J.K Rowling vs. Stephanie Meyer

[hollywollypolly]

J.K Rowling is a much better writter than Stephanie Meyer and here are the reasons why:

1.)She knows how to spell and she is much better at grammer than Meyer.

2.) She stuck to the orignal creature if they were already well known or in myths and made them cooler. Stephanie Meyer makes Vampires look bad and made them lose their dignity. I have no respect for vampires now.

3.) She sends women back to the 60's. "Oh. I can't live anymore without my Edward-might as well just jump off a cliff." Oh Bella move on please. J.K Rowling makes most of her female characters independent and badass.

4.) J.K Rowling actually looked up the Latin words for her spells, her creatures, some items and other things.

5.) Rowling actually makes people believe they can do things. Lessons include: Love is the most powerful magic there is. If you work hard, you'll always win in the end. You'll have to choose between what is right and what is easy,Choose the one you think is right.

6.) Meyers- Pick your boyfriend very carefully.

7.) In an interview of Meyer, and the resporter asked, "How do you deal with people who don't like your books?" and you know what Meyer said? She said, "Oh, those people have just read the books to much!" Well, she should hope so! Whats the point of the book if your not going to reread it until you've memorized every chapter?

8.) People (ex. Stephen King) have already said Rowling is a better writter than Meyer.

9.) Rowling wanted to be a writter her entire life while Meyer jut became one from a creepy dream. Dumbledore once said 'Not to dwell on dreams.' Meyer you just got owned!

10.) Rowling even helped out a little in the making of Deathly Hallows part 2.

I could go on but in my Opinion J.K Rowling is a much better writter.

What is your opinion?

[rikustark]

Psh. JKR has always been better then SM, I even thought that when I went through my shameful phase of liking Twilight. No comparison.

[sherza]

Meyers is, to put it bluntly, horrifyingly bad.

1) She evidently did not have access to a thesaurus at all, because I've *seen* graphs online that count the number of times she uses certain words, and it SCARES ME

2) Anyone who uses 'rainbow sparkles' deadly seriously in regards to someone's appearance has forfeited the right to exist.

3) Her books have *horrifying* underlying messages. To whit
a) Care only about the looks of your boyfriend
b) If your boyfriend stalks you, it means he really loves you
c) A girl's sole concern is to get married and have babies.
d) Girls cannot exist without a boyfriend/husband.
e) Education and employment are of no concern to a girl. A girl's only concern should be getting married and having babies.

4) I don't even know where the hell to start with the whole werewolf imprinting bullshit. It's so horrifyingly creepy and paedophilic, not to mention stalkerific and ... GAH! ... it makes me want to invest in mass quantities of brain bleach.

5) Renesmee. Just ... everything about her, from conception to birth to ... gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

[dracosfairmaiden]

My biggest peeve with Meyer is that VAMPIRES DON'T SPARKLE!

[kumainpink]

Renesmee and anything mentioning imprinting is rather disgusting to me. I could deal with shimmering vampires, but imprinting on a baby...FUCK NO!

[eskimoRock]

While I can put up with Twilight, the whole "imprinting" thing creeps me out. If somebody walked into a hospital, saw a minute-year-old baby and fell in love with her, following around for ever, he could probably be arrested. How is that romantic?

[dracosfairmaiden]

Yes, the imprinting thing is creepy. Good thing I never read twilight.

[Serena R. Snape]

I read the books a few times, and got over the whole "OMG, Edward is so HOT! JACOOOB BE MINEEE!" a few days after I read the first book. XD

Anyway, I agree that JKRowling is a much better writer than Stephenie Meyer. Meyer completely destroyed my viewing of Vampires. Sure, I could understand them being beautiful and "vegetarian"... but to make them sparkle??? She's out of her mind.

And there was Bella. She had a somewhat good character, until she met Edward and then she was all, "My Adonis!" "I can't live without Edward." "Where are you Edward?" "Edward" "Edward" "I want to be a Vampire" "Vampire" "Vampire" "Don't want to get old" "Old" "Sparkle" "Edward" and so on.

And the fact that all Edward and Bella do is kiss each other, look at each other, think of each other,... but they don't talk or listen to each other. Edward keeps going over what Bella wants and says, and Bella ignores Edward most of the time when he keeps saying that he's dangerous. And then she just accepts him back without a thought when he leaves her in New Moon.

Don't get me started on the whole imprinting business. Sure, I don't mind Werewolves in the book, but did she have to add the imprinting business as well? That was just too much.

And the whole pregnancy bit? Eww. Did Stephenie had to add that part into the books?

[eskimoRock]

The way she falls apart completely when Edward leaves her annoys me. It gives out the impression to young girls that they can't live without a man.

Another thing, the way Jacob treats her! He's a complete idiot to her through all the books, even telling her that he'll kill himself if she doesn't kiss him, but she doesn't let him go even though she knows how much it hurts the one she supposedly can't live without. There's all these girls talking about how they would choose Jacob, but he's just manipulative. How is that one of the options for her?

[TeamSirius]

The entire message of Twilight is awful. People are more in love with the idea of Edward and Jacob more than anything else, but they're just fantasy (and even then SM can't even do that properly). At least Harry Potter sent out the message that love is the most powerful force there is and for the right reasons: a parents love, friendship, eventual relationships. It was a progressive thing.

But the one thing that bugs me the most is Bella's personality or lack thereof. She's just this plain, clumsy thing that is more of a Mary Sue than Ebony from My Immortal (one of the worst HP fanfics out there, for anyone who didn't know). She can't do anything for herself without Edward. She used Jacob when he left her. She's just a terrible character and a bad role model for people out there. It's just proof SM can't write to save her life.

[dracosfairmaiden]

Bella annoys me. The way she just falls apart when she's away from Edward is awful. And what about the fact that Edward watches her sleep? That's called being a stalker.

[Silvertongue]

It also gives teenage girls a ridiculous idea of how their boyfriends should be, and terribly high standards.

[kumainpink]

The Host wasn't a bad book though. Not great, but a far better read than Twilight.

[Silvertongue]

Yeah, though I've only read that book the once.

[Miss Wings]

plus JK also included real people.

Bagshot or rather Bagehot- Bagehot was born in Langport, Somerset, England, on 3 February 1826. His father, Thomas Walter Bagehot, was managing director and vice-chairman of Stuckey's Banking Company. He attended University College London, where he studied mathematics and in 1848 earned a master's degree in intellectual and moral philosophy. In April 1848, Bagehot was sworn as a Special Constable in anticipation of Chartist riots in London.

The Muggletonians, named after Lodowicke Muggleton, were a small Protestant Christian movement which began in 1651 when two London tailors announced they were the last prophets foretold in the biblical Book of Revelation. The group grew out of the Ranters and in opposition to the Quakers. Muggletonian beliefs include a hostility to philosophical reason, a scriptural understanding of how the universe works and a belief that God appeared directly on Earth as Christ Jesus. A consequential belief is that God takes no notice of everyday events on Earth and will not generally intervene until it is meant to bring the world to an end.
Muggletonians avoided all forms of worship or preaching, and met only for discussion and socializing. The movement was egalitarian, apolitical and pacifist, and resolutely avoided evangelism. Members attained a degree of public notoriety by cursing those who reviled their faith. This practice ceased in the mid-nineteenth century. One of the last victims was the novelist Sir Walter Scott.
The faith attracted public attention in 1979 when Philip Noakes left the entire Muggletonian archive of correspondence, general papers and publications to the British Library.

[Silvertongue]

Nicholas Flamel is also known outside of the HP series. Who knows who the Volturi are? Nobody.

[kumainpink]

Well, that's rather interesting

[Miss Wings]

got the names from my Royal books

[Serena R. Snape]

There's a lot of stuff based on real people in HP. Nicolas Flamel is just one of them.

Gilderoy Lockhart: "I have only once set out to depict somebody I have met and, unlikely though it might seem, the result was Gilderoy Lockhart. I assure you that the person on whom Gilderoy was modeled was even more objectionable than his fictional counterpart. He used to tell whopping great fibs about his past life, all of them designed to demonstrate what a wonderful, brave and brilliant person he was. Perhaps he didn't really believe he was all that great and wanted to compensate, but I'm afraid I never dug that deep."

Natalie McDonald: "In July 1999, nine-year-old Natalie McDonald, a Harry Potter fan dying of leukemia, sent a letter that arrived just after Rowling had gone on a two-week vacation. When she returned, Rowling quickly sent e-mails to Natalie and her mother, Valerie. Although Natalie died the day before, Joanne and Valerie struck up a correspondence, and as a tribute to Valerie's daughter, the Sorting Hat sends Natalie McDonald to Gryffindor, making Natalie the only "real" person to appear so far in the Harry Potter series."

Severus Snape: "John Nettleship, who taught the young JK Rowling chemistry when she was a student at Wydean School in Chepstow between 1976 and 1983, was at first uneasy about his comparison to the cruel (but actually quite nice really underneath it all) potions teacher. He grew to embrace it, however, helped in no small part to being (sort of) portrayed by Alan Rickman."

Nicolas Flamel: "Nicolas Flamel (1330-1417) was a French scribe who was also involved in the study of alchemy. He is mentioned on Dumbledore’s Chocolate Frog Card, since they were supposedly close friends and partners. In Harry Potter and the Philosopher’s Stone, Harry, Ron and Hermione read in an enormous old book that, “The ancient study of alchemy is concerned with making the Philosopher’s Stone, a legendary substance with astonishing powers. The Stone will transform any metal into pure gold. It also produces the Elixir of Life, which will make the drinker immortal. There have been many reports of the Philosopher’s Stone over the centuries, but the only Stone currently in existence belongs to Mr Nicolas Flamel, the noted alchemist and opera-lover. Mr Flamel, who celebrated his six hundred and sixty-fifth birthday last year, enjoys a quiet life in Devon with his wife, Perenelle (six hundred and fifty-eight).”"

Agrippa: "In Harry Potter and the Philosopher’s Stone, Ron has not yet been able to collect the Chocolate Frog Card of Agrippa, whose full name was Heinrich Cornelius Agrippa von Nettesheim. Agrippa was a German believer in occult practices such as magic, alchemy and astronomy. He wrote about ancient magic and its practical uses in De Occulta Philosophia Libri Tres, published in 1533. While many witches and wizards were persecuted for such beliefs at that time, there is no historical evidence to indicate that Agrippa was accused of practicing magic."

Ptolemy: "In Harry Potter and the Philosopher’s Stone, Ron has not yet been able to collect the Chocolate Frog Card of Ptolemy. Claudius Ptolemaeus was born around 100 C.E. in an Egypt that was under Roman rule. He is most famous for his work on astronomy, though he also published manuscripts on geography and astrology. In his astronomy book, known today as the Almagest, he published his geocentric model of the universe whereby a stationary Earth was positioned at the center of the universe with the planets, the Moon, the sun and the stars all orbiting around it. This model became the prevailing view of the universe until the 1500s when it was replaced by the heliocentric (sun-centered) model of Copernicus."

Paracelsus: "Paracelsus was featured on one of the Chocolate Frog Cards that Harry collected while aboard his first ride on the Hogwarts Express. There was also a bust of Paracelsus in a corridor at Hogwarts that almost became part of a prank planned by Peeves. Paracelsus was the name adopted by Swiss physician Philippus Theophrastus Aureolus Bombastus von Hohenheim. He is believed to have practiced medicine at the Fugger mines in the Tyrol region of Austria. He published the first book ever written on miners’ diseases, and conducted research on the use of chemicals such as sulphur and lead in the treatment of illness. Like many alchemists of his time, he had a keen interest in the Philosopher’s Stone and apparently received one as a gift in 1521. He also wrote about astrology, as he believed that planets affected different parts of the human body."

And don't forget Merlin.

[G. Novella]

I wasn't anti-Twilight until Breaking Dawn and the first movie. I found the series alright, but each book it got progressively worse.

Twilight was fine, it was a cheesy romance with vampires that targeted girls into that ideals. I was generally alright with it.

New Moon... That one was my second worst of the entire series. She broke down, got suicidal, etc and it was supposedly romantic? Then Jacob was just, oh, look, I'm your friend, now I'm abandoning you after making you even more emotionally vulnerable, now I'm in love with you.

Eclipse- Imprinting becomes a major thing. A guy imprints on a toddler. It's all okay (I'm reading and going WTF?). Edward and Bella bicker, try and seduce each other, some garbage about a war that lasted all of two chapters. Jacob is a total ass, Edward's an ass. But it's still cheesy romance, and made to introduce girls to soft-core adult erotica, kind of like an intro (does that make sense?)

Breaking Dawn- Everything that was bearable and not being questioned goes to shit. The sex involving bruises was freaky. The idea of being bruised while having sex is in no idea romantic and makes me question Meyer's idea of a healthy relation. Then the freaky pregnancy. Then the imprint and everyone just saying, oh it's fine. Then another shitty war that lasts all of two chapters, some more bruised sex, some interesting vampires that get no development, some weird powers are thrown in. Then the war happens. And it doesn't and it leaves off with no fighting after building up my excitement and forcing me to persevere.

I was not a happy camper at the end of that.

[Silvertongue]

I was VERY disappointed that the only person to even get hurt was Irina! That was no battle. What the hell was all the build up for? Absolutely pointless.

[G. Novella]

I know! I was like, yes, destroy Volturi, make world better, have something to make cheesy romance somewhat related to morals, ethics, put on a worldly view.

Instead she chose to stick to stupid romance with no climax and more bruised sex. (BRUISED SEX?!?! Yeah, that really freaks me out. In what world is it right to encourage people to want bruises during sex?)

[Serena R. Snape]

I found a few pictures on tumblr you have to see.






I was actually wondering if I should make a thread for funny tumblr pictures.

[Silvertongue]

In her world apparently. And I wouldn't like to be there. Maybe she's Umbridge and thinks everyone deserves it?

[G. Novella]

I just shuddered at the idea of Twilight being an Umbridge sex fantasy.

*Twitches, shudders*

[Silvertongue]

Oh god those pictures!!! Hilarious (have seen the top one before and used it in a thread here somewhere I think.

I'm so sorry for scarring your mind so badly!

[Serena R. Snape]

You've scarred me for life! DX

[kumainpink]

Yeah, now I need some brain bleach...

[G. Novella]

Pinky, I worry that you've been intoxicating far too much bleach, I'm nervous about handing my share over...

*Cautiously extends*

[kumainpink]

*takes* Thank you!

*guzzles down*

See, I'm perfectly fi- *starts foaming at the mouth*

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