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Post by Dimcairien on Aug 1, 2012 23:58:21 GMT -5
You know, it's not all that difficult to create torrents. Yes, it would be a bit illogical to have a new torrent for every chapter, but perhaps if we did just completed stories. Authors could use livejournal otherwise for posting individual chapters and getting feedback. Just a random thought on my part I've actually thought of doing that, completing and then posting the whole thing. It makes less stress because you don't feel pressured to get a chapter out right then and there. The trouble is that when I start a story and get a few chapters into it, I want to get it out and get reviews for it. I want people to see what I'm doing, and the reviews help in getting the next chapter out. I know, and reviews can often help with coming up with ideas and plot twists. I'll at least be updating on wordpress and ff.net. |
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Post by My-Rebel-Within on Aug 2, 2012 0:06:47 GMT -5
I am addicted to reveals and the reactions it gets. I love reading and watching characters reactions to the information they are given; they tend to be my favorite moments in literature, television, and film. Many of the stories written in fan fiction have reveals that is one of the main reason I read fan fiction in general. "Read by the Characters" fan fictions are some of my favorite ways to get my fix.
Please let me know where the authors are posting. If anyone would be willing to email me updates of their stories, it would me much obliges. I love "Read by the Characters" fan fiction best. I am greatly saddened by their deletions.
My email is:
myrebelwithin@gmail.com
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Post by rocky on Aug 2, 2012 0:07:56 GMT -5
hey,
I have a question about wattpad, there are alot of catagories so im wondering what you would find Rtb ficks under?? Or if its diffrent for every person and we just have to spend hours looking for them?? I did notice the fanfiction tab but it also has many sub topics under it. Maybe we do just have to look for the ficks??? I dont have a problem going there to read stories but i need to be able to find them!! If anyone can help let me know,
thanks
rocky
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Post by ShotgunWilly on Aug 2, 2012 0:14:13 GMT -5
You know, it's not all that difficult to create torrents. Yes, it would be a bit illogical to have a new torrent for every chapter, but perhaps if we did just completed stories. Authors could use livejournal otherwise for posting individual chapters and getting feedback. Just a random thought on my part I've actually thought of doing that, completing and then posting the whole thing. It makes less stress because you don't feel pressured to get a chapter out right then and there. The trouble is that when I start a story and get a few chapters into it, I want to get it out and get reviews for it. I want people to see what I'm doing, and the reviews help in getting the next chapter out. Yea, which is why I made the posting suggestion. There's probably a better way to do it, but I need to sleep on it. |
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Post by ShotgunWilly on Aug 2, 2012 0:28:35 GMT -5
I've just sent out a mass-email. It should be in your inboxes within the next 15 minutes or so. If you've been keeping up with this thread then you don't need to read it, really.
Also, I'm considering either turning off registrations or making it so that each member has to be activated by a staff member before their account will go active. Just for the time being until things calm down. Thoughts?
Also, Proboards has shitty security practices, apparently. *sigh*
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Post by Dimcairien on Aug 2, 2012 0:32:07 GMT -5
Also, I'm considering either turning off registrations or making it so that each member has to be activated by a staff member before their account will go active. Just for the time being until things calm down. Thoughts? I think that might be a wise idea. Early on, most of us knew each other or at least recognized the name from fellow authors or reviewers, but now as there's over 1500 members, we don't know who genuinely loves the books or is here for trouble. I'm more in favour of the being activated by a staff member method, but whatever will help us the most should be the action taken. |
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Post by ShotgunWilly on Aug 2, 2012 0:38:55 GMT -5
I've closed registrations for now; once we figure out how this is going to work, I'll loosen it up a bit; I just want to get a handle on things right now.
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Post by IceBlueRose on Aug 2, 2012 0:42:15 GMT -5
I know the LJ idea wasn't a big one because of how a closed community might turn people off but I don't think it necessarily has to be a closed community. Just don't make the name of the community anything really obvious and it should be fine. Same with Dreamwidth.
I've been working on my own fic so I know I'll post at my own fic community that I have and I'm looking at yourfanfiction.com as well. But I'm also very open to email groups as well since I'm a member of a few groups already. Just let me know if it'll be Yahoo or Google and I'm there! So, I suppose, that's me saying sign me up for whatever group is decided.
Has it been decided how new authors/stories will get the word out that they're being written?
As for turning off registration or waiting for the staff member to activate them - how about both? I'm part of a LiveJournal community (no fic but the singers the community is about were being pointed towards the community journal so there were issues for a couple of months) that turned off registration/new members for awhile and now they allow new members but one of the community moderators has to approve the membership so they can be sure that the person isn't the sort to go running off and posting links to discussions on Twitter or whatever. So a bit of both would be good I think. Let the registration be turned off for awhile and when some time passes, allow new members to register but make it so a staff member has to approve the person.
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Post by Kitty279 on Aug 2, 2012 0:43:15 GMT -5
Good idea, we'll need a bit of time to work out how to deal with the whole mess.
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Post by evesd on Aug 2, 2012 0:46:25 GMT -5
where could we go after tomorrow to figure out where the stories are?
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Post by ladymars on Aug 2, 2012 0:48:42 GMT -5
no no no no  why they keep targeting you and your stories  I have been reading your stories for year and when they delet it from FF made me depresed until i found this fourm I want to help you but i don't have any solution sorry  I hope all of you could keep your amazing stories |
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Post by SiriuslyRiddikulus1o1 on Aug 2, 2012 1:13:53 GMT -5
This is terrible, I have no idea why some people attacked this forum when clearly it was none of their business to do so.
I think that these Rtb fics should be allowed as the last HP book came out in 2007 and I'm sure almost everyone of the HP fans would have bought it, these fics are just a way of keeping these books alive and making them more interesting by adding the reactions of the characters.
It's a shame really that now most of the stories would go to individual livejournals, making it harder for dedicated(readers) like me, to find them and keep updated with them.
Please keep us updated on where all the authors would post their stories now. Personally I think that the ideas of groups or posting on yourfanfiction(dot)com are great that way it would be easier to know when a story is updated.
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Post by TitansRule on Aug 2, 2012 1:19:33 GMT -5
I'm tempted to start another thread for people to post where there stories are now, but if there ARE trolls, that will just lead them straight to them.
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Post by Kitty279 on Aug 2, 2012 1:20:36 GMT -5
Exactly. That's why I think asking the author via PM is the more safe choice.
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Post by IceBlueRose on Aug 2, 2012 1:29:30 GMT -5
It's a shame really that now most of the stories would go to individual livejournals, making it harder for dedicated(readers) like me, to find them and keep updated with them. If LiveJournal became the situation, I'd say go for a community - readers don't need accounts to look at the community if it's not locked. Membership can be closed or set so that it has to be approved but the community's posts could still be open so that could help. But getting the name of the community out there would be a problem though I suppose we could just PM members here with it if that happens. I agree that PMs are probably the best bet right now though it would be tempting to just make a thread saying "Hey! Here's my fic!" |
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Post by Dimcairien on Aug 2, 2012 1:33:57 GMT -5
I've never used livejournal before, but I'd be willing to give it a try if several others are going to do it. And yes, PMs are probably the best way to pass the word.
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Post by Kitty279 on Aug 2, 2012 1:36:39 GMT -5
I've had a LJ account for years, my worry is just that someone is going to report the stories there, too, and we will end up with the same problem all over again. One or two fics aren't going to be a problem, but when so many suddenly post their RtB stories there, what are the chances that the CU and their ilk are going to follow us and report there, too?
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Post by TitansRule on Aug 2, 2012 1:43:07 GMT -5
I know I sound like a broken record, and I apologise, but I think the only place CU can't make trouble is yourfanfiction, because RtB fics are allowed on there. And I know people have a problem with the 'not the whole text' thing, but all I've done is changed:
True, Dudley was now so scared of Harry he wouldn't stay in the same room, while Aunt Petunia and Uncle Vernon didn't shut Harry in his cupboard force him to do anything or shout at him - in fact, they didn't speak to him at all.
“What’s wrong with that?” Sirius asked.
to:
[...] in fact, they didn't speak to him at all.
“What’s wrong with that?” Sirius asked.
And even then, you only have to do that for one chapter at the least - if you have one paragraph that they don't interrupt, just take the middle part out and you're abiding by the rules.
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Post by kumainpink on Aug 2, 2012 1:46:11 GMT -5
The problem is a lot of people alter the text to change the story around. It's impossible to do if you can't use all the text.
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Post by Kitty279 on Aug 2, 2012 1:50:37 GMT -5
Yes, I know, and I'll certainly follow stories there. But I suspect that not all authors will move there, and I was thinking more of these who have other plans. Following the discussion so far, there are enough people who seem to want to go somewhere else.
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Post by Sailorgreeny on Aug 2, 2012 1:58:02 GMT -5
I am sad that this site is now being targeted. I would agree that a mailing list is a good way to go. I also agree that posting the story with a paragraph missing like the above example is alright with me as I have read the books so many times that I find myself skimming it anyway to get to the reactions. If only a small part is missing it's fine.
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Post by TitansRule on Aug 2, 2012 2:00:19 GMT -5
And the altered text doesn't count as copyrighted material, so you could leave that in. Even if it's a Girl!Harry story, there are some places where the only difference is that they've changed 'her' to 'him'.
About a mailing list though, if anyone would like to sign up for one for the Price of Peace series, can you PM me?
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Post by IceBlueRose on Aug 2, 2012 2:01:15 GMT -5
I definitely understand what you're saying about LJ. I can't decide if it'd be more of a problem with a community or with people posting it to their journals. Probably with the community since they'd all be in one spot but it's harder to keep track when it's at the individual journals unless you've been pointed in that direction or linked there.
There are definitely some paragraphs that I'll probably just take out if they're not going to impact and that way it'll keep to yourfanfiction.com's rules as well.
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Post by Kitty279 on Aug 2, 2012 2:08:01 GMT -5
Actually, if you friend someone on LJ, all their posts are going to show up in your friendslist, so you could just log into your account and see all the updates on the different accounts on your own account. Keeping all the updates friends-locked might keep the trolls mostly at bay, but if one gets in, reporting would be easy, I suspect.
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Post by IceBlueRose on Aug 2, 2012 2:19:16 GMT -5
Hmmm, that is a good point. And for anyone worried about cluttering their friends list, they can always filter it so that they can have RtB people and fics on their own. With trolls...well, I think that'll come down to whether we post links publicly or not. We made this site pretty well known but if we PM each other, like you guys had mentioned, then I think that decreases chances of that a lot. I don't think the reporting is as strict on LJ, they have so much material that could be considered crossing a line (though I suppose that depends on where your line is, lol) that it's just a matter of finding your spot. But I've noticed that people tend to stick to their own fandoms or communities or whatever. Then again, that could just be me since that's what I do and I miss a lot of the drama in the bigger communities with thousands and thousands of members. (Specifically, that was usually the Supernatural comms though. Oh, SPN fandom, you have so much drama.)
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Post by viralic1 on Aug 2, 2012 2:19:31 GMT -5
I think LJ is a good idea, but just have the authors post it on their own account, and not in the group. It wouldn't be hard to link it, or even have the people subscribed.
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Post by Kitty279 on Aug 2, 2012 2:29:28 GMT -5
When you put the update behind a cut, so it's just the chapter title and you have to click on the link to open the chapter, the flist isn't that cluttered. I know that there are lots of stories FFN would get apoplexy about - heavy smut, for instance. That's where I always got my elfslash fix  So they are less paranoid, that much I know. I've used my account mostly for reviewing said stories, but I know that it works like that: When you post normally, everyone can see an update. When you post f-locked, then it's only visible to your friends - who then have to log in to read. So no anonymous lurkers. |
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Post by eskimoRock on Aug 2, 2012 2:31:26 GMT -5
We cOu,d always do two things, so that people can choose the one thats most convenient?
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Post by wanttowrite on Aug 2, 2012 2:55:45 GMT -5
I Really Love The RTB Fics & Would Like To Be Informed If Authors Are Posting Their Fics On Another Site! If Their Is A PM Or Email List Please Add Me To It! Thank You! Me too please! And thank you! <3 Me three, please! |
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Post by IceBlueRose on Aug 2, 2012 2:56:15 GMT -5
It's been a long while since I was on LJ, I'm finally getting back in the swing of things. (But I never want to go this long again, my friends list is crazy at the moment with trying to catch up, lol!)
More than one thing might work, true. Then people could choose whichever works for them. If they can't get torrents to work or they don't want to be part of a group then other sites that authors use could work for them.
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So they are less paranoid, that much I know.
