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Post by kumainpink on Jul 21, 2012 4:42:47 GMT -5
Given his past, I think Harry is a father that truly loves his kids, but probably spoils them. Not to the point of making them bratty, but the kids are very lavished in my opinion.
After all, Harry grew up with little to nothing. I'm sure that he'd want to make sure that never happened with his children.
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Post by G. Novella on Jul 21, 2012 5:19:30 GMT -5
I can see Harry as spoiling his children, especially his daughter. Probably he's also a bit awkward discussing his past around them, and very protective. He's the dad who wants to put child leashes on his children and have them in his sight 24/7 after everything he's been through.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 21, 2012 5:28:26 GMT -5
Harry would spoil them, but know that he needs to draw a line. He's seen with Dudley too well where you get when you allow them to get away with everything, and I can't see him wanting his children to be as bad. He'd probably be indulgent when it comes to harmless pranks, but put his foot down when it gets into harming others.
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Post by G. Novella on Jul 21, 2012 5:30:56 GMT -5
Yeah, and probably be very excited about them. Like, he'd come home late at night and still want to check on his kids, do the diaper changing routine, and if their awake, play with them. I can see him shielding them from the press and trying to give them as normal a childhood as possible for having a famous dad.
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 21, 2012 5:32:03 GMT -5
I agree with you on that, Kitty. Having seen both sides, Harry would have good instincts. Though I do think he'd be a little nervous when it comes to affectionate things at times. And couldn't you see Harry being disturbed when one of his children say the usual childish insults like "I hate you". Not ones that they'd mean it... but yeah, it would sting badly.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 21, 2012 5:43:48 GMT -5
True, gnovella, he'd do that, and try to make sure they stay normal and don't think they are too special for being his children.
Yes, Kuma, that's a good point, too. He's still having some deficits in the interaction departments due to his childhood, I imagine.
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Post by G. Novella on Jul 21, 2012 5:46:06 GMT -5
Can anyone see him having a lot of insecurities that need to be reinforced? I can see Ginny, Arthur, and Molly having to keep telling Harry he's doing okay, and patting him on the back since he'd probably at evry stage of his children's life feel scared he's doing the fatherly thing wrong.
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 21, 2012 5:46:14 GMT -5
Oh man, imagine what would happen if Harry and Ginny had a bad divorce, and the children sided with their mother... *sadface*
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 21, 2012 5:50:13 GMT -5
After he wanted a proper family so badly, it would probably break him *huggles Harry, just in case*
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 21, 2012 5:53:23 GMT -5
Is it bad that I want to write this now?
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Post by G. Novella on Jul 21, 2012 5:56:03 GMT -5
I can't see them divorcing though. And even using the fangirl argument, Ginny would do everything to keep a healthy relationship and keep Harry happy. And likewise, Harry wouldn't leave Ginny out of nobility. Outside of the fan-girl argument, Harry'd be too devoted to his family to go in that direction, and Ginny wouldn't want to have the loom of divorce on her, she seems to proud to end up in a messy divorce. But if it did hapoen, Harry'd...he'd... I think there was a redo fic like that, where Ron and Harry were abandoned by their wives and kids after passing the death row bill.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 21, 2012 5:56:23 GMT -5
It is. Way too depressing for me! I want him happy, not broken!
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 21, 2012 6:00:26 GMT -5
Well, how about broken but then they work toward fixing things eventually?
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Post by G. Novella on Jul 21, 2012 6:01:53 GMT -5
I can see that, but if Harry's kids turned on him, he'd need to mess up badly.. Ohh, what if he'sdoing an undercover mission and to protect his family he acts like a total jerk and the family turns on him in reality and things sort of snowball?
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 21, 2012 6:04:49 GMT -5
I don't know ... Would it be even believable that he suddenly treats his family so badly? He's always under scrutiny, so people would know that his family life was a bit different, and the sudden change would be a bit strange.
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Post by G. Novella on Jul 21, 2012 6:05:40 GMT -5
That's true... Maybe his PTSD gets really bad and he refuses to get help?
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 21, 2012 6:06:38 GMT -5
I could see the PTSD doing that. Like, what if someone startled him in the wrong way and he lashed out at one of the kids or Ginny? There are cases where that sort of thing happens.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 21, 2012 6:09:40 GMT -5
That sounds more likely, yes, at least to me.
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 21, 2012 6:11:52 GMT -5
Heck, I read about one case where a man killed his own wife in his sleep because of his nightmares...
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 21, 2012 6:14:25 GMT -5
Oh, that must have been horrible! Imagine waking up and realising what you have done! *shudders*
If that happened to Harry, I'd blame Dumbledore for it. He was the one who denied him a proper home and forced him into becoming the sacrificial lamb, and he never did anything to help him after all these traumatic experiences.
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Post by G. Novella on Jul 21, 2012 6:16:59 GMT -5
That poor man! How could anyone deal with that?
I would totally read a story like that happening to Harry. But if he killed someone, I can't see him as ever getting over it. I mean, he never even killed Voldemort...
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 21, 2012 6:23:45 GMT -5
I don't think he'd kill them, but maybe Harry would have a few instances where he accidentally lashes out? The last straw could be sending Ginny or one of the kids to the Hospital, and Ginny decides that Harry is to dangerous to remain with.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 21, 2012 6:27:49 GMT -5
While I can see that happen, I have to still admit it's not something I want to read. Way too depressing. Don't want him to suffer so much
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 21, 2012 6:30:02 GMT -5
The weird thing is, I enjoy it when characters suffer. I love things where they're in misery and they have to recover. I get a sense of completeness when I read it. lol. Yeah, I'm a nutcase
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Post by G. Novella on Jul 21, 2012 6:32:45 GMT -5
I like suffering too, but in moderation and if the recovery is realistic. Like, Harry can get poisoned, but don't poison him with basilisk venom and say he made a 180 degree recovery all by himself.
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 21, 2012 6:41:36 GMT -5
I agree with that. I've been studying PTSD for a while now, and would just like to see it done realistically, along with the struggles that come with it.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 21, 2012 6:45:40 GMT -5
You'd probably do a much better job of it than JRK ...
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 21, 2012 6:47:19 GMT -5
I don't want to say that I'd do a much better job...it seems kind of rude. I could probably do it more realistically, though. *frowns* My dad fought in Vietnam and he has the occasional flashback... it's not fun to watch. Not at all.
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Post by G. Novella on Jul 21, 2012 6:49:42 GMT -5
that sounds terrible Kuma. And I agree that you'll do it more realistically and probably more maturely as well. JKR seemed to gloss it over too much for my liking. It almost felt like she was telling kids bad things happen. Move on. That's how to be strong,
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 21, 2012 6:49:52 GMT -5
JKR didn't satisfy me in that regard. Sure, Harry had nightmares, but beyond that? It was not that much convincing to me, that's all I'm going to say.
I'm sorry for your dad, it has to be hard for him - and for you all.
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