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Post by kumainpink on Jul 21, 2012 7:58:11 GMT -5
I like that people can talk about serious things on here, too. It doesn't feel so closed off, you know?
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Post by Chameleon on Jul 21, 2012 8:01:39 GMT -5
Yeah... Thanks guys. I think it's horrible how many people have cancer. I've known a few people, but not many who're that young as my brother... Or now I know a few people, via my brother. Was on a holiday recently with several families with children with cancer... Saw a lot of small children with cancer.. The youngest being three.
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 21, 2012 8:03:47 GMT -5
*shudders* Aww  Now that's sad. |
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Post by Chameleon on Jul 21, 2012 8:04:29 GMT -5
I say that same Kuma... Some people get closed off, when it comes to personal/serious stuff. Well, it's their right, but it's nice to see that there's some people who can talk openly about serious stuff.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 21, 2012 8:05:58 GMT -5
That's even worse. How do you explain to such a small kid the necessity of these treatments? Why it can't have a normal life, why it is so often sick? It's hard enough to see an adult struggle with it, but a three-year-old kid? Same here, Kuma. It's good that we can talk about more than HP here. |
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Post by Chameleon on Jul 21, 2012 8:08:16 GMT -5
I know... The kid was really sweet. I think he used with it, as he started the treatments as one-yar old. Poor thing, I just say.
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 21, 2012 8:09:38 GMT -5
So many damn tragedies in the world...
Is it a wonder we become desensitized over time?
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Post by Chameleon on Jul 21, 2012 8:12:33 GMT -5
I know... There were three sisters on six, nine and thirteen who died for a couple of weeks in Denmark.. One sister per day... There had been some accident, when they played on the family's farm, and some things around 400-500 kg fell on them. Poor parents and big brother.. It's horrible, that they have some fun, and get killed.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 21, 2012 8:12:40 GMT -5
Many do, yes. But it is heart-warming to see that there are others out there who still care enough about strangers to feel with them, too.
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 21, 2012 8:14:42 GMT -5
I agree, Kitty.  |
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 21, 2012 8:18:00 GMT -5
Oh god. That poor family, to lose all three daughters! I can't even begin to understand how they must feel.
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Post by Chameleon on Jul 21, 2012 8:20:59 GMT -5
Not me... It's horrible to lose a child, but to lose three daughters, especially one daughter per day... Oh god, I just say.
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Post by physicssquid on Jul 21, 2012 8:24:38 GMT -5
I can't imagine losing a child, but I do know what it's like losing a loved one.
My mum died of cancer nearly four years ago, and my dad has lost both his parents and his older sister. Now we're watching my grandmother, on my mum's side, suffer with senile dementia, and she refuses to take her medicine, so she's pretty damn depressed.
My heart goes out to all those who have lost loved ones and have to see their families suffer.
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Post by G. Novella on Jul 21, 2012 8:26:22 GMT -5
I can't even imagine having to deal with losing a child, let alone three, how do you recover from that?
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Post by Chameleon on Jul 21, 2012 8:27:42 GMT -5
Well... I know how it's to lose, but I've only lost my grandfather two years ago.. But that was terrible, as he had just eaten dinner, and talked to some of my cousins in the living room, and then he just... died on the couch. It was really sudden.
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Post by Chameleon on Jul 21, 2012 8:28:36 GMT -5
I don't think you ever recover from it... You can try to live with it, but you never recover...
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 21, 2012 8:32:11 GMT -5
Yeah, my thoughts exactly. |
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 21, 2012 8:32:29 GMT -5
True. Even with someone old, when you know it's inevitably coming soon, it's hard. And when you lose a child ... you can somehow go on, but the world will never be the same.
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Post by Chameleon on Jul 21, 2012 8:46:16 GMT -5
Ah yes... I think it's so sad, when people die... Especially children, but yeah... Even Faroe Islands has children who die, whether it's illness of accident. (We had three boys who died in fire for several years ago... They went on my school  ). |
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Post by dracosfairmaiden on Jul 21, 2012 8:46:29 GMT -5
I kind of feel for Harry. I can't imagine him getting over everything so quickly. I mean, he's seen things a 17 year old shouldn't have seen. I think that's why Molly tried to shelter and protect him. Do I agree with her actions? Yes and no. There was a time and a place for everything and she went overboard. Harry's children are lucky they don't get to experience war like he did.
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 21, 2012 8:52:21 GMT -5
No, he must have had so many problems, but he learned early on to keep everything bottled up, because the Dursleys weren't the ones listening to his worries. Must have made things worse.
Yeah, Molly went overboard, sadly. She meant well, but went about it the wrong way. To get him to talk about his experiences, to give him advice how to deal with it would have been so much better than trying to keep him ignorant of the real world. That was not really protection, it just endangered him.
Well, I guess that was what they all fought for - to have a peaceful world where their children can grow up in peace. That was what the generation of Harry's parents fought for, too, sadly not with the same success.
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Post by Chameleon on Jul 21, 2012 8:56:41 GMT -5
I love Molly... But bah. That woman went way to far with her sheltering of her children. It was clear that she disapproved that Bill and Charlie were members of the Order. If she could she would probably take all her children, plus Harry and Hermione and hide them somewhere until the war was over, and not tell them a thing about anything. "Don't worry, dears."
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 21, 2012 9:00:26 GMT -5
LOL, and I kept saying that if Molly had anything to say, she'd lock them all in the playpen to make sure they never grow up and have to be released into the big bad world.
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 21, 2012 9:02:58 GMT -5
*snicker*
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Post by G. Novella on Jul 21, 2012 9:03:06 GMT -5
Does anyone else get the feeling Molly's brothers died really young? I keep trying to come up witb reasons why Molly was so obsessed with keeping her kids innocent, and that made me think her brothers grew up too fast and died too young..
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Post by kumainpink on Jul 21, 2012 9:03:58 GMT -5
It's a good theory, actually...
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Post by Chameleon on Jul 21, 2012 9:04:07 GMT -5
Haha. That sounds something Molly would do. Just lock them all there, as she doesn't like that her children will one day grow up and won't need her anymore. She practically lives of her children's need of her. Look at her treatment of Fleur. Alright, Bill is perhaps her oldest, but that doesn't give her any right to act that way. I surely hope that my parents won't act that way toward my future hubby.
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Post by Chameleon on Jul 21, 2012 9:05:23 GMT -5
Hmm... Good theory Gnovella... If her brothers died young, it would make her obsessed.. Her worst fears were after all to lose her family.
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Post by G. Novella on Jul 21, 2012 9:08:27 GMT -5
I read something like that here, and then I started running with it, until I decided that they died when Molly was twenty-four and they were twenty-one, and everytime Molly saw them, they went from care-free and happy, needing her to mend their socks, to bitter and volatile and not wanting her to be involved. Then they took a risky mission out of anger and frustration and died. It would probably come as a huge shock to her and make her determined not to let her kids go,
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Post by Kitty279 on Jul 21, 2012 9:17:07 GMT -5
Does anyone else get the feeling Molly's brothers died really young? I keep trying to come up witb reasons why Molly was so obsessed with keeping her kids innocent, and that made me think her brothers grew up too fast and died too young.. Hm ... Bill was born in 1971, and as Molly married young and had children, I'd suspect she was born around 1950, possibly a bit later. So she would have been around 30 when Voldemort fell in 1981. Seeing that the first war lasted for 11 years, it had to start around 1970. We don't know if Fabian and Gideon were older or younger, but if they were younger, they were only in their 20's when they died, no doubt. If they were older than Molly, then they probably died closer to 30. At least that's what I would think, as canon implies that they fought quite a bit, so I'd think they were out of school already and rather experienced. If the Prewett brothers were younger than their sister, I can really see Molly disapproving of them being involved in the first place. They joined the Order, right? Maybe she thought they would have survived if they hadn't been involved and was determined to prevent her own children from any involvement. Yes, that would make sense. She just forgot that one of Voldemort's biggest supporters had a feud with her family (Malfoy), and that Harry was the one Voldemort was after, so that keeping him ignorant and innocent was not going to protect him at all, and with him at least her youngest son. Haha. That sounds something Molly would do. Just lock them all there, as she doesn't like that her children will one day grow up and won't need her anymore. She practically lives of her children's need of her. Look at her treatment of Fleur. Alright, Bill is perhaps her oldest, but that doesn't give her any right to act that way. I surely hope that my parents won't act that way toward my future hubby. *grin* Once again, that's what I said - that she can't bear it that they are going to grow up and not need her any more and she can't deal with it. |
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Now that's sad. 
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