situations, etc) that the fanfiction authors don't have the rights to. So posting fanfiction on Wattpad is dangerous in and of itself if they decide to fully enforce that rule. Some sites just have rules about RtB (called MSTs) but Wattpad is much more open ended.
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Post by mountaingirl777 on Aug 9, 2012 15:22:48 GMT -5
yeah. You know what gets me is that FFNet and others have decided to do this without warning, when it isn't stated that they will pull stuff without warning. They should put that on their TOS so we know what to expect, that they will not give warning. I just went and checked another site's TOS (Mibba.com) and they warn that they will pull accounts without saying anything. If it isn't on the TOS, then don't do it! Please tell us what you are going to do.
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Post by princedice1 on Aug 9, 2012 19:03:47 GMT -5
I can understand where you coming from and the reasons why.
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Post by TitansRule on Aug 10, 2012 1:41:33 GMT -5
If fanfiction isn't allowed on Wattpad, why does it have fanfiction as a category? I thought as long as you put the right copyright disclaimer, you were fine.
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Post by Kitty279 on Aug 10, 2012 1:44:39 GMT -5
That doesn't make any sense, no. Mountaingirl is right, common sense seems to have gotten lost for these people. Or is the CU behind it, and the Wattpad administration as willingly bowing to their wishes as FFN?
There are really moments when I wonder if they are going to ruin *all* fanfiction archives, just so they can feel they have accomplished something in their pathetic lives. Am I too negative? Maybe. But watching what was going on over the last few months is really bringing my most cynical side out.
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Post by mountaingirl777 on Aug 10, 2012 3:28:44 GMT -5
I'm wondering if the "complaints" are actually threats to shut the sites down if the admins don't comply to what the person (whoever it is.....keep in mind that it might not actually be a CU member, there are other people out there who act on their own accord and have these same ideas) wants.
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Post by Kitty279 on Aug 10, 2012 3:47:56 GMT -5
Maybe, but it makes no sense to delete everything separately. Whoever is behind it could just take it slowly and then, after they have deleted many thousands of fics, still force them to shut the whole site down. It would only be a 'long defeat', to quote Galadriel, and the Admins should know that they would still be prone to further blackmailing when they bow to that in the first place. Even more so as they don't only delete stories that actually are violating their TOS.
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Post by werewulfking on Aug 10, 2012 4:50:30 GMT -5
Well if it concerns fanfiction I don't know why sites would feel pressured to delete it. I think that there is this law in the USA, the one that appears under all youtube videos, about fair use and I think fanfiction would fall under that definition.
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Post by unbeastly on Aug 10, 2012 6:22:25 GMT -5
CU seems to have it in for only GOOD stories. Every story so far that I know about being deleted were wonderful stories written well. One that they got deleted I would have happily paid for.
If they want to do some good they should bloody well start with the thousands of fanfic that are illegible due to the complete lack of punctuation and grammar.
Or worse, when they have a character that is suicidal or a victim of rape and one hug/kiss from their love magically fixes them. These are the fics that they have a very valid reason for deleting, I would be in complete support of these being removed as they do more harm them good.
But no, these are apparently perfectly okay to allow people to read. I suspect the majority of these I've ever had the displeasure of reading was written by a CU member.
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