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Post by AllyJackson on Jun 30, 2012 22:23:37 GMT -5
I'd try to come up with a better one, but I do believe that's the only ship of mine that isn't canon.  |
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Post by readingwizard4 on Jun 30, 2012 22:28:29 GMT -5
I like Ron and understand his faults but sometimes I just want a bashing story. Though unfortunately there aren't that many good Ron stories. Most of the Harry and Hermione stories have bad Ron and Ginny.
What about the Zutara ship from the original AtLA series? Kataang is the official pairing but people like Zuko and Katara together
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Post by AllyJackson on Jun 30, 2012 22:29:41 GMT -5
Oh, I don't think Zutara could ever have worked. I've always been a Kataang shipper. And Maiko. They're just so cute together!
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Post by readingwizard4 on Jun 30, 2012 22:33:52 GMT -5
Probably not and yes Maiko does work. Who did you like Sokka with? I could see him with Suki, Yue or Ty Lee quite easily. What about Toph? I could see her with Sokka or Aang really. Though Iroh and Tea was the best. What other Fandoms do you like? I like Star Wars (I've have several in this one but they are mostly cannon) and a couple other ones where shippings don't really matter as much to me.
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Post by sherza on Jun 30, 2012 22:34:43 GMT -5
Nope, the giggling was in ... book 5, I believe. Just before Harry started drooling after Ginny. And no, I don't think a potion was involved there, but it sure made my paranoid soul wonder. And ... why would Arthur even know about her potioning someone else? Much less her doing that make him want to marry her? It only makes a particle of sense under one of two conditions
1) Molly's victim was a rapist/someone who otherwise got WAY too familiar with someone who didn't want any part of it and Arthur somehow found out about that, admired her defense, and got to know her.
2) Molly was potioning Arthur and he found out about it after the wedding, they had a hell of a row, settled things between themselves, and went on with life.
And no, I'm not a Harry/Hermione shipper. I think they'd do marginally better than Harry/Ginny, but they'd not last long-term anymore than I think Miss Fangirl would have lasted with Harry.
Basically, I am just being brutally honest about Ron. Yes, Ron did do a lot of stuff, and had a lot to recommend him ... but that does not mitigate his faults. He is tactless to the extreme and inherently lazy. He'd genuinely capable of a hell of a lot ... if you put his back to a wall. But unless he's got something *damn* compelling driving him, he tends to want things handed to him without any effort on his part.
Look at his eleven-year-old heart's desire ... to be seen as better than his brothers. Rather than even TRY to attempt to excell scholastically to attain that much-wanted Head Boyship and set the stage for some adulthood triumph of his own design, he just moaned and wailed about how he'd never stand out so why bother, barely bothered to try with his homework ninety percent of the time, and generally screwed around.
And never quite seemed to realize that the stuff he pulled off while hanging out with Harry put him about two cuts ahead of everyone save Bill (who had an advantage in being a cursebreaker, which is a job that HAS to have a high adventure quotient).
And JKR herself said that Hermione/Ron was a pity pairing, so ... yeah.
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Post by AllyJackson on Jun 30, 2012 22:37:21 GMT -5
Sokka was cute with Yue (he even named Yue Bay after her in LoK), but, seeing how she's dead, he's also uber cute with Suki. Iroh and Tea go together so perfectly it's not even funny. Only it is.  The problem with Toph is that no one is cool enough to be with her, which makes the speculation about Lin all the more fun. I adore Star Wars but never really cared much for shipping as long as Solo and Leia got together. And I love many other pairings, but far to many to least here. I'd bore you.  |
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Post by ykickamoocow on Jun 30, 2012 22:37:51 GMT -5
Most teenagers are lazy (in fact Ron probably did not try in school because he was already convinced he was going to fail). As for tactless Ron is no more tactless than Hermione is and yet i never hear people spending a lot of time complaining about Hermione's lack of tact.
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Post by AllyJackson on Jun 30, 2012 22:40:40 GMT -5
Or maybe Molly was once a teenage girl who once had a crush before she met Arthur (oh, how dare she) and had the ability to win their heart. Maybe it was a bet, or a dare. Didn't she just say that she'd made one, not that she'd used it? Couldn't it be seventh year curriculum to brew a successful love potion?
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Post by MySecretSecondChance on Jun 30, 2012 22:41:42 GMT -5
Sherza the giggling wasn't in fifth year it was just before third when Harry came down for breakfast at the leaky cauldron the day before they left for hogwarts.
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Post by AllyJackson on Jun 30, 2012 22:42:35 GMT -5
And if you were the youngest of five brothers who'd all done amazing things, wouldn't you want to be just as cool, if not cooler than them?
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Post by sherza on Jun 30, 2012 22:42:57 GMT -5
if it was just a chat about a class-made potion ... why the giggling? I wish I had the book on hand, so I could quote the relevant section, but I'm 90% sure it was at the very least strongly implied that she fed it to *someone*, and this act was tied to her ending up marrying Arthur.
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Post by readingwizard4 on Jun 30, 2012 22:45:09 GMT -5
The Love potion tale was told in POA, the chapter was the Dementor. The passage is as follows They headed down to breakfast, where Mr. Weasley was reading the front page of the Daily Prophet with a furrowed brow and Mrs. Weasley was telling Hermione and Ginny about a love potion she'd made as a young girl. All three of them were rather giggly. Read more: www.readingthehpbooks.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=poa13&action=display&thread=567#ixzz1zL3a2BoaFrom Dimcairiens story. No mention of pointing at Arthur. Unless you can direct me to a passage in the books I won't believe it. Was it in the movies? They changed so much in them that it's hard to take them seriously like the books. Sokka and Suki were great together. They remind me of Ron and Hermione except in reverse. Iroh and Tea do go together so well. He was annoyed Zuko for insulting it at one point. Toph is a big question mark. Leia and Han do go together. I was referring to the Expanded Universe where my favorite ships are Luke and Mara and Anakin Solo and Tahiri. List some. It won't bore me. I might not know some of them but it'll give me stuff to look into |
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Post by AllyJackson on Jun 30, 2012 22:46:24 GMT -5
Also, he didn't try? So getting to be prefect doesn't count then? (And don't you dare bring up Dumbledore. Just because he thought it'd be too much for Harry, doesn't mean he couldn't have picked someone else) Becoming an AUROR doesn't count? sherza, when you have an inferiority complex (yes I'm bringing it up, so sue me) you don't notice all the cool things you've done, just all the cool things everyone else has done and all the cool things you've yet to do.
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Post by AllyJackson on Jun 30, 2012 22:50:06 GMT -5
Mrs. Weasley was telling Hermione and Ginny about a love potion she'd made as a young girl. All three of them were rather giggly. Doesn't mention her ever using it, does it, sherza? Oh, mostly little things. I like a lot of the stuff in SWTOR, (mostly that I come up with out of nowhere ) especially the forbidden romances between Jedi and such. Other random things in random books, mostly. |
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Post by ykickamoocow on Jun 30, 2012 22:51:39 GMT -5
For all we know Ginny could have joked that she wonders how Harry would act if she used the potion on him.
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Post by AllyJackson on Jun 30, 2012 22:53:21 GMT -5
Exactly. And don't you think if Molly were telling them that she and Arthur were married through love potion, that Ginny and Hermione (especially Ginny) would be freaking out, not giggling?
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Post by readingwizard4 on Jun 30, 2012 22:53:22 GMT -5
With the inferiority complex the world didn't know his story so the world didn't give him the credit he rightfully deserved. He didn't have the private talks with Dumbledore like Harry did who told him well done and all that blah blah blah. The forbidden Jedi romance is great alright lol.
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Post by MySecretSecondChance on Jun 30, 2012 22:53:48 GMT -5
Sokka and Suki were great together. They remind me of Ron and Hermione except in reverse. Iroh and Tea do go together so well. He was annoyed Zuko for insulting it at one point. Toph is a big question mark. Leia and Han do go together. I was referring to the Expanded Universe where my favorite ships are Luke and Mara and Anakin Solo and Tahiri. List some. It won't bore me. I might not know some of them but it'll give me stuff to look into huh I always thought Toph and Haru would make a good coulple don't know why though |
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Post by AllyJackson on Jun 30, 2012 22:53:59 GMT -5
If my mum admitted her marriage was through something similar, I'd be devastated (being the eldest), not giggly.
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Post by AllyJackson on Jun 30, 2012 22:55:24 GMT -5
Sokka and Suki were great together. They remind me of Ron and Hermione except in reverse. Iroh and Tea do go together so well. He was annoyed Zuko for insulting it at one point. Toph is a big question mark. Leia and Han do go together. I was referring to the Expanded Universe where my favorite ships are Luke and Mara and Anakin Solo and Tahiri. List some. It won't bore me. I might not know some of them but it'll give me stuff to look into huh I always thought Toph and Haru would make a good coulple don't know why though I don't know. I always sort of saw Toph getting with Teo. I've absolutely NO idea why. Maybe The Duke? |
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Post by readingwizard4 on Jun 30, 2012 22:55:37 GMT -5
Exactly. And don't you think if Molly were telling them that she and Arthur were married through love potion, that Ginny and Hermione (especially Ginny) would be freaking out, not giggling? I think Ginny would be horrified. Who wouldn't be horrified if they learned that their parents marriage was a sham. I would be so freaked out right about then |
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Post by MySecretSecondChance on Jun 30, 2012 22:56:08 GMT -5
If my mum admitted her marriage was through something similar, I'd be devastated (being the eldest), not giggly. In my case with me being the eldest it would probley make alot of sence. |
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Post by AllyJackson on Jun 30, 2012 22:56:37 GMT -5
. . . meaning?
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Post by sherza on Jun 30, 2012 23:00:06 GMT -5
Also, he didn't try? So getting to be prefect doesn't count then? (And don't you dare bring up Dumbledore. Just because he thought it'd be too much for Harry, doesn't mean he couldn't have picked someone else) Becoming an AUROR doesn't count? sherza, when you have an inferiority complex (yes I'm bringing it up, so sue me) you don't notice all the cool things you've done, just all the cool things everyone else has done and all the cool things you've yet to do. Thing is ... he didn't TRY to become a prefect. He got the job because of Dumbledore thinking Harry didn't need the extra stress (which I actually agree with, ironically enough). He wasn't actively trying to do whatever was required to be considered for the post prior to that point. He may have qualified for it, yes, but he wasn't actively trying for it. And once he got it ... he's mostly shown not *doing the job*. Yeah, he has to deal with the twins, and I don't blame him for losing sleep at the thought of that, but he could have tried. And again with the Auror thing ... without confirmation that he got his NEWTS, it makes it sound more or less like he fell into the job. Like I said, with his back to a wall, he can accomplish a lot, and I'll say this much for being an Auror ... you're going to end up with your back to a wall fairly frequently, so he'dve done well enough in the action portions of the job ... but can you *honestly* see Ron 'Hermione, do my homework for me' Weasley doing the paperwork that comes with the job in a timely manner? Or would he foist it off on someone else? (For the record, I don't see HARRY doing the paperwork any kind of well either.) |
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Post by ykickamoocow on Jun 30, 2012 23:00:20 GMT -5
With the inferiority complex the world didn't know his story so the world didn't give him the credit he rightfully deserved. He didn't have the private talks with Dumbledore like Harry did who told him well done and all that blah blah blah. The forbidden Jedi romance is great alright lol. Don't forget that his own mother spent a lot more time complimenting Harry than giving him (Ron) any praise. |
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Post by MySecretSecondChance on Jun 30, 2012 23:03:21 GMT -5
Parents have Hated each other since i was two yet they had 4 more children togther and now 7 years after they split every time they have to see each other when exchanging the youngest 2 my mother tries to put curses on my dad.
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Post by AllyJackson on Jun 30, 2012 23:03:58 GMT -5
They quite obviously would have matured. No one really likes doing paperwork (except for Percy), but they wouldn't shove it onto someone else. And Ron couldn't have gotten to be an Auror without taking his NEWTs, so don't even. And also, so Ron didn't try to be a prefect, yet still was? That seems to make it better? To already have the qualities needed without having to strive for prefection, how does that make Ron seem bad? Many of your comments are turning out to be contridictory, sherza.
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Post by AllyJackson on Jun 30, 2012 23:05:25 GMT -5
Parents have Hated each other since i was two yet they had 4 more children togther and now 7 years after they split every time they have to see each other when exchanging the youngest 2 my mother tries to put curses on my dad. Oh, that sucks. I'm sorry. Wish I could do more than offer my condolences.  |
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Post by ykickamoocow on Jun 30, 2012 23:07:11 GMT -5
As for professions here is what JKR has said ----------------------------- Chelsea, 19; At the end you say that, or you tell us that Neville is a Professor at Hogwarts. What do Harry, Hermione and Ron do for a living? JKR: Yeh, I think that's what everyone wants to do. Harry and Ron utterly revolutionize the Auror Department. They are now the experts. It doesn't matter how old they are or what else they've done. And Hermione, Well I think that she's now pretty high up in the Department for Magical Law Enforcement. I would imagine that her brainpower and her knowledge of how the Dark Arts operate would really give her a sound grounding. They made a new world. --------------------------------- www.accio-quote.org/articles/2007/0726-today-vieira1.html--------------------------------- JKR: Harry and Ron didn't go back, Hermione did. Did you bet right? You must've, I mean, come on. No one's gonna think Hermione wouldn't go back. SU: I predicted, yeah. JKR: Of course she'd go back. She has to get her N.E.W.T.s. Ron was really done with schooling. It would be kind of tempting to go back just to mess around for a year and have a break, but he goes into the Auror department. He's needed. Anyone. Anyone who was in that battle on the right side, Kingsley would want them to help clean up the-- I mean, anyone who's old enough to do it, who's over-age. But Kingsley would've wanted Ron, Neville, Harry and they would've all gone, and they would've all done the job. And I think that that would've been a good thing for them, too. Because to go through that battle and then be religated to the sidelines, I think they would've felt a need to keep going and finish the job. So that would've been rounding up, really, the corrupt people who were doing a Lucius Malfoy and trying to pretend that they weren't really involved. ----------------------------------- www.accio-quote.org/articles/2007/1217-pottercast-anelli.htmland here is what a fan said that JKR told her when she was at a reading a few years ago -------------------------------- My 13 year old daughter had the opportunity of a lifetime this past Tuesday. She attended a reading and Q&A with JK Rowling at the historic Wintergarden Theatre in Toronto, 3rd row seats no less!! She cried when Ms. Rowling came on stage and was thrilled to the high heavens when she said she liked Faith's hair. The questions were pre picked so she didn't get to ask whatever became of Dudley. Ms. Rowling talked about the birth of the idea of Quiddich and how she wanted it to reflect women's ability to multi task, the seed of the idea came after a 'run in' with an old boyfriend. She also said that she knew the ending of the book when she started. She told the audience that after Ron became an Auror he moonlighted in George's joke shop because 'Ron needed the money and George needed the companionship. I've also included a picture of my 16 year old Marley dressed up as Bellatrix Lestrange on the eve of the release of 'The Deathly Hallows'. -------------------------------------- cathe.com/forum/f97/faith-meets-jk-rowling-226935/ |
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Post by sherza on Jun 30, 2012 23:23:02 GMT -5
They quite obviously would have matured. No one really likes doing paperwork (except for Percy), but they wouldn't shove it onto someone else. And Ron couldn't have gotten to be an Auror without taking his NEWTs, so don't even. And also, so Ron didn't try to be a prefect, yet still was? That seems to make it better? To already have the qualities needed without having to strive for prefection, how does that make Ron seem bad? Many of your comments are turning out to be contridictory, sherza. My point is that he is inherently lazy, and despite *wanting* to be Head Boy/Quidditch Captain/etc, he never set out with the mental purpose to attain those goals. He eventually got the prefectship (and his qualifications for being prefect are somewhat suspect, given how he acted as prefect) but it had more to do with interference from Dumbles and being 'second choice' than it did with Ron actively trying to excel and getting the job on his own merits. |
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The problem with Toph is that no one is cool enough to be with her, which makes the speculation about Lin all the more fun. I adore Star Wars but never really cared much for shipping as long as Solo and Leia got together. And I love many other pairings, but far to many to least here. I'd bore you. 
