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Post by G. Novella on Jul 8, 2012 5:44:47 GMT -5
That sounds like how dealing with a manufacturer here is  My best friend had a laptop that was a year old, and the screen covering was coming off. The manufacturer store guy told her to buy a new one because it was useless. She was so angry when she told me the story. She went and got it fixed by a private store. |
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 8, 2012 5:55:07 GMT -5
In my case I suspect the point was that the HD crashed on a 5 month old laptop, so there was still a warranty on it and they'd have had to pay the replacement themselves. So they tried to avoid it at all costs. Maybe it was something like that in your friend's case, too?
Viralic, you are one lucky guy!
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Post by bluestar on Jul 8, 2012 5:57:50 GMT -5
gnovella, you're currently in india? Thats cool, thats where i live at the moment.
im sure ull get your laptop fixed. There are just too many shops for that not to happen.
Coming to the topic.....I feel that Harry is about 5' 9" or something. Its in his genes to be tall but his horrific past will have had some effect. i believe that he was starved by the Dursleys and the cupboard too will have some effect. Then of course he was costantly getting badly injured and had so much stress to deal with every year. How the hell doesnt he suffer from severe acidity?
His magic really helped him in a lot of ways. It must of helped with the abuse (i am sure he was abused though not very badly. just starvation, Dudley's bullying, and maybe the belt or hands and fists by his uncle though not often) I think his magic also prevented the accidental horcrux from affecting Harry too badly. And Harry seems to be a fast healer.
And most of the characters needed therapy or atleast needed to talk to someone about everything they faced. Snape probably would not have been so bitter, Harry needed it for countless reasons, Hermione and Ron too faced alot, and Ginny could not have been all happy and fine so soon with CoS. Sirius needed quite a bit of therapy with everything that happened to him too.
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Post by G. Novella on Jul 8, 2012 6:20:36 GMT -5
Yup, The wonderful subtropic of India. I visit every summer or so  Hands down my favorite part of living here is the easy accessability to everything. Just a phone call away. Therapy is something I'm still wondering about. How on earth did the characters survive without it? |
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Post by ykickamoocow on Jul 8, 2012 6:26:48 GMT -5
I think Ron and Hermione would lean on each other quite a bit emotionally after the war. It may not be therapy but i do think it would help them both.
I am not sure with Harry and Ginny as tradionally Harry is terrible with opening up to people so i am not sure he would open up to Ginny about what he is feeling after the war.
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Post by G. Novella on Jul 8, 2012 6:28:56 GMT -5
He tends to tell Ginny things though, I mean in OOTP when they were just friends he confided that he needed to talk to Sirius.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 8, 2012 6:30:32 GMT -5
That's still not exactly one of the topics he'd usually not talk about - like his nightmares. Did he tell her about these?
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Post by G. Novella on Jul 8, 2012 6:33:09 GMT -5
We have no idea. JKR chose to tell us about Harry being bored to death by memories of Voldie's that can be summed up in a half hour.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 8, 2012 6:34:32 GMT -5
She really left too many important parts out |
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Post by G. Novella on Jul 8, 2012 6:37:08 GMT -5
I don't see why she couldn't sell the idea of Ginny over selling the idea of Voldie. Why didn't the editor try and intervene? Any author owes his readers the decency to be able to show a character's partner as worthy of said character. I mean, if Voldemort had a wife, we'd all want to know the why of that, even if it's Voldemort.
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Post by ykickamoocow on Jul 8, 2012 6:38:47 GMT -5
He tends to tell Ginny things though, I mean in OOTP when they were just friends he confided that he needed to talk to Sirius. I think i remember that conversation and it was also Ginny's genius idea to ask Hermione what to do ;D |
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Post by G. Novella on Jul 8, 2012 6:40:25 GMT -5
Did they confront Hermione? I thought she just encouraged Harry and he come up with the idea of using the floo...
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Post by bluestar on Jul 8, 2012 6:41:47 GMT -5
I moved ti india a few years ago. Before then i would visit every two years. The heat and humidity get to me even after all these years. Most things are easily available but its hard to deal with the people sometimes.
With evrything Harrys been through, i highly doubt he didnt crack at one point or another even if it is after the war. There were times in the books i felt that he was close to losing it (eg OotP). So eventually he would have to open up to someone. Also i dont think Ginny would appreciate Harry keeping anything from her especially after the war.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 8, 2012 6:42:39 GMT -5
I don't see why she couldn't sell the idea of Ginny over selling the idea of Voldie. Why didn't the editor try and intervene? Any author owes his readers the decency to be able to show a character's partner as worthy of said character. I mean, if Voldemort had a wife, we'd all want to know the why of that, even if it's Voldemort. Some time ago, I talked about some problems like that within the series with a friend and we came to the conclusion that by the fifth book at the latest, all the editor saw was $$$. They did a poor job on it, not only on stuff like that, but language-wise as well. |
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Post by G. Novella on Jul 8, 2012 6:53:41 GMT -5
Yeah, everyone here is out for a quick buck But it all depends on how you deal with them and how long you've known them. The heat is killer though, and then the rains. I remember when I was little and the roads used to flood from the rain. I totally agree with both of you guys, Bluestar and Kitty. I think that's why I find him so hard to write, because I keep waiting for him to crack and just beat everyone up or let his magic wild or something. As for the money part, I've always felt that way. I think she did originally want most things together, like Ron/Hermione, and the whole idea of Horcruxes, a second war, maybe the prophecy, but then theh were all just slapped together that I think she just said screw it, I need a new ferrari or whatever. This works, it's basically what I want, who cares beyond that? |
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Post by ykickamoocow on Jul 8, 2012 6:54:51 GMT -5
Did they confront Hermione? I thought she just encouraged Harry and he come up with the idea of using the floo... I just checked. Ginny's idea was simply to ask Fred and George if they had a idea on what they could do and Fred and George came up with the plan to gain access to the Floo. Its in the "Career Advice" chapter. |
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 8, 2012 6:55:13 GMT -5
Something like it. Or, as said friend is fond of suggesting, the last three books are from a ghostwriter ;D
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Post by G. Novella on Jul 8, 2012 6:58:06 GMT -5
I like that theory  It makes so much more sense to me. |
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Post by ykickamoocow on Jul 8, 2012 6:59:39 GMT -5
People claimed when HBP came out that Hermione was very out of character for much of the book but i liked how she acted as it goes to show that no matter how mature she likes to be she is still a teenage girl and a teenage girl that is in love.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 8, 2012 6:59:44 GMT -5
I would certainly explain a lot, wouldn't it? And might explain why I loved the first four so much and disliked the last three quite a bit, or at least found more faults in one of them than in the first four put together. |
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 8, 2012 7:03:23 GMT -5
People claimed when HBP came out that Hermione was very out of character for much of the book but i liked how she acted as it goes to show that no matter how mature she likes to be she is still a teenage girl and a teenage girl that is in love. You remember that you are talking about the girl that complained at the beginning of first year about people being childish? Actually, the behaviour of Hermione and to a lesser degree Ron was a good part of why I never liked HBP in the first place. In the fifth book it was Sirius who seemed too changed suddenly, in the sixth Hermione and Ron. It irritated me. To me, Hermione acted like a bitch at times, and I didn't like it at all. |
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Post by viralic1 on Jul 8, 2012 7:05:52 GMT -5
Yeah, especially with the Potions book. You're telling me the girl who loves knowledge and the transfer of knowledge suddenly gets pissy cause Harry has a book with notes in it?
I see that entire book as a joke.
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Post by G. Novella on Jul 8, 2012 7:06:38 GMT -5
It explains evetything really. I once went to a writer's workshop thing and the teacher said, you can't try and stick to the plot you started with when you write. Let it flow the way it wants to. I feel like JKR did that and compromised her story.
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Post by ykickamoocow on Jul 8, 2012 7:07:42 GMT -5
She may have behaved rather childishly but i think that is because despite her liking to act mature Hermione is still a teenager and as a result is not mature yet. She was in love with Ron and Ron was dating another girl (in a very public way after Hermione thought she asked Ron out) so it is not surprising that Hermione was feeling very very hurt over the situation.
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Post by viralic1 on Jul 8, 2012 7:08:32 GMT -5
I've always felt letting it flow was the best choice, cause if you don't the story ends up extremely rigid. That's why I always get a good laugh when authors are like "Don't bother suggesting anything, I have the entire story planned out."
Good luck with that.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 8, 2012 7:10:44 GMT -5
A (very good) fanfiction writer in another fandom told me repeatedly that he sat down to write a chapter knowing exactly what he wanted to write, and when he finished the chapter, it was something completely different from what he planned, but nearly always better than his initial plan. He learned to let his characters take over sometimes. That way the story never seems ... enforced, for lack of a better description.
JKR, however, worked how long on HP? A few years? And I get the feeling she stubbornly stuck to her initial ideas, if they still did fit or not, or integrated new ones without caring if they fit with earlier parts.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 8, 2012 7:12:00 GMT -5
She may have behaved rather childishly but i think that is because despite her liking to act mature Hermione is still a teenager and as a result is not mature yet. She was in love with Ron and Ron was dating another girl (in a very public way after Hermione thought she asked Ron out) so it is not surprising that Hermione was feeling very very hurt over the situation. And that's why she took it out on Harry at times, after complaining in the year before that he blew up on them to relieve some of the extreme stress he was under. |
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Post by ykickamoocow on Jul 8, 2012 7:12:14 GMT -5
In what direction do you think JKR secretly wanted to go but her editors convinced her not to?
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 8, 2012 7:15:29 GMT -5
Actually, I see it the other way around - that the editors allowed her to run wild with the plot and didn't put their feet down on all the plotholes and logical errors. Seeing how much they overlooked, they didn't do their job. Period.
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Post by G. Novella on Jul 8, 2012 7:17:04 GMT -5
Yeah, especially with the Potions book. You're telling me the girl who loves knowledge and the transfer of knowledge suddenly gets pissy cause Harry has a book with notes in it? I see that entire book as a joke. I think it was more the fact that the knowledge source was mysterious, and that she couldn't cross-check the facts with something reputable, mixed with the idea that Harry was replacing her as a source for knowledge with some other student who was presumably their age. As for what direction JKR wanted to go, probably she wanted more adult themes like romance and to bring out things like darker aspects of war, but got shut down because the editors wanted to market it for younger kids. |
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Hands down my favorite part of living here is the easy accessability to everything. Just a phone call away. 
It makes so much more sense to me.
